Hi guys I just recently got myself a dragonmen army and I am still loving playing warband but I cant seem to find a good colour scheme that I feel would look good can anyone help me with any ideas for inspiration ?
Also can anyone point me in the direction of some good terrain for 10mm scale buildings anything like that looking for more fantasy style?
When basing warband I was curious do you guys like to use the standard base size of 100x50mm or I have seen a lot of people use 60x30mm?
- Louis :)
Hi Louis.
There are probably oddles of possibilities.
Blue & Yellow ?
Red & Yellow ?.....(That's certainly the colour I saw the shields, when I was making the wee chaps...Now I'm not so convinced !)
Purple & Yellow ?
Red & Green ?
Blue & White ?
Not sure if anyone's painted an army yet, for you to have a look at, which might give you some inspiration.
Cheers - Phil.
My idea: match it to you dragon.
Pick an idea of what flavour dragon your kings is ruled by, match to that.
Mine are blue/white and grey/green
Hi Louis,
given my High Elves are done in a rather non-standard red, white and black colour scheme, inspired by the Ii samurai clan, I'm not sure you'd want advice from me as to colour choices. :)
I would, however, advocate having a good look in local charity shops, if you have any, for suitable buildings. I've picked up quite a selection David Winter and Lilliput Lane buildings (and clones thereof) for pennies to single digits of pounds.
Didn't someone suggest aquarium bits for just this purpose a while ago?
Dragons are all either a) red or b) green.
Anything else is just unrealistic.
Colour scheme? Anything goes. however, each army is a servant of a "dragon king", so generally pick the colour of the dragon you like and use that as a theme throughout.
Red
Green
Black
White
Blue
I would suggest these as "main" colour schemes, but really anything goes; and there are "metallic dragons" too...
Can't wait to see the results of your army choice and glad you're enjoying Warband! The Dragon Men can be a very competative and fun army to field.
Escenografia Epsilon on the main Pendraken website, have three sets of ready painted medieval fantasy buildings.
Louis, I am not familiar with the rules so this may not be a help. But if you are talking about dragon figures then I suggest you do a Google search for dinosaurs. I did that for painting my Red Skull Army Terror Bird and Dino-Panzers.
As for buildings, have you considered using a smaller scale, like 6 MM. I use that scale with my 155 MM armies because they fit nicely, and allow me to do more of a diorama. You maybe want to look at Irregular, as they make quite a few buildings and such in 10 MM. Just look under the "scenics and accessories" section. Here's their link
http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/
Terry
Quote from: Terry37 on 18 April 2017, 04:31:24 PM
As for buildings, have you considered using a smaller scale, like 6 MM.
Terry
Ugh! Wendy houses! ;)
Quote from: Terry37 on 18 April 2017, 04:31:24 PM
I use that scale with my 155 MM armies because they fit nicely, and allow me to do more of a diorama. You maybe want to look at Irregular, as they make quite a few buildings and such in 10 MM
155mm, blimey! That's huge!
Try Supreme Littleness too. http://www.supremelittleness.co.uk
Here's some nice dragon colours...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/01/12/63/011263a94baabe7f1eebd521ea331ad5.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a0/27/29/a02729a343619e91a052a0f9075332e4.jpg)
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/1/12/Fire_breathing_dragon_by_sandara-d56vmyu.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150612012606)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/dd/5e/9a/dd5e9ae2663631a905636ea2df01234a.jpg)
(http://sites.psu.edu/mythologicalcreatures/wp-content/uploads/sites/22242/2015/03/dragon.jpg)
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--7NL8go81--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/hhnufqy72giwneyy0rm0.jpg)
That metallic black / green combo could look really good, maybe a little dark though.
How can there be a correct way of painting fantasy figures?
Dragons are red, green, or white. Ask any mah jong player.
Well, the Welsh, who know everything about anything before 1066, know about dragons. There's a Welsh word for it - ddraig, pronounced - probably. (This is another example of when being confronted by a double-d can make a man tongue tied.)
King Arthur was Welsh, and he was the product of two dragons "fighting" (which may say something about Welsh courtship) and that Merlin kept one as a pet, though it was a bad tempered beast and tried to eat Merlin's pug, which was confusingly called Arthur.
St Patrick was Welsh, and he threw all the dragons out of Ireland, as well as all the otters, but that was a mistake and the otters had to be reintroduced by the lesser known St Meghan, who is the patron saint of tidying up other people's messes.
Beowulf was from the valleys, and slew many dragons - but they were only English dragons, so nobody minded much. On his death bed Beowulf said "42 dragons I killed, see, and all they go on about is bloomin' Grendel, and he not so much a monster as Dewi the Blacksmith who kept eating the wrong mushrooms."
Atilla the Hun originally hailed from Pontyprydd, and was a beekeeper. In Pontyprydd, his full and proper name was Atillla the Honey Maker, and he only took up the whole warlording bit after a rather bitter disagreement with a dragon who objected to the proximity of bees to his lair. Turns out the dragon, whose name was Terry, later died of anaphylaxis after being stung by a homeless bee.
Anyway, the Welsh, who know all about dragons, say they're red. They even have a red one on their flag.
Welsh dd is pronounced the same as English th as in 'the', never as in 'both'.
Woah! Flashback to Welsh lessons in the late 1970's!
Groups of children pronouncing "rh", "ch", "ll" repeatedly.
Quote from: Leman on 19 April 2017, 06:31:47 AM
How can there be a correct way of painting fantasy figures?
I think, in some cases, if the fantasy is based on a specific canon and the colors and equipment are described in that canon, that would be as official as say the 1768 Clothing Warrent.
