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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: Sunray on 20 December 2016, 07:14:15 PM

Title: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Sunray on 20 December 2016, 07:14:15 PM
Well the bargain basement MiG 25 Revell 1/144 from Jadlam arrived this morning, its an easy build - a little bland on detail compared with some 1/144 I have built - but at £2.80 including postage - I am not complaining.

The scenery of the airstrip, hanger, and control tower is finished. Its just across the river from the Dropzone style city.

My daughter is juxtaposing Use Me rules with BKC.   Various figures and vehicles in various stages of finish.

I need a modern pilot figure. Is there anything out there compatible to Pendraken??  If stuck I will graft a head in a modern pilot helmet/ or something close (Minifigs door gunner?)-  to a figure in overalls.   I have the tea drinking tankers in mind for the body - any helmet come close?

I ask this because with the advent of Korea, the overrun of airfields offers a neat scenario.   Games like hold the bridge while we get these aircraft fuelled up and airborne...
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 December 2016, 08:36:24 PM
New SciFi marines would be a fair match?
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Techno on 20 December 2016, 09:05:17 PM
Good thought, Will.

If it's any help James....The sci-fi marines were, yet again, made using the same sized dollies as the Falkland's troops.....If you can find a suitable torso........

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 20 December 2016, 10:15:12 PM
Hello James/Sunray

It depends how much you want to pay :).

Ozmods, FoxOne and Brengun all make 1/144 modern pilots but not cheap :).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OzMods-1-144-MODERN-PILOTS-SEATED-/361319432927 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OzMods-1-144-MODERN-PILOTS-SEATED-/361319432927)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PDQAAOSweW5VetH5/s-l1600.jpg)

http://www.brengun.cz/e-shop/1-144-accessories-19/u-s-modern-pilot-(2-pcs-)-939 (http://www.brengun.cz/e-shop/1-144-accessories-19/u-s-modern-pilot-(2-pcs-)-939)

(http://www.brengun.cz/photos/catalog/BRL144082.jpg)

https://hlj.com/product/FXNB007 (https://hlj.com/product/FXNB007)

(http://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/fxn/fxnb007_0.jpg)

CheersGrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Sunray on 21 December 2016, 12:58:27 AM
My sincere thanks to Will, Phil and the ever resourceful Vic.

Yes, I had looked at Brengun and Oz offerings but for the quality and quantity balked at paying £2 per figure for resin cast mediocre sculpts. Shows what the modelling fraternity are prepared to pay for what is  "must have" items.

I met one such modeller last week and he was amazed at the quality we get from Pendraken at around 16.5 pence per figure.

Now I am never going to buy a platoon of modern aircrew figures standing with helmet, but for Pendraken quality - and how they match other figures  -  would be prepared to pay a higher price for  specialist packs.

It would also open up the Pendraken range to a whole new cash rich customer demographic.  I like the way the  little card and product description makes the Oz Model figures Model Shop friendly.   I would add the website address and direct them to the shop window.

Meantime, back to the spares box, the scalpel  and the superglue .....    I found an Airfix Folland Ghat pilot who is way under scale - so its off with his head.   :o He will join the Bitsa  legion headed up by Harry Palmer secret agent figure who is Bits a this and bits a that..... Must be nice to buy figures "ready made" as opposed to building composites.
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 21 December 2016, 02:56:28 AM
Hello

The only other option is the Preiser 1/144 NATO pilots and ground crew but they'd probably be slimmer than Pendraken stuff.

https://www.preiser-figuren.de/preiser-77100-1:144-bw-+-nato-piloten-und-bodenpersonal-unbemalt-18-st.-preiser-77100,art-18347 (https://www.preiser-figuren.de/preiser-77100-1:144-bw-+-nato-piloten-und-bodenpersonal-unbemalt-18-st.-preiser-77100,art-18347)

(https://www.preiser-figuren.de/images/detail/663_77100.jpg)

I'll have a look at shapeways  too

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Sunray on 21 December 2016, 03:35:05 PM
Jeeze Vic, they look positively anorexic !  But thanks anyway for sourcing the info.

To give you a sit rep, I sourced the old Airfix pilot from the 1/72 Gnat kit.  Yes it is seriously  undersized - way below 1/100  I have sanded the helmet down and it now fits with Pendraken heads whilst retaining the goggles detail, which - as Techno will tell you - sculptors exaggerate to enhance the optics. 

Now all I need is a suitable torso - overalls or similar mono - that can be painted up like an early G suit with a green stuff flotation
device.  Is it too late to order a si -fi marine ?  Otherwise its the dismounted tank crew

My son picked up a 1/144 Dragon IDF Kfir x2 kit.  The pilots were in the ejector seats according to the box photo.  But on finding them on the spru , they are blobs - like 1/200 figures.

Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: pierre the shy on 21 December 2016, 05:33:59 PM
What about these chaps Sunray?

http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/images/catalogue/MI101.jpg

10/12mm minifigs british modern ground crew - chap in the right with the screwdriver purhaps?

A bit bulkier than some of the other suggestions, but they come in packs of 18 so you could use others to be servicing the Firefox in readiness for flight?
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Sunray on 21 December 2016, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 21 December 2016, 05:33:59 PM
What about these chaps Sunray?

http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/images/catalogue/MI101.jpg

10/12mm minifigs british modern ground crew - chap in the right with the screwdriver purhaps?

A bit bulkier than some of the other suggestions, but they come in packs of 18 so you could use others to be servicing the Firefox in readiness for flight?

Thanks Pierre - they are already "on the job".  I purchased them some years ago as a REME LAD outfit .  Poor sculpts compared what Phil serves up, but with a careful paint job they are passable.

