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Title: The Data of Bloody Big Battles
Post by: KTravlos on 17 December 2016, 08:11:48 PM
I collected data on plays of scenarios for Bloody Big Battles from the community. You can find the results at

http://phdleadhead.blogspot.com.tr/2016/12/the-data-of-bloody-big-battles.html (http://phdleadhead.blogspot.com.tr/2016/12/the-data-of-bloody-big-battles.html)

With Respect
Konstantinos Travlos
Title: Re: The Data of Bloody Big Battles
Post by: d_Guy on 18 December 2016, 12:58:06 AM
KT,
I enjoyed reading through your post and particularly going through the data table. I happen to enjoy playing games that are very asymmetric and in my choosen area of interest most of the historic  battles were extremely asymmetric in outcome.  That said, the numerically disadvantaged side often wins historically. I spend time weighting things to achieve the historic result then play as the losing side to see if they actually can win in the game. My success rate (win or draw) is well below 1/3 but I enjoy the games anyway.  :)

Your data and analysis provides food for thought - thanks.
Title: Re: The Data of Bloody Big Battles
Post by: ronan on 18 December 2016, 09:04:43 AM
Good job KT !

I bought BBB several months ago, started 2mm figs ( FPW 1870) (1) .. and didn't have time to play !
( except for a solo game, Coulmiers ) (2)

While reading this (and your other posts), i feel the need to play BBB !   ;)

Thank you.



(1) I know, they're not pendraken... but i wanted to feel the scale of this game.
(2) If you want the results - does a solo game count ? - The French lost.
Title: Re: The Data of Bloody Big Battles
Post by: KTravlos on 18 December 2016, 10:08:05 AM
With BBB I have found that even if a historical scenario is hard, or severely asymmetrical, it can be still fun. It might be that the existence of the historical scenario, creates a focus on narrative, which puts the win/lose thing to a second place.

But I do think that a 1/3rd draw-victory ratio for the side that is at a disadvantage is a good ratio.

Solo games count as well, but alas I am done for the time being with the data collection.

While I do like my 10mm armies, I am seriously considering on investing on two 6mm or 3mm armies for the purposes of generic scenario testing etc (think Red vs. Blue force)
Title: Re: The Data of Bloody Big Battles
Post by: Leman on 18 December 2016, 11:07:39 AM
I can recommend both. Just been working on some ACW 3mm (PP) siege type guns, which would serve equally well in most mid-late C19th wars. Really impressive little models, with four crewmen crawling over them. Will post photos when completed. Paper Terrain (USA company) make some marvellous 3mm buildings.
Title: Re: The Data of Bloody Big Battles
Post by: Steve J on 18 December 2016, 11:54:16 AM
6mm works really well for generic forces, as any uniform details are barely noticeable when on the table. However I have a plan to use Pendrakens 1st Schleswig-Holstein ranges to create 2 Imagi-Nations to allow me to play a wide range of mid 19thC type games.