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Wider Wargaming => Painting & Modelling => Topic started by: Sunray on 02 November 2016, 01:44:25 PM

Title: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Sunray on 02 November 2016, 01:44:25 PM
Right men.  First N Korean T34s and BA64s arriving. Any tips on paint colours, shades,  weathering and finish ?
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Matt J on 02 November 2016, 03:14:33 PM
I was going to use same palette as my NVA tanks

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/MDV1.JPG)


but as yet I'm undecided what flock and base technique to use  :-\

also not sure on camouflage foliage, from photos i've seen not much as there was less risk of air attack in the early stages?

Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Sunray on 02 November 2016, 07:03:32 PM
Outstanding artwork Matt.  Two pieces of info that ay be useful:

1. The KPA T34s were painted in standard Soviet dark green that faded quickly to a medium green. (VAL 894 or VAL 893 ?)

2. If tanks are intended for blitz style attack, little thought is given to foliage/camouflage as the dust and engine smoke will betray movement and bushes on the deck will get in the way, and on occasions have proved a fire hazard from proximity to hot exhaust pipes.
. The faster you barrel along in a tank on a dirt road, the greater column of dust generated so cammo is a waste of time.  Soviet tactics in this era did not include 'overwatch' which requires discreet cammo .  Outside that, cammo takes a lot of time on an AVF and is usually reserved for long stay, leaguer or hull down defence.
Also, there is no indication that KPA anticipated the fast and furious UN air war.  No evidence of cammo nets being carried.

Recon vehicles like  BA 64 and Gaz jeep are likely to have more attempts at foliage camouflage.  If in reccie platoon you have a well camouflaged vehicle and when you want to observe you drive headlong into the bushes/cover/available foliage and blend until a comprehensive surveillance of the AoI (Area of Interest) has been conducted. 

Cheers

James
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Womble67 on 02 November 2016, 11:26:38 PM
Now thats a fantastic paint job

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Matt J on 04 November 2016, 12:56:42 PM
Got the email, T 34's on the way (hopefully be there when I get home)  :D
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Sunray on 04 November 2016, 04:11:12 PM
Would you go with 894 0r 893 as a base colour?
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Matt J on 04 November 2016, 04:25:44 PM
To my shame I'm a GW paint man so its Castellan Green  :D

but it looks to be a similar match to Valejo 893.

Maybe we should start a Korean war painting diaries thread (similar to tale of 4 gamers but Korean war specific) might generate some more interest.... or will it be me you and FSN shouting into the void  :D
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Ithoriel on 04 November 2016, 04:51:44 PM
I think the most recent Korean War to grab my interest ended in 1598! :)

However, it has been interesting to follow the current discussions.
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: fsn on 04 November 2016, 07:31:50 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 04 November 2016, 04:51:44 PM
I think the most recent Korean War to grab my interest ended in 1598! :)

There was a cracker in 1950!
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Matt J on 04 November 2016, 08:45:33 PM
The new model T 34 is a bit nice  8)

I' ve been pushing them round the kitchen island making bang bang noises ( I think I need to grow up  :-\  :D)
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Ithoriel on 04 November 2016, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: Matt J on 04 November 2016, 08:45:33 PM
I think I need to grow up  :-\  :D

See my signature for my view on this :D
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Sunray on 12 November 2016, 09:08:24 AM
Quote from: Matt J on 04 November 2016, 04:25:44 PM
To my shame I'm a GW paint man so its Castellan Green  :D

but it looks to be a similar match to Valejo 893.

Maybe we should start a Korean war painting diaries thread (similar to tale of 4 gamers but Korean war specific) might generate some more interest.... or will it be me you and FSN shouting into the void  :D

What base would you recommend for UK and American armour in the early (Pusan pocket) period of the war?
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Matt J on 12 November 2016, 05:47:13 PM
Hi Sunray

I'm going for something like this -

(http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/Light/M24_Chaffee/M24_Chaffee-Korean-War.png)

I have platoon of Chaffees to paint up. I'm having a look in my local GW tomorrow to find a good match for a base colour, though I'm open to suggestions.

I'm looking forward to adding the ferocious beast artwork  :)

Matt
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Fenton on 12 November 2016, 06:01:48 PM
Looks like Deneb Stone might be close though it's probably not called that