I had a shift through the spares box and found  BR130 crewman - He is built like Robbie Coltraine so I am dubbing him Valentine Zukovski - but he is wearing a MayWest and with a little filing and padding I have my pilot !  :-bd

Will put Valentine under the knife tonight on the kitchen table with wee drop of Black Bushmills to steady my hand. 
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: fsn on 28 December 2016, 08:42:04 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/582/31134363993_a9ca1bb022_b.jpg)


The figure (Valentine Zukovski as he is built like Robbie Coltrane) in pilot's gear started life as a Pendraken naval gunner (BR130).  The head came from an Airfix figure which I sanded down to close to 1/150 (still looks a bit like a Dixon)

Beside him, now in a white coat is a Minifigs ground crew figure converted to a boffin Dr Semelovski

And making up the party is "Harry Palmer" my budget version secret agent while awaiting  a proper CIA man in a trenchcoat  and is again a Minifigs conversion.

The £2.80 Revell MiG25 is awaiting transfers and fine paint detail.

In the background is a very crisp Trabant from Rallyman 1/144 being kitted out as an Eastern European police car.

Now these are crude and basic conversions, but they allowed a family participation role play game, and shows what can be done in 10mm.  It was a lot of fun and allowed me to share my hobby with nearest and dearest.  They get it !
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: fsn on 28 December 2016, 08:43:51 PM
Oh no! I've just noticed that post has come out as FSN!

It was me, Sunray that posted.

Leoonnn! It's happened again!

FSN has made a sensible forum member post as him!



Actually, photo was posted on behalf of Sunray.

Thank you Gentlemen.
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Sunray on 28 December 2016, 08:52:03 PM
Quote from: fsn on 28 December 2016, 08:43:51 PM
Oh no! I've just noticed that post has come out as FSN!

It was me, Sunray that posted.

Leoonnn! It's happened again!

FSN has made a sensible forum member post as him!

:-bd

Many thanks Stewart aka FSN and to all on the Forum for the tips, advice, and encouragement in getting this project this far.

James aka Sunray


Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: fred. on 28 December 2016, 09:09:37 PM
That was confusing!!   :o  ;)

Glad that 10mm skirmish worked to get your family into understanding gaming.
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 December 2016, 10:56:38 PM
Just got the Zukovski reference!
Great work
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Sunray on 29 December 2016, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 December 2016, 10:56:38 PM
Just got the Zukovski reference!
Great work

Rough cut conversions compared to Pendraken current level of excellence !  But I have to say Zukovski  is turning into quite a character - he got kidnapped on Christmas Day and featured on several board games including Monopoly !  He is still based to a penny pending me getting to the hardware store for some washers !

And yes, a Berlin Cold War participation game is anticipated. Rumour Control will soon have to launch a campaign for Soviet and East German infantry !

If you want to get family involvement (and cash investment ) in wargames its worth considering a role play game.  The man in the trench coat will be along presently.  He is a key player in the Cold War.    :) :)
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 31 December 2016, 12:49:56 AM
Hello James/Sunray

While not in the bargain basement, the new Bristol Freighter from Ozmods would fit right in to the genre:-

(http://files.hgsitebuilder.com/hostgator558820/image/omkits14418and14419bristolfreighterscopy.jpg)

Lots of other Cold War-ish goodness on the Ozmods page:-

http://www.ozmods-kits.com/aircraft-kits-1144 (http://www.ozmods-kits.com/aircraft-kits-1144)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Sunray on 31 December 2016, 02:25:25 PM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 31 December 2016, 12:49:56 AM
Hello James/Sunray

While not in the bargain basement, the new Bristol Freighter from Ozmods would fit right in to the genre:-


Lots of other Cold War-ish goodness on the Ozmods page:-


Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Thanks Vic

As you say, a real dedicated scale model as opposed to a bargain basement prop to provide a story line or scenic backdrop to a wargame.

Ozmodels are at the high end of 1/144 .   I try to keep airpower to a minimum and use BKC or CWC rules where they make an appearance on the table and Buzz off.       

£30 odd pounds will go a long way to getting my Pendraken  Post War battle groups on the table.   I want KPA,  South Korean ,  1950 winter Brits and ...Royal Marines painted up and based by the end of 2017. 


Having said that,  après the Fight of the Foxbat, I have a 2ft x 4ft airfield,  big hanger, ramp and two control towers, plus a few huts and barrack type buildings. ......that's a good scenario for a few games.  :-

HAPPY NEW YEAR! and thanks for all the tips !
Title: Re: Flight of the Foxbat
Post by: Sunray on 14 February 2017, 04:45:40 PM
Quote from: fsn on 28 December 2016, 08:42:04 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/582/31134363993_a9ca1bb022_b.jpg)


The figure (Valentine Zukovski as he is built like Robbie Coltrane) in pilot's gear started life as a Pendraken naval gunner (BR130).  The head came from an Airfix figure which I sanded down to close to 1/150 (still looks a bit like a Dixon)

Beside him, now in a white coat is a Minifigs ground crew figure converted to a boffin Dr Semelovski

And making up the party is "Harry Palmer" my budget version secret agent while awaiting  a proper CIA man in a trenchcoat  and is again a Minifigs conversion.


I posted this for Zbigniew who wanted to see 1/144 aircraft in proximity to 10mm figures -hope it is useful
The £2.80 Revell MiG25 is awaiting transfers and fine paint detail.

In the background is a very crisp Trabant from Rallyman 1/144 being kitted out as an Eastern European police car.

Now these are crude and basic conversions, but they allowed a family participation role play game, and shows what can be done in 10mm.  It was a lot of fun and allowed me to share my hobby with nearest and dearest.  They get it !