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Title: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: AndyT on 09 October 2010, 06:17:37 PM
Hi

Not sure if this has been requested before but maybe tommygun-carrying gangsters and G-men/FBI could be an interesting skirmish type game. There's scope for some great looking cars as transport too.

These figures could perhaps be useful for pulp-dungeon games as well.


Cheers,
Andy
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Maenoferren on 09 October 2010, 06:55:14 PM
me please :) :D
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: FierceKitty on 09 October 2010, 06:59:48 PM
Fun idea, but sounds like 28mm stuff.
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: nikharwood on 09 October 2010, 07:43:56 PM
I'd be in - top-notch suggestion  8)
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: capthugeca on 09 October 2010, 08:03:04 PM
Me too though I would also like some more British villains and cads of the same era.
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: republic of tolworth on 09 October 2010, 08:17:15 PM
Oo yes please!
Great for VBCW. 8)
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Jase on 09 October 2010, 08:20:40 PM
I'm in too!!! the possibilities for the 20s/30s are endless (not to mention the great automobiles you can have then).
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: big_paul182 on 09 October 2010, 09:01:30 PM
yes,please :)


Paul

Brisbane/Qld/Oz
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Blaker on 09 October 2010, 10:33:08 PM
Dang it!  Count me in also  ;)

Gangsters and 30s vehicles in 10mm just way way too cool and very reasonable on the pocketbook  :)

cya
blaker
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: FierceKitty on 10 October 2010, 07:06:15 AM
Remember a couple of Raymond Chandler-style non-gangster types; the cool blonde, the hard-boiled detective, etc.
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: AndyT on 10 October 2010, 09:07:55 AM
And you'd need police figures/vehicles as well as the gangs and FBI.

I guess this could be a serious historically based set of figures or you could almost give it a comic book feel with character figures or themed gangs e.g. very large rotund gangsters, the vertically challenged (anyone remember the Ant Hill Mob?) or armed lady gangsters.
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Jim Ando on 10 October 2010, 09:08:19 AM
28mm domain.

how may would you need, a dozen a side tops.

sorry for the spoiler

jim
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: nikharwood on 10 October 2010, 09:47:14 AM
That's not a spoiler - just an opinion  :)

You could make the same argument about RPGing with 10mm - and the Dungeons seem to be pretty popular.

As for needing only a few figures - my own thinking is running to this at the moment:

Gangs:
Chicago Mob: Big Boss, 3 Bosses, 15-20 henchmen
Tong: Ditto

Lawmen:
FBI: about a dozen
Cops: Chief, 20 officers, 4 detectives

Characters:
2-3 Private Detectives, Reporter & Photographer, 4-6 Dames, 4-6 Flapper girls, various citizens incl newspaper boys, street urchins etc

Vehicles:
Lots of trucks, motorbikes, cars...


Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Luddite on 10 October 2010, 09:55:39 AM
I'll wade in with full-scale support on this one.

Love 'pulp' and a full 10mm range would be great.  In 28mm (i have a few for the pulp-style lovliness), the problem isn't the figures its the terrain.  Much easier to do in 10mm.

To the range i'd add:

Civilians
ALWAYS overlooked but essential for street actions, bank hiests, etc.

'Mountain folk' - for those hideout scenarios

Canadian Mounties for those border-running liquor truck style smuggler scenarios.

Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: FierceKitty on 10 October 2010, 10:15:21 AM
Small-town sherrif (cf. "The Lady in the Lake").
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: nikharwood on 10 October 2010, 10:24:43 AM
...not forgetting the nightclub owner, band, waiters, dancers etc etc...

8)
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Sandinista on 10 October 2010, 10:47:03 AM
I agree with Luddite, the terrain is the key here. On a small table you could have several blocks with a warren of alley ways without having to spend a fortune on buildings, with the added bonus of it all storing away in a small space.

Great idea, count me in  :)
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: clibinarium on 10 October 2010, 11:36:21 AM
It would all be pretty cool, but the killer is the small amount of figures necessary. Given that a lot of casts have to be sold of each sculpt, skirmish gaming isn't as good for the manufacturer as it is for the customer. Perhaps it  might work if there were resin buildings (making it analogous to the dungeon parts of the dungeon rnage)

I can see increasing numbers of people doing small scale games in 10mm, given the current economic climate though.
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: capthugeca on 10 October 2010, 01:05:57 PM
Quote from: Luddite on 10 October 2010, 09:55:39 AM
Love 'pulp' and a full 10mm range would be great.  In 28mm (i have a few for the pulp-style lovliness), the problem isn't the figures its the terrain.  Much easier to do in 10mm.

I second that. I've got quite a few 28mm pulp figures but haven't the space or money for 28mm terrain as well.
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Maenoferren on 10 October 2010, 05:30:35 PM
one of my blocks from our skirmish games set in the 30's done in 28mm, we had a couple of blocks of the buildings + roads, parks, shops and subway stairs, and of course the newspaper stand that gor driven through every single game, bar one... in that one it got blown up by a bazooka, which was attached to a car  :D
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc31/Maenoferren/100_3190.jpg)

The cars can have turrets added too, couldnt find a picture :(
some of the other buildings
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc31/Maenoferren/100_3197.jpg
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: GordonY on 10 October 2010, 06:04:04 PM
Is that World Works building Maen????

