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Title: Pikemans Lament Basing
Post by: d_Guy on 17 January 2017, 03:47:26 PM
Yes - intentional left the apostrophe out of the title.  :)

The eVersion of "Pikemen's Lament" will be released January 24.
I'm curious if those of you who plan to use it will rebase to the "1,2,3" style described by the co-designer here:

http://dalauppror.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/18-days-to-release-123-basing.html

I have lots of individual 25/28 figures so I plan to try his scheme.
Title: Re: Pikemans Lament Basing
Post by: Ithoriel on 17 January 2017, 04:06:44 PM
Back in the days when I played games with figure removal I did this a lot. It can be a pain if the rules require you to be able to represent specific formations but it makes setting out, moving and packing up figures much quicker.
Title: Re: Pikemans Lament Basing
Post by: toxicpixie on 17 January 2017, 05:15:09 PM
I can see the attraction, but it just looks weird to my eyes!

Mind, I'd done similar with square bases for units before, so it'll work, I think it's just a perception thing with the round bases...
Title: Re: Pikemans Lament Basing
Post by: d_Guy on 17 January 2017, 05:23:47 PM
Yeah, it looks weird to me too! Since I won't be basing my "serious" stuff (10mm) and only my totally fun stuff (dust collecting 25/28mm) I'm going to give it a try and see if it looks better in person.
Title: Re: Pikemans Lament Basing
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 14 June 2018, 08:57:55 PM
I've yet to dive into the Lion Rampant family of rules.
The 3, 2, 1 basing might work really well with 10mm figures, but bear with me...

Single based 10mm might work out too fiddly, so how about doubling up for a 6, 4, 2 basing system.

I also think 4s and 6s look slightly odd with circular bases.
A combinations of small circles and larger pill or lozenge bases might work better.
I'm sure I'll end up sketching bases on the back of an envelope before I finally decide.
Title: Re: Pikemans Lament Basing
Post by: toxicpixie on 15 June 2018, 08:08:20 AM
Having got some Aztecs for Lion Rampant I'm now thinking I might do rounds. Or possibly 20mm  squares as that would sabot better for other games :D
Title: Re: Pikemans Lament Basing
Post by: fred. on 15 June 2018, 11:42:44 AM
The round basing is very clever, for 10mm I would add multiple figures to the bases and not worry too much about the exact figure count / ratio, I would use the base sizes to represent 1, 2 or 3 wounds.

The problem with the round basing is that the figures aren't really usable for other systems.
Title: Re: Pikemans Lament Basing
Post by: toxicpixie on 15 June 2018, 01:43:36 PM
Yes, that's mainly what mitigates against rounds for me - I have a half soaked idea to use them for Art de la Guerre as well! but I could use 20mm rounds or even 15mm and still sabot them, I guess. It's a bit more awkward but not crippling...
Title: Re: Pikemans Lament Basing
Post by: d_Guy on 15 June 2018, 03:21:19 PM
I ended up NOT liking the 1-2-3 basing for my 25/28s, went back to individual bases for greater flexibility.

Fred, you could use them with area-based movement rules like For King and Parliament or Regiment of Foot, v2 but agree otherwise.