Quote from: Leman on 19 April 2017, 06:31:47 AM
How can there be a correct way of painting fantasy figures?
HERETIC ! Stone him. My Orcs and Goblins are Historically correct as per the His most renowned personage JRR Tolkien.
Seriously, I think the fact their is no correct colour scheme to follow it throws those of us used to looking up a uniform guide
Quote from: Ithoriel on 18 April 2017, 05:00:11 PM
Ugh! Wendy houses! ;)
You need to get that needle looked at, it seems to have been stuck at this point for ever!
Mollinary
I always wanted a Wendy house when I was a boy - to defend or storm when playing soldiers or cowboys and Indians.
Mad Lemmey,
Opps, err, I meant 15 MM. My figure Talos in my Greek myth army is not even 155 MM high!
Glad you all were able to enjoy my excellent typing skills, and my even better proofreading skills!
Gentlemen, pray tell, what is a "Wendy House"?
Terry
Quote from: Terry37 on 19 April 2017, 09:39:05 PM
Gentlemen, pray tell, what is a "Wendy House"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_house (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_house)
"Wendy House" is a term used by Ithoriel to describe miniature buildings one scale lower than the miniature figures (e.g., 10mm scale figures with 6mm scale buildings). :-B
Damn, you beat me to it!
Quote from: Leman on 19 April 2017, 08:25:46 AM
Welsh dd is pronounced the same as English th as in 'the', never as in 'both'.
Absolutely, although draig is spelt with d rather than dd and is kind of pronounced dryg (as in the lack of humidity with the g from dug tacked on the back!)
However, it commonly mutates to dd under a multitude of grammatical circumstances, eg Y Ddraig Goch - the Red Dragon.
More rarely it can mutate to n, eg fy nraid - my dragon.
:-B ;)
As to the original question!
Quote from: gizmok24 on 18 April 2017, 08:07:48 AM
Hi guys I just recently got myself a dragonmen army and I am still loving playing warband but I cant seem to find a good colour scheme that I feel would look good can anyone help me with any ideas for inspiration ?
Either get a book of heraldry and flick through that for a combination that takes your fancy or pick the colours of your favourite - or a particularly eye-catching - sporting team. The one advantage of the sporting option is that it might give you a combination that you won't find in any real-world heraldic scheme :o :-t ;)
Cheers!
Meirion
I remain bemused by people's apparent ability to see 24 figures as a battalion while being completely foxed by the notion that one house is therefore and entire village or even town.
A common suggestion is that players therefore use houses a scale or two smaller. Which looks to me like adults fighting among children's playhouses!
Of course, if people find that aesthetically more pleasing I don't really have any objection too it, despite my occasional asnides!
It doesn't appeal to me but, as with all these things, Your Mileage May Vary.
Ithoriel,
Yes it may seem so. In defense, HOTT/DBA-HX and DBN (the three rules sets I play) have limited size bases allowed, for terrain, figures/elements, etc. And they all have to fit on a 2' x 2' board. So to comply with the rules and still be able do some creative modeling I use a scale down for camps, strongholds, fortresses, BUAs, etc. The scale is not all that obvious on the table top. If I used a scale building, it would not fit on the allotted size base, so I find 6 MM works just fine.
As an example, here is a recent game with my US Hollywood Army Facing Red Skull's Army with a 6 MM bunker as red Skull's Stronghold on he far table edge.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/IMG_1936_zpsrma1e5bb.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/IMG_1936_zpsrma1e5bb.jpg.html)
Another picture and the bunker doesn't look too out of scale.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/IMG_1933_zpswskygs4q.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/IMG_1933_zpswskygs4q.jpg.html)
This is my US Hollywood Army Stronghold with 6 MM models on an acceptable 60 x 80 MM base. If I were to use 15 MM scale, then I might be able to fit one pup tent on the base, and that would look pretty lame in my book.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Weird%20World%20War/US%20Hollywood%20Stronghold_zpspywwmphs.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Weird%20World%20War/US%20Hollywood%20Stronghold_zpspywwmphs.jpg.html)
So it is more of a rules requirement decision rather than an atheistic one.
Terry
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 19 April 2017, 10:42:18 PM
Absolutely, although draig is spelt with d rather than dd and is kind of pronounced dryg (as in the lack of humidity with the g from dug tacked on the back!)
However, it commonly mutates to dd under a multitude of grammatical circumstances, eg Y Ddraig Goch - the Red Dragon.
More rarely it can mutate to n, eg fy nraid - my dragon.
Aarrrghhh! Welsh mutations! (I mean in the language, not like Techno's extra toe.) They were the bane of my life! My family comes from Scotland, but pappa was in the RAF, and we were posted to Hawarden on the Weslh border. If you were good at cricket in my school, you could hit the ball into England, but we as RAF brats, still had to learn Welsh. You can imagine the dedication of kids who next week would be relocated to Cyprus, to learning the Welsh language!
*curls up in a ball and rocks gently*
Quote from: fsn on 20 April 2017, 06:55:52 AM
Aarrrghhh! Welsh mutations! (I mean in the language, not like Techno's extra toe.) They were the bane of my life! My family comes from Scotland, but pappa was in the RAF, and we were posted to Hawarden on the Weslh border. If you were good at cricket in my school, you could hit the ball into England, but we as RAF brats, still had to learn Welsh. You can imagine the dedication of kids who next week would be relocated to Cyprus, to learning the Welsh language!
*curls up in a ball and rocks gently*
There, there >:<
You have my sympathy - I know that having lived outside Wales for over quarter of a century that it takes me a while to get my tongue back up to speed. You really do need one of the Welsh accents to make some of the sound combinations comfortable to pronounce...