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Pendraken Rules! => Blitzkrieg Commander IV => BKC-III => Topic started by: Dr Dave on 10 May 2017, 01:09:49 PM

Title: Odd AT arcs and lumbering
Post by: Dr Dave on 10 May 2017, 01:09:49 PM
Full arc: Russian & German 37 mm AT guns?
Restricted arc: British 2 pdr (despite being a 360 degree mount)

restricted arc: Russian 45mm AT gun?

Also, can any "lumbering" AT gun have a full arc? it's feels a bit contradictory.

Isn't it easier to bin lumbering all together and say that arty over 40mm can only move once (if at all) and give those a restricted arc with a few obvious exceptions?

Title: Re: Odd AT arcs and lumbering
Post by: petercooman on 10 May 2017, 01:11:44 PM
Yes please scrap that lumbering rubbish  :)

Maybe just rule as 'can't pack up and setup in the same turn'
Title: Re: Odd AT arcs and lumbering
Post by: barbarian on 10 May 2017, 01:47:10 PM
Even this is really un-necessary : Three orders to achieve it, not really a common occurence.
Title: Re: Odd AT arcs and lumbering
Post by: Orcs on 10 May 2017, 01:56:04 PM
Quote from: Dr Dave on 10 May 2017, 01:09:49 PM
Full arc: Russian & German 37 mm AT guns?
Restricted arc: British 2 pdr (despite being a 360 degree mount)

restricted arc: Russian 45mm AT gun?

Also, can any "lumbering" AT gun have a full arc? it's feels a bit contradictory.

Isn't it easier to bin lumbering all together and say that arty over 40mm can only move once (if at all) and give those a restricted arc with a few obvious exceptions?

Full  arc for a German 37 and then restricted for Russian 45 is really daft. They were essentially the same gun.   
Title: Re: Odd AT arcs and lumbering
Post by: Ithoriel on 10 May 2017, 02:55:47 PM
Rather than a blanket "no second move" or "Lumbering" I'd sooner see something like -1 CV for each previous move action. Seems more in keeping with the Warmaster approach - YMMV :)

I think the BKCII - /5 /10 cm move differentiated between the mobility of various guns pretty well.

Finally, although the German 37mm inspired the Soviet 45mm gun the Russian version was almost twice as heavy, IIRC.