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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Firelocks to Maxims (1680 - 1900) => Topic started by: Kato on 28 March 2017, 12:35:22 PM

Title: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Kato on 28 March 2017, 12:35:22 PM
Hello all,

Long time listener ...first time caller.  I look to the educated masses ... I am looking to build up a British Napoleonic Marine Battalion in 10mm ... Anyone know which Pendraken range would fit?  I know that all the pics I have seen show the Marines with a top hat looking hat.  Ideas?  I was thinking either the round hat AWI Brits ... or even the Grens from the same line with those small caps ... but i cant see real clear

thoughts?

thanks!
Kato
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 March 2017, 01:00:12 PM
Moaning
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Techno on 28 March 2017, 01:46:11 PM
Can't personally help, Kato....But welcome to the forum.

I'm sure someone will be along soon to give you the info you're after.

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 March 2017, 01:47:59 PM
There are communalism in the 1870 range with toppers?

Hello and welcome
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Terry37 on 28 March 2017, 04:20:13 PM
It would depend on hat time/year you are wanting to represent them in. Early in the Wars of the French Revolution and early Napoleonic period they are a bicorn hat, and at some time before Trafalgar they switched to the top hat.  The coat style also changed with that of the army.
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Kato on 28 March 2017, 05:51:31 PM
Quote from: Terry37 on 28 March 2017, 04:20:13 PM
It would depend on hat time/year you are wanting to represent them in. Early in the Wars of the French Revolution and early Napoleonic period they are a bicorn hat, and at some time before Trafalgar they switched to the top hat.  The coat style also changed with that of the army.

I guess I am looking for when they had the top hat ... the later periods.  Anyone have any suggestions?  Thanks!
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 28 March 2017, 11:12:19 PM
Hello Kato

Quote from: Kato on 28 March 2017, 05:51:31 PM
I guess I am looking for when they had the top hat ... the later periods.  Anyone have any suggestions?  Thanks!

The only Pendraken ones I can think of as anywhere close would be British AWI in round hats and that's stretching the friendship, with slouch hats replacing top hats  :-

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/AWB34.JPG)(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/AWB19.jpg)

Capitan Games did have a range of figures but they seem to have regressed into a kickstarter  :-/. An American company makes bespoke British Marines, but other wise not much joy I'm afraid.

Edit:- The American company that makes 'laser dreams work' seems to have the ships and some of the crew that Capitan was selling.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: d_Guy on 29 March 2017, 05:10:00 AM
Welcome Kato!
This is a long shot. I think Russian light infantry wore a topper and plume in the early 1800's, leastwise I have some 20mm 1805 Russians so adorned.I don't know the Pendraken Napoleonic ranges and looks like they are mainly Borodino period. Maybe this rings a bell for someone else?
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: quasar42 on 29 March 2017, 11:47:54 AM
Hi, the Nap Austrian Landwehr and Jäger are in top hat. Not sure if the uniform works. Perhaps with some creative painting or some head swapping

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/NPA10-p6260/#img

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/NPA9-p6259/#img

Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Westmarcher on 29 March 2017, 03:16:26 PM
I've got it in my head that I read somewhere that both British and French drafted in Line units as "marines" in addition to their specific Marine regiments and, if you accept that as an alternative, Pendraken will be able to provide the necessary figures. For uniform details, no doubt some research will reveal which units got their sea legs.

However, if you wish to have specifically sculpted Royal Marines, perhaps further enquiry using the following link may help? (see video) -

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/studiocapitan/post-captain-10mm-tactical-naval-rules-plus-ships?ref=user_menu (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/studiocapitan/post-captain-10mm-tactical-naval-rules-plus-ships?ref=user_menu) 
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 March 2017, 03:53:56 PM
My great-great-great grandad was on a mortar barge at Copenhagen, he was Royal Artillery.
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Bernie on 29 March 2017, 07:15:41 PM
http://studiocapitan.com/post-captain-10mm-miniatures-gallery/

Try the Full Captain 10mm figures - Do British Marines, French, Spanish and sailors and some guns. See them round the shows like Caliver doing display games of their nice ships.

Nice company - very friendly
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Westmarcher on 29 March 2017, 07:51:54 PM
Well done, Bernie! Good link. These are the same miniatures shown 2 mins 7 seven seconds in on the Kickstarter video from the link in my post.  :-bd

[lemmey - sounds interesting. Any more details?]
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 March 2017, 09:43:55 PM
Yup, he had 'Waterloo' on his pension! 3rd RA, invalided out with arthritis in 1819, went on to run a pub!
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: fsn on 30 March 2017, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 29 March 2017, 03:53:56 PM
My great-great-great grandad was on a mortar barge at Copenhagen, he was Royal Artillery.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 29 March 2017, 09:43:55 PM
Yup, he had 'Waterloo' on his pension! 3rd RA, invalided out with arthritis in 1819, went on to run a pub!

OK, so assume he was pensioned out at 50, had kids at 25. Then his kids all had their kids at 25, that means Lemmey was born in 1894.
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 March 2017, 12:18:56 PM
https://www.tenor.co/view/legobatman-legobatmanmovie-agedphenomenally-gif-7647332
Title: Re: 10mm Napoleonic British Marines
Post by: profjohn on 01 April 2017, 11:52:02 AM
Round about 1982 a man was pointed out to me whose grandfather had fought at Waterloo. He looked about 70 so let's say born 1912. If his father was 60 when he was born then that gets us back to 1852. Add another 60 you're back to 1792 and easily possible to have been at Waterloo. Thomas Hardy tells a story of his childhood of knowing someone who had a memory from a grandparent of seeing a man in plate armour on his way to Edge Hill. And a Sri Lankan mate of mine, now alas deceased, had a similar passed down memory of the Dutch fortifying Colombo .