Right men, I need a few images concerning US ww2/ post war kit, and you are all so much better than me in posting this stuff.
1. The standard ammo belt (10 pouches ) for Garand M1 - with light order, water bottle and bayonet and small first aid pouch
2. The M3 Grease gun pouch x 3 mags on web belt- the common belt load seems to be one such pouch.
3. The M1 Carbine 3 x30 round magazine pouches on old WW2 style belt - Note - not the later "pocket pouch" that held 4 mags introduced in the 1960s.
4. The .45 Colt 1911 holster circa 1950, issued in leather and hung below the belt -
If you can source imagery that shows the 360 view (front and back) of these belt & pouches it would be much appreciated by Phil and me! :)
Also good clear pics of the M43 field jacket.
Thank you. And when you see the sculpts you can say "I was there the night Sunray posted his request - and I answered the Pendraken call"
James
Would this help?
http://www.germanmilitaria.com/OtherNations/USAFieldgear.html
Ps: if you click on the pics you sometimes get a rear view too.
'Basic Rifleman webgear
This is the complete set up for a rifleman for most of the war
M1923 Cartridge Belt, M36 suspenders , M1910 canteen cover and canteen , First Aid pouch , bayonet and wire cutters'
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff22/Adler69_photo/100_1546.jpg)
'Webgear for an infantryman armed with either an M3 grease gun or Thompson submachinegun
(the repro 3 cell mag pouch is wrong for the ETO , should be a 5 cell mag pouch)'
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff22/Adler69_photo/100_1545.jpg)
No luck on the carbine pouch though
Is this the 30 round mag for the M1 Carbine that you're looking for?
http://www.stewartsmilitaryantiques.com/us-korean-war-m1-carbine-30-round-magazine-pouch.25734.archive.htm (http://www.stewartsmilitaryantiques.com/us-korean-war-m1-carbine-30-round-magazine-pouch.25734.archive.htm)
Thanks for those, both. :)
Cheers - Phil.
I wore that stuff or something very similar for years. Looking at it today it chills me, I am getting old.
Quote from: Techno on 18 January 2017, 08:24:00 AM
Thanks for those, both. :)
Cheers - Phil.
Yes, thank you very much indeed ! If we get the kit and uniforms right on the Korean war (US and South Korean troops) we effectively have elements of the range that can be used in WW2 and indeed many Latin American post 1950s armies. The South Korean's will be distinguished from US as they will be generally in light belt order and caps- this means they can also be used as American Rear Echelon and other types.
Gaiters. Yes, they are worn on fresh American troops circa 1950 as they arrive in Korea, but quickly vanish in the field, and trousers get "bloused" into the boots in what was previously "paratrooper" fashion. I have proposed to Leon and Phil that we go with the bloused version. Two reasons . 1 Our troops are not going on parade, and 2, it allows later war depictions of US troops.
Thanks again and
please keep the images and photographs coming. It all helps the options for quality design and sculpt
Quote from: cameronian on 18 January 2017, 08:45:13 AM
I wore that stuff or something very similar for years. Looking at it today it chills me, I am getting old.
That's quite a profound observation. I was in a military museum last year and felt a similar chill looking at 58 web.
Right men - Phil is looking at a US backpack radio the Styrene B1000- used in ww2 and Korea.
I have seen images of the plastic soldier Master Box MB 3589 "Marines in the jungle" . The kit has a radio operator with the B1000. Can anyone source images of this as the front and back views make sculpting so much easier .
Indeed any verified images of the B1000 would be appreciated .
We are discussing making the R/O with the radio on his back - a progression from WW2, but common in Korean images. The B1000 was the new generation that was more portable and used in this fashion.
This range is turning into a wonderfully interactive process :)
Quote from: Sunray on 27 January 2017, 07:37:53 PM
Right men - Phil is looking at a US backpack radio the Styrene B1000- used in ww2 and Korea.
I have seen images of the plastic soldier Master Box MB 3589 "Marines in the jungle" . The kit has a radio operator with the B1000. Can anyone source images of this as the front and back views make sculpting so much easier .
Indeed any verified images of the B1000 would be appreciated .
We are discussing making the R/O with the radio on his back - a progression from WW2, but common in Korean images. The B1000 was the new generation that was more portable and used in this fashion.
Hi Sunday,
I have just sent Leon a link to some photos of one of these which should fit the bill! Hopefully he will post them up if they help.
Mollinary
This is the link Mollinary just sent me: http://quanonline.com/military/military_reference/american/wwii_equipment/b1000.php
B1000 radio backpack
(http://quanonline.com/military/military_reference/american/wwii_equipment/radio/b1000.jpg)
(http://quanonline.com/military/military_reference/american/wwii_equipment/radio/b1000_back.jpg)
(http://quanonline.com/military/military_reference/american/wwii_equipment/radio/b1000_head.jpg)
Ta muchly !! :-bd :-bd :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 27 January 2017, 09:40:56 PM
Ta muchly !! :-bd :-bd :-bd
Cheers - Phil
You are welcome, the google-fu was upon me, obviously! The site that the link leads to seems to have quite a lot of detail on WW2 US stuff, as well as the 10 photos of this particular bit of kit
Cheers,
Mollinary
Quote from: paulr on 27 January 2017, 08:46:54 PM
This range is turning into a wonderfully interactive process :)
And that's what's special about Pendraken - we had the same interactivity over the Falklands and it was - in my opinion - the best range to date in terms of accuracy and animation.