I find myself in need of buildings like that after having picked up a couple of painted street gangs yesterday at less than the price of bare lead.

Some not very great piccies of them here http://www.kirriemuirwargames.co.uk/forum/index.php?a=topic&t=658#p1 , not a bad deal at £15.  :D :D

Gordon
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Sunray on 12 October 2010, 08:16:34 PM
Neat idea Andy !

Gets my vote.  An armed civilian range perhaps? Many of the gangster/law enforcement types could be painted up as Resistance or Gestapo agents.  Loads of potential. In another thread, I relate to converting 1/148 N gauge civvie figures to secret service types.

Sunray out
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Maenoferren on 12 October 2010, 08:21:36 PM
Hi Gorodon, yes they are the World works Mayhem range, I have a whole host of them, some with ineriors and some like the ones here which are basic scenery to hide behind or on :)
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: GordonY on 12 October 2010, 09:04:43 PM
Right I'm off to get some of those buildings, plenty ink in the printer.  ;)

Gordon
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: ziparoo on 13 October 2010, 02:01:50 AM
I'd definitely be interested in this type of range.

I've got a shed load of individually based characters and monsters that I use for Labyrinth Lord. Its a lot easier to run battles and explore a dungeon on a sheet of graph paper with 10mm than 'battlemats' and 25/28mm IMHO. Could easily see myself doing the same for Pulp adventures.

Perhaps we can expand this request to include Pulp as well? Guys with aviator goggles and lugers, heroines, etc - that type of thing.
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 October 2010, 08:44:31 AM
Its not as bad as a guy who is converting Baccus 6mm stuff to do western gunfights......

IanS
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: nikharwood on 24 April 2011, 05:28:34 PM
[bump]  :)

Just nudging this one - since my posts on this [& I still would love to do full Gangster games] I've become addicted to Strange Aeons & this type of range would be spectacular  :D

Anyone else want to vote for this one - I'd love to see these in the Top 10  :)
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: republic of tolworth on 24 April 2011, 05:36:24 PM
Well I'm still very keen on the idea. I think if some are made generic 20-30s types they can be fitted into lots of ranges.
This means increased sales if they are bought for ww2, gangsters, Irish civivl war, SCW, VBCW, PULP, WW1 in fact it's one hell of a list that these figs would fit in with.



VOTE NOW.

First passed the post or AV, either way :D
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Blaker on 24 April 2011, 08:50:39 PM
Yes, yes, I vote on this range.  Yes the Gangsters could be used in various periods and scenarios - even a Dungeon Crawl - hint hint maybe an expansion   :D
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 25 April 2011, 01:44:46 AM
Hi

Count me in too, Useful for IWI, SCW, VBCW, etc.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: ronan on 25 April 2011, 09:12:43 AM
I would use this too !
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Hurrah on 25 April 2011, 09:29:37 AM
Certainly gets my vote.

1920's fuzz from both sides of the Atlantic, hoodlums and thugs of various flavours and generic civilian types would all be of use to me. Be it prohibition wars, the Hooverville clear outs, defence of the Shanghai concession, resistance and insurgents of various kinds, VBCW or against the minions of Cthuluh or some other alien incursion.
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: hamsterking on 25 April 2011, 10:27:39 AM
Ideal inspiration can be found in Dashiell Hammet's novel "Red Harvest" and his short story "The Big Knockover". Both contain Gangster type mass gunfire action scenes.
And both incidentally are great reads.

"Red Harvest" contains the following great lines of dialogue:
“Who shot him? I asked.
The grey man scratched the back of his neck and said: Somebody with a gun.”





Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Leon on 26 April 2011, 09:51:49 PM
Lots of interest in this one, only problem being as Clib says, not a lot of sales per figure sculpted.  Still, one to consider if we could get some kind of pack together for it.
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: nikharwood on 26 April 2011, 10:15:35 PM
I think some smart consideration to how you might market these would be the seller: there are plenty of other nations who would wear trilby hats, suits / long coats, and tote tommy guns / rifles / pistols etc - these really would be suitable for gangsters, pulp, AVBCW, resistance, Cthulhu etc

It might be that the only sensible way of selling these though is in a pack of figures that is varied: would this be feasible in relation to a mould etc at the planning stage? Design them to sell as a variety pack...15 different figures?

I also think that there might well be existing figures that could be converted for this range - rather than starting from scratch...plenty of figures with the right weapons & a different hat sculpted & a greatcoat added...job done! Simples. Etc.  ;) ???
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Leon on 26 April 2011, 10:18:10 PM
Quote from: nikharwood on 26 April 2011, 10:15:35 PM
It might be that the only sensible way of selling these though is in a pack of figures that is varied: would this be feasible in relation to a mould etc at the planning stage? Design them to sell as a variety pack...15 different figures?

There would need to be some kind of add-on sale from elsewhere I think.  Just 15 individual figures on their own would require a few hundred packs to be sold before we broke even!   :D
Title: Re: 1920s/30s Gangsters
Post by: Blaker on 26 April 2011, 10:19:48 PM
Could be a Dungeon Expansion Pack    :D  - you know the hidden treasure of a famous Gangster in well guard/patrolled underground hideout (dungeon)  Six already suggested a stat for machine/tommy gun.