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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Druzhina on 13 February 2017, 05:44:26 AM

Title: Venetians vs Ottomans at the naval Battle of Zonchio (Navarino), 1499
Post by: Druzhina on 13 February 2017, 05:44:26 AM
I have found a large image of Venetians vs Ottomans at the naval Battle of Zonchio (Navarino), 1499 (http://www.warfare.netau.net/15/Naval_Battle_of_Zonchio-1499-lg.htm).
he combatants were a Turkish vessel commanded by Kemal Ali (shown standing on the deck of his ship), and two Venetian vessels commanded by Antonio Loredan and Albano d'Armer. The Turks were victorious; Loredan was killed when his ship was burnt, and Armer was taken as a prisoner to Istanbul, where he was sawn into pieces on the order of Bajazet II. This is possibly the first print of an actual naval battle.

Druzhina
15th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.netau.net/15C.htm)
Title: Re: Venetians vs Ottomans at the naval Battle of Zonchio (Navarino), 1499
Post by: Techno on 13 February 2017, 06:48:21 AM
Some great pics in amongst that lot, D.

Have to come back and have a proper look, a bit later.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Venetians vs Ottomans at the naval Battle of Zonchio (Navarino), 1499
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 February 2017, 08:51:41 AM
Nice finds D, painful way to go!
Title: Re: Venetians vs Ottomans at the naval Battle of Zonchio (Navarino), 1499
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 February 2017, 09:00:07 AM
European sources tend to be reticent about the fate of captured Turks.
Title: Re: Venetians vs Ottomans at the naval Battle of Zonchio (Navarino), 1499
Post by: Leman on 13 February 2017, 11:21:01 AM
Probably because they weren't written by white, middle class Guardian readers who constantly beat themselves up because of their DNA, social and economic success. They still haven't grasped that to make omelettes eggs get smashed.
Title: Re: Venetians vs Ottomans at the naval Battle of Zonchio (Navarino), 1499
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 February 2017, 11:25:22 AM
A metaphor that appeals mainly to those who don't anticipate that they and theirs might be in the frying pan one day.  ;D