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Title: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 March 2017, 05:27:18 PM
I am sooooooo glad I listened to Phil!
Butting was easy, drilling... erm...
Never took the Dremmel above 2 while drilling out the hands on 48 🧀 Swiss 🧀 pikes before the night failed.  I can see how you injure yourself with that! Wow!  :o
I think about 20 survived okay! ;) Changed to a smaller drill bit helped.   ;D
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 04 March 2017, 06:49:35 PM
Will......Don't worry.

I would say that I'm fairly proficient with a Dremmel.......And I make c*ck ups between 10 & 20 % of the time....trying to do, what I know what you're attempting .

Just takes practice, Matey..

I'm sure they'll be fine.

Cheers - Phil



Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 April 2017, 04:28:16 PM
Last 48 drilled assembled and all undercoated.
Couple of interesting misdrills where the bit has made anatomically correct orifices or Swiss 🧀 🧀 cheese holes!
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 10 April 2017, 04:39:43 PM
Wait until a tiny portion of the bit snaps off, and stays in the model ! X_X

Then you'll say naughty words.  ;)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Leon on 10 April 2017, 10:16:22 PM
Dave broke a bit with his Dremel the other day, which pinged across the unit and hit me while I was emptying the van...
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 April 2017, 11:01:24 PM
Yoiks!
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: paulr on 11 April 2017, 02:02:12 AM
 X_X :o
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Sandinista on 11 April 2017, 05:03:04 AM
Quote from: Leon on 10 April 2017, 10:16:22 PM
Dave broke a bit with his Dremel the other day, which pinged across the unit and hit me while I was emptying the van...

I hope you are all wearing safety goggles at work now, we want no nasty eye injuries

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 September 2017, 04:35:53 PM
And a new set of skills added to my Dremmel usage today.
Cutting disc (I even risked speed 3), and sanding tube-thingy-ma-jig used for the first time on some of Leon's flying base rods!

It were FUN! 8)
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 22 September 2017, 04:59:57 PM
Will.

Please tell me you were using a carborunderumderumderumderum disc and not one of the mini metal circular saws.

I won't ever use those....especially with my penchant for slicing into my own digits.

But.....Dremmels are damn useful, aren't they.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 September 2017, 07:21:17 PM
It was one of the grey discs more like a paper sanding disc but only on the edges, not one of the nastytoothed ones!
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 23 September 2017, 06:53:03 AM
Only on the edges ?
Don't know that type, Will.
I just use the carborundum discs until they either get too small to be of any use...... or snap when I'm careless

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 September 2017, 07:59:26 AM
So most snap, from someone who wont use a Deremel, I slice me when I'm supposed to be slicing onions.

IanS
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 23 September 2017, 09:24:21 AM
Join the club, Ian !!  ;)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Fenton on 28 September 2017, 07:53:51 AM
Bit late to this and I don't know if you have one ML but getting the flexi shaft   that fits into the chuck helped no end with control for me
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 28 September 2017, 09:09:18 AM
I must admit, Steve.....that's one bit of kit that I keep thinking about purchasing.

Keeping my options open.  ;)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Fenton on 28 September 2017, 09:28:20 AM
For us ( the missus uses it more than me) I does make it safer to use
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: fsn on 28 September 2017, 09:30:02 AM
It does give you more control.

Techno: Shall I post you down my one so you can try it out?

Or will that start a new thread?
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Fenton on 28 September 2017, 09:44:53 AM
I think there only about £20. Dave and Leon should buy you be so you don't have as many oh my god there's blood everywhere quick call an ambulance sick days
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 28 September 2017, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: fsn on 28 September 2017, 09:30:02 AM
Techno: Shall I post you down my one so you can try it out?

No, Matey...Very, very kind of you to offer, though :)

I can manage fine with the fat bar steward at the mo'.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: fsn on 28 September 2017, 11:42:47 AM
Well the offer's there.

It may change the way you Dremel forever.   :)

Or it may just add strangulation as a potential hazard.   :(

Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: fsn on 28 September 2017, 11:47:31 AM
Quote from: Techno on 28 September 2017, 09:54:17 AM
I can manage fine with the fat bar steward at the mo'.

The thing about "that's what she said" jokes is that they're a bit addictive. Once you spot one, then they seem to be all around you (TWSS).
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: pierre the shy on 21 August 2018, 10:26:13 PM
I picked up a pseudo dremmel kit including a flexishaft and lots of other attachments in the local mega hardware shop on the weekend for a very reasonable price as l need it for a range of things....including cutting out some 3mm mdf buildings and drilling holes for masts in Askus 1/3000 printed ships.

