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Title: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: T13A on 12 December 2016, 06:21:54 PM
Hi

Do people tend to put a base on their WWII vehicles and AFV's?

(Apologies if this has come up before).

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: d_Guy on 12 December 2016, 06:35:52 PM
Only have a limited number (not my area) but on bases.
Provides a place to put a bit of information, reduces
the amount of direct handling, and gives a uniform point from which
to measure distances.
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Ithoriel on 12 December 2016, 07:01:10 PM
Based figures alongside unbased vehicles look weird to me so I base them both.

Besides it lets me do little dioramas from time to time.

As d_Guy says it also give somewhere to put info and measure from.

Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: ronan on 12 December 2016, 07:01:56 PM
I don't.

( I don't like the look when they're on roads ..)
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: paulr on 12 December 2016, 07:19:20 PM
I second d_Guy &  Ithoriel's comments :)

But understand Ronan's road issue but most of my vehicles spend most of their time moving cross county :-\
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Albie Bach on 12 December 2016, 08:07:47 PM
Basing vehicles also allows you to add magnabase or other material for transporting, if that's an issue.
I usually just score the underside of the mdf bases and have my boxes lined with felt or something. It stops them sliding about but may need to be careful over speed bumps. No disasters yet.
If scoring isn't good enough I sometimes pva glue a bit of sawdust to the underside.
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Norm on 12 December 2016, 08:25:14 PM
I do because it keeps the height of the vehicle relative to the height of the based infantry and in the storage tray, the bases stop the vehicles coming into contact with each other.
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: fsn on 12 December 2016, 08:56:14 PM
I didn't, but now I do.

Basically 'cos of what Norm said. 
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: petercooman on 12 December 2016, 09:47:47 PM
Quote from: Norm on 12 December 2016, 08:25:14 PM
I do because it keeps the height of the vehicle relative to the height of the based infantry and in the storage tray, the bases stop the vehicles coming into contact with each other.

Same here
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Last Hussar on 12 December 2016, 10:24:20 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 12 December 2016, 09:47:47 PM
Same here
Ditto
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: T13A on 13 December 2016, 09:58:52 AM
Hi

Many thanks for all the replies, bases it is!

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 13 December 2016, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: ronan on 12 December 2016, 07:01:56 PM
I don't.

( I don't like the look when they're on roads ..)


Make two bases, but don't attach the model: one each for on and off-road use.  If you plan on using the vehicle in different terrains, you could even make multiple off-road bases  ;)
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: SV52 on 13 December 2016, 11:44:45 AM
Or use clear bases.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Short_guide_to_Clear_Bases
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Steve J on 13 December 2016, 12:36:08 PM
I don't base, except for things like motorcycles.
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Zippee on 13 December 2016, 01:19:17 PM
This is a marmite issue - you won't get consensus just poles.  :D

I base because my OCD likes the uniformity when packing away.

Others would burn me for it.

Do as you will, or as your club does
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Wulf on 13 December 2016, 01:38:24 PM
As I game mostly in Skirmish scale I don't base 10mm vehicles (I do when I play 6mm or 2/3mm, which are not skirmish games), and I try to keep the bases on figures minimal. I also don't like the look of a tank or weapons team carrying around their own section of grassland, or, worse, bushes & trees. While I do agree with comments above that any base does increase the height of infantry unrealistically, most '10mm' infantry these days look too big for '10mm' tanks anyway...

And basing either makes them look way too big compared to houses & especially doorways...

The one reason I might base some vehicles is size & weight - I game early war, and some of the tanks, especially ones I have in resin & 3d print materials, are feather light & could do with some base weight.
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 December 2016, 02:05:12 PM
Quote from: Wulf on 13 December 2016, 01:38:24 PM
And basing either makes them look way too big compared to houses & especially doorways...

So .... base the houses too?
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Wulf on 13 December 2016, 02:21:15 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 13 December 2016, 02:05:12 PM
So .... base the houses too?
Fine with individual buildings, but not if you make up section of urban terrain. Having every building on it's own plinth looks even more odd...
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Zippee on 13 December 2016, 07:11:30 PM
Quote from: Wulf on 13 December 2016, 02:21:15 PM
Fine with individual buildings, but not if you make up section of urban terrain. Having every building on it's own plinth looks even more odd...

They're not plinths, they're pavements!

or gardens or whatnot  :D
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: paulr on 13 December 2016, 11:01:53 PM
It also helps bring the Wendy houses up to the height of the figures ;) :D
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 December 2016, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: paulr on 13 December 2016, 11:01:53 PM
It also helps bring the Wendy houses up to the height of the figures ;) :D

Hear! Hear! ;)
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Sunray on 14 December 2016, 12:29:01 PM
Quote from: Norm on 12 December 2016, 08:25:14 PM
I do because it keeps the height of the vehicle relative to the height of the based infantry and in the storage tray, the bases stop the vehicles coming into contact with each other.

I have struggled with the basing issue over the years.  It becomes an issue in some rules when the viable range for a hit is taken to the edge of the base as opposed to the actual AFV.

