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Title: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Rupert of hentzau on 11 June 2017, 07:13:40 AM
Hi folks,

Just finalising my first order for some LOA figures.
( Thought I may take advantage of your shrivelling Pound post Election).

If I use a 50mm base, can I get
: 6 Infantry across? More?
: 5 Cavalry?

Trying to maximise the packs, but I feel the more figures per unit the better.

Cheers
Bryan
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 June 2017, 07:37:49 AM
Lol! 💷

I can fit 5 infantry and 5 cavalry across a 40mm base
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Raider4 on 11 June 2017, 07:58:27 AM
I have some Spartan Hoplites 6-wide on a 40mm base, but those are very narrow figures. I was almost tempted to go three ranks (6/5/6) for these on a 40x20, to get that really dense look, but (wisely, I think)) decided on just the standard two.


Tend to stick to 5-wide for infantry, 4 for cavalry (on a standard 40mm base). Skirmish/loose order troops are much more widely spaced.

Cheers, Martyn
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Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Leman on 11 June 2017, 08:03:12 AM
Closest period to that which I have is SYW. For infantry I have two ranks of four on a 25mm square base.
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: fred. on 11 June 2017, 08:34:54 AM
For my LoA, on 40mm wide bases. I normally have 4 infantry, occasionally 5 wide, it depends quite a bit on pose, the shooting figures are very narrow, as they are side on. But a lot of the standing ones are in a much wider pose.

Cavalry I have only gone 3 wide, but I have 2 ranks in a W formation, so I think you could get 4 across if you wanted them in very close order. To a degree it depends on what look you want to go for. I often put some double sided tape on a base and have a play around to see what looks good for a given set of figures.
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Westmarcher on 11 June 2017, 01:02:47 PM
Like Leman, my SYW figures are based on 1 inch square bases in 2 ranks, 4 in each rank (therefore, 8 to a base). Not only am I very happy with the close order look, the same square base size also allows me to base 3 horse figures.  See examples in this link:

http://honoursofwar.com/thread/362/close-run-thing-spittelwitz (http://honoursofwar.com/thread/362/close-run-thing-spittelwitz)

However, as fred points out, pose is a big factor and, looking at the LoA figures in the catalogue, you might need slightly larger bases. Jim Duncan had a similar dilemma in February. Jim was exploring different ways to base his WSS figs which may be helpful to you. In his blog, see his February 2017 post, The Portable Wargame - First Quandary, here:

http://jim-duncan.blogspot.co.uk (http://jim-duncan.blogspot.co.uk)

Probably the best thing to do is experiment yourself and decide not only what is best for you but also in a way that will give you the greatest flexibility for use with numerous rules sets. Good luck!  :)

 
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Leman on 11 June 2017, 01:03:46 PM
TBH I took my lead from the Old Glory 10mm Prussian musketeers which I bought. They come as a five figure casting, 25mm wide. This gives a superb look for linear warfare. Unfortunately I had already based up some Austrian fusiliers as only three figures to a 25mm frontage, and I don't think they look nearly as good. This is why I changed to four figures when using Pendraken figures.

Pendraken four figure frontage:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20SYW/IMG_1715_zps50byyy5n.jpg)



Old Glory five figure frontage;

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20SYW/IMG_1341_zps077f3d2d.jpg)


Two three figure frontage Austrian units:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Honours%20of%20War/Combat%20of%20Saint%20Ulrich/IMG_1679_zpsx6axmm2v.jpg)


One day I will rebase the three figure units as I add battalion guns.
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Westmarcher on 11 June 2017, 01:06:30 PM
If I had known you were going to post these pics one minute after my post, Andy, I wouldn't have bothered posting the link for mine. D'oh! ;D
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Leman on 11 June 2017, 01:19:22 PM
The more the merrier I always say. Whilst I was faffing about moving photos from the Bucket to the Forum you must have posted. I just sent the blighters on the way without checking.
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: d_Guy on 11 June 2017, 01:35:49 PM
Rupert,
I use 1" x 1" bases for LoA so roughly 25mm front - 6 foot (3 front, 3 rear). So 6 figures per 50mm front works fairly easily. I only do 2 horse per base but "boot-to-boot" could probably get 3 per stand.

(https://inredcoatragsattired.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/monmouths-army-view-2.jpg?w=800)
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Aksu on 11 June 2017, 03:50:14 PM
I use eight on a 30x30 mm base, four wide.
(http://www.the-ancients.com/gemigabok/gemilog/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/img_0767.jpg)
Cheers,
Aksu
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Steve J on 11 June 2017, 04:55:05 PM
For a similar period I have gone 8 infantry per base in two ranks and three horses for medium to heavy cavalry, with two horses to denote light cavalry. Hope this helps?
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Rupert of hentzau on 12 June 2017, 12:17:34 AM
Very inspiring set of posts there, I suspect the answer is to order more figures than I think I need, and then play around with the placement of the figures. Really looking forward to having a crack at these. Cheers
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 June 2017, 06:50:37 AM
Did we mention the 'rule of cool'?
Go with what looks good!
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: SV52 on 12 June 2017, 09:16:57 AM
How big are the armies?  How many figures do you see yourself painting?  My 10mm armies are <> 180 figures per side working on number of battalions/regiments rather than figures per base; so as a solo gamer <> 400 odd per project is plenty for me.
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: fred. on 12 June 2017, 11:20:54 AM
Quote from: SV52 on 12 June 2017, 09:16:57 AM
How big are the armies?  How many figures do you see yourself painting?  My 10mm armies are <> 180 figures per side working on number of battalions/regiments rather than figures per base; so as a solo gamer <> 400 odd per project is plenty for me.

This is a very good point - its worth thinking about what you need to get painted to get a playable game. If you have to paint too many figures then a project can easily stall. Once you start playing its much easier to add an extra unit (or two, or ten!)
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: SV52 on 12 June 2017, 11:24:54 AM
Quote from: fred. on 12 June 2017, 11:20:54 AM
This is a very good point - its worth thinking about what you need to get painted to get a playable game. If you have to paint too many figures then a project can easily stall. Once you start playing its much easier to add an extra unit (or two, or ten!)

Dead on fred, that's basically how I like to work.
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: SV52 on 12 June 2017, 11:40:00 AM
To illustrate:

Flodden Scots <>184 figures:

(http://i.imgur.com/FIQoRH9.jpg)

Flodden English <> 137 figures:

(http://i.imgur.com/oawcytE.jpg)
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: grahambeyrout on 12 June 2017, 12:45:48 PM
I get a frontage of four 10mm figures  on a 25mm base for close order  marching Napoleonics,  but it can be tight, and different poses can be much more difficult. As it is I sometimes have to shave the bases a bit. Some other close order  troops are three to a 20mm frontage, and that is fairly comfortable. For ACW I went for three figures on a 25mm frontage and that works too. It is also more economical with fgures
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Leman on 12 June 2017, 12:49:14 PM
One of my regular opponents and I work on the same principle. Amass enough to give a playable game, and as we become familiar with the rules we expand our armies. I am currently using this technique to get a playable tabletop game of To The Last Gaiter Button to see how the battle rules work. A division a side to start with, plus some attached cavalry.
Title: Re: How many can I squeeze on a base?
Post by: Subedai on 12 June 2017, 07:25:38 PM
All my 10mm chaps are on three 60 x 40 bases per unit with the number denoting the type, so HC woulkd be in 5's on a base, while LC would be 3 or maybe 4. HI are two rows of 5 or 6, LI normally 8 or 9.

MickS