Your help, knowledge and ideas are much appreciated and keeps the little Korean war sculpts on the corks appearing - by the magic that is Techno :-bd
How this?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3909/14489785501_48360f8205_b.jpg)
Quote from: fsn on 28 January 2017, 10:29:45 AM
How this?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3909/14489785501_48360f8205_b.jpg)
Are those real Leggo men 0r crafty Chinese copies ?
"The SCR‐300 has two different nomenclature variants. The more common type is SCR‐300a with the BC‐1000a. Normally, this type of radio is just shorthanded to SCR‐300. The other type is SCR‐300b with the BC‐1000b. These radios are, "practically identical except for slight differences in panel markings.""
http://www.90thidpg.us/Research/Original/TableauNr2/SCR300%20Primer%20-%20Pat%20Costa%2088th%20ID%205%20RIB.pdf (http://www.90thidpg.us/Research/Original/TableauNr2/SCR300%20Primer%20-%20Pat%20Costa%2088th%20ID%205%20RIB.pdf) (Most links not working but a good history of the subject.)
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140129212953-motorola-walkie-talkie-620xb.jpg)(http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae52/Pcosta88/SCR300%20Pictures/scr_300_4.jpg)
(http://cdn1.ima-usa.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/88decfed4fba5801a7dc8e03047eb978/a/m/amu8105__10.jpg)(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/da/cb/e7/dacbe719659a2c5d749d3260fde92f20.jpg)
http://www.90thidpg.us/Research/Original/TableauNr2/page3.html (http://www.90thidpg.us/Research/Original/TableauNr2/page3.html) WWII uage but interesting
http://www.90thidpg.us/Research/Original/TableauNr2/page6.html (http://www.90thidpg.us/Research/Original/TableauNr2/page6.html)
http://www.armysignalocs.com/veteranssalultes/sig_corps_korean_war_2.html (http://www.armysignalocs.com/veteranssalultes/sig_corps_korean_war_2.html)
http://cdm16635.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/landingpage/collection/p16635coll27 (http://cdm16635.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/landingpage/collection/p16635coll27) Some good photos in here of US soldiers in action in Korea -just no signallers!
Thanks, Nobby ! 8)
Cheers - Phil.
Some more of me lookin'
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7d/08/d8/7d08d8afc388b3930e1c8c70b6dd2047.jpg)(http://www.koreanwar-educator.org/memoirs/dixon_gene/chosin/mem_dixon_chosin_105_720x447.jpg)
(http://static1.uk.businessinsider.com/image/554b4524dd089586088b468a-480/chosin-korea-marines.jpeg)
BTW Bazooka 2.36" and 3.5" in one photo
(http://www.army-guide.com/eng/images/Bazookas1189099016.jpg)
Nobby, as the US Marines would say when confronted with a demonstration of such expertise and dedication - " OUTSTANDING !" :-bd
:-[
Good man ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: fsn on 28 January 2017, 04:52:07 PM
Some more of me lookin'
[http://www.koreanwar-educator.org/memoirs/dixon_gene/chosin/mem_dixon_chosin_105_720x447.jpg[/img]
Nobby/fsn sourced this great image of Americans yomping - like coming off the boat and the tab up to the Pusan parameter. Is this a style of sculpt you would like in the Korean range ??
Friends of mine sometimes re-enact Korean war (Dutch contingent attached to the US 2nd Infantry Division and equipped by the US Army) and have most of the stuff you might be looking for.
Just let me know if you're looking for anything particular uniform or equipmentwise please let me know.
Cheers,
Rob
Quote from: Ace of Spades on 15 April 2017, 09:35:40 AM
Friends of mine sometimes re-enact Korean war (Dutch contingent attached to the US 2nd Infantry Division and equipped by the US Army) and have most of the stuff you might be looking for.
Just let me know if you're looking for anything particular uniform or equipmentwise please let me know.
Cheers,
Rob
Thans Rob. :-bd Re-enactors tend to be a reliable source on kit/uniforms. Do your mates have a website or facebook page ? And what nations/war period do they re-enact?
Cheers
James
Ahhh...Goody ! Thanks, chaps ! :)
I've been trying to 're-find' this thread for ages......But I couldn't remember what it was called !
Cheers - Phil
What you should have done is create a new thread asking for help.
Quote from: fsn on 16 April 2017, 08:51:22 AM
What you should have done is create a new thread asking for help.
But he is a proud man our Techno. And when you do create a new thread about an existing topic, some nerd will be sure to rub your nose in it by resurrecting the original with "we have already discussed that" comment.
Oh for a culture that respects their elders.
Quote from: Sunray on 16 April 2017, 10:58:58 AM
Oh for a culture that respects their elders.
But NO-ONE respects ME !!!! :'( :'( :'( ;)
Awww, Ian...we all know that under that curmudgeonly exterior there beats a heart of pure chipboard.
Quote from: Sunray on 15 April 2017, 08:20:29 PM
Thans Rob. :-bd Re-enactors tend to be a reliable source on kit/uniforms. Do your mates have a website or facebook page ? And what nations/war period do they re-enact?
Cheers
James
Well, that wasn't very helpful was it now... offering help and then staying offline for months... apologies!
They do not have a specific site but I can probably post some pics or find their Facebook link for you. They portray the Dutch detachment attached to the US 2nd Infantry Division and we recently had a display event where a Dutch Korea veteran attended their display and he was very pleased with what he saw so they must be doing something right.
Cheers,
Rob