From an asthenic viewpoint, the big AFVs do look good when their tracks are hitting the road.  Nothing jars like a base of grass and scrub on a tarmac high street or Autobahn.

IF ...you can source it, my solution was cheap industrial plastic card at 2mm thick.  I base my infantry and guns on the card - general  a dark base colour with a light sprinkle of the green/dark browns.  With only 2m difference the infantry do not look out of proportion to the vehicles.

It works for me - but it is a marmite question. No one correct answer.

   
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Last Hussar on 15 December 2016, 06:11:17 PM
Surely a Marmite question is an issue where people either love it or hate it.  And in this case there is a correct answer.

Marmite is made from the turds of Satan himself, and should be banned by international agreement.
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: d_Guy on 15 December 2016, 06:13:22 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 15 December 2016, 06:11:17 PM
Surely a Marmite question is an issue where people either love it or hate it.  And in this case there is a correct answer.

Marmite is made from the turds of Satan himself, and should be banned by international agreement.

Thanks! Your evocative description now means I won't have to find out for myself.
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Nick the Lemming on 15 December 2016, 06:33:09 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 15 December 2016, 06:11:17 PM
Surely a Marmite question is an issue where people either love it or hate it.  And in this case there is a correct answer.

Marmite is made from the turds of Satan himself, and should be banned by international agreement.

I agree there is only one correct answer, so it is a little baffling that you then proceed to type entirely the wrong answer!

Did you perchance omit a "not" both before the "made" and after the "should?" You should probably correct that, otherwise people will assume you're one of those weird people that doesn't savour the wonderful ambrosia that is marmite, presumably through some sort of industrial accident or genetic malfunction.
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Ithoriel on 15 December 2016, 06:39:02 PM
Marmite - nectar of the gods! Stirred into stews and soups, smeared on toast, built into twiglets ... yum!
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: paulr on 16 December 2016, 12:18:48 AM
To complicate matters there is of course Vegemite :D
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Ithoriel on 16 December 2016, 03:30:57 AM
"I said, "Do you speak-a my language?"
He just smiled and gave me a Vegemite sandwich" :)
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Nick the Lemming on 16 December 2016, 03:38:38 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 16 December 2016, 03:30:57 AM
"I said, "Do you speak-a my language?"
He just smiled and gave me a Vegemite sandwich" :)

Oh, do you come from a land down under?
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 December 2016, 04:49:12 AM
Where women groan and men chunder?
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Ithoriel on 16 December 2016, 10:24:58 AM
Nope Will, either "Where women glow and men plunder" or "Where beer does flow and men chunder"

"You better run, you better take cover." :)



Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 December 2016, 12:38:48 PM
It's a classic misheard lyric!
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Ithoriel on 16 December 2016, 02:01:11 PM
Beelzebub has a devil for a sideboard! :)
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Nick the Lemming on 16 December 2016, 08:27:33 PM
When I used to DJ at a club, I had a girl who kept coming up and asking me to play "Attila the Monster." I kept telling her I didn't have it, and had never heard of it, and she swore blind that I'd played it just a few weeks before. She even wrote own the title on a flyer so I'd remember to look through my collection and bring the record the next week. This went on for about 2 months, with me repeating that I had no idea what she was talking about, until one week she was bouncing around the dancefloor with a huge smile on her face, then came up and gave me a kiss afterwards.

I'd just played Stiff Little Fingers, "Alternative Ulster.'
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: paulr on 16 December 2016, 10:42:22 PM
Quote from: Nick the Lemming on 16 December 2016, 08:27:33 PM
When I used to DJ at a club, I had a girl ... she was bouncing around ... with a huge smile on her face, ... gave me a kiss afterwards.

:-/ :-/ :-/
Are you sure your on the right forum ;) ;D
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: d_Guy on 16 December 2016, 11:41:30 PM
 Green cheese and great pickled sausages  - so far over my head I can't even read the wing numbers.
And what's with all the little yellow balls? They look different - yet the same - yet different...
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: paulr on 17 December 2016, 12:55:56 AM
If you have to explain it, it wasn't a good joke :(

:-/ = confused

Those phrases, DJ ... , are not commonly uttered by a stereotypical wargamer ;)
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: Orcs on 20 December 2016, 10:00:49 AM
We  tend to agree generic base sizes at club. For 20th century all infantry are on 30mm x 30mm bases and all vehicles on 30mm frontage.  they are based to stop them bumping into each other, although I don't like it when the vehicles are on the road. Its the lesser of two evils.

Clear aceytatte bases would be good, but you have to be careful with the glue or you get a white patch on the base

For larger scales I do not base vehicles
Title: Re: To Base or not to Base, that is the question.
Post by: DanJ on 08 February 2017, 02:25:06 PM
I always base vehicle models as I recon the base represents the effective area the vehicle or vehicles occupy in the field and it makes measuring much easier, just measure from nearest point of the shooting base to nearest point on the target base