I asked the guy in store about cutting blades and he showed me a mini circular saw blade "you can do some damage with that"  he said half jokingly  ;)

Dont worry Techno l have ear defenders mask and leather gloves and will cut the mdf outside....not taking chances  :-SS
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: paulr on 22 August 2018, 02:43:22 AM
That's handy to know ;)
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 22 August 2018, 05:26:04 AM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 21 August 2018, 10:26:13 PM
I asked the guy in store about cutting blades and he showed me a mini circular saw blade "you can do some damage with that"  he said half jokingly  ;)

Like I said on page one of this thread.....I just won't use that ! X_X

Had one of those (thankfully) rare moments yesterday...where the drill bit snapped off inside a model.
Had to get the little sod out, which meant routing out a fair bit of the model...So now I'll have repair that part of the figure.
Pants ! >:(

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: pierre the shy on 21 November 2018, 08:29:15 AM
Been using my (fairly) new toy to drill 1mm mast holes in some 1/3000 ships.....much more accurate than using a hand turned one and works a treat...only on speed 1 and being very careful. 
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: fsn on 21 November 2018, 01:10:00 PM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 21 November 2018, 08:29:15 AM
Been using my (fairly) new toy to drill 1mm mast holes in some 1/3000 ships.....

:o You're a braver man that I!
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 21 November 2018, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 21 November 2018, 08:29:15 AM
Been using my (fairly) new toy to drill 1mm mast holes in some 1/3000 ships.....much more accurate than using a hand turned one and works a treat...only on speed 1 and being very careful. 

That's interesting, Peter.

(I tend to use 0.5....0.7mm drill bits when working on the wee stuff.....and If I'm working on bigger models, I might go up to 1mm....and on very rare occasions I'll use a 2mm bit.)

What I've found is that with the really small drill bits is that I have to keep adjusting the Dremmel, (before I start drilling) otherwise I can see a lot of 'wobble'/ vibration at the very end of the bit.
If I didn't have to use the Dremmel to bore into the white metal...which seems to get harder and harder, I'd use a pin vise, because I feel I've got a lot more control with that.

Hope that makes sense.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Zippee on 21 November 2018, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: Techno on 21 November 2018, 01:24:30 PM
That's interesting, Peter.

(I tend to use 0.5....0.7mm drill bits when working on the wee stuff.....and If I'm working on bigger models, I might go up to 1mm....and on very rare occasions I'll use a 2mm bit.)

What I've found is that with the really small drill bits is that I have to keep adjusting the Dremmel, (before I start drilling) otherwise I can see a lot of 'wobble'/ vibration at the very end of the bit.
If I didn't have to use the Dremmel to bore into the white metal...which seems to get harder and harder, I'd use a pin vise, because I feel I've got a lot more control with that.

Hope that makes sense.

Cheers - Phil

it's often worth while making a guide-hole with a pin vice before starting up the dremmel - or use the dremmel with 0 power to get a lodgement
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 21 November 2018, 03:17:15 PM
What I tend to do, Zippee, is make a wee hole, using the tiniest burr I've got (which must be well under !mm)...as a guide....Very much like you advise.

I still find the really small drill bits 'wobble' at their very tip, until I've adjusted the 'chuck grip' on the Dremmel a few times.....THEN it looks 'right'.

But you're definitely on the right lines, there. :)

Good advice !!

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: kipt on 21 November 2018, 05:27:41 PM
I just use a regular pin to make a start hole.  Then either a pin vise with a bit or the Dremel to drill the hole.
Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Techno on 21 November 2018, 06:24:06 PM
That should work fine, 'K'.  :)

(I've just got far too many 'odds & sods' that'll do the job.  ;))

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Dremmel - glad I listened to Techno
Post by: Terry37 on 22 November 2018, 03:35:46 AM
I don't have or use a Dremmel, but use a small modeling hand drill. Even so, and especially since we are talking very small models, I always use a biology pin (a small wooden dowel [probably plastic today as I've hand mine for 40 years now] with a long pin in the end) to make a starter hole. Then I start drilling with a really small bit, then one a little larger and if need be a larger one. Sounds time consuming but avoids ruining the model most of ht time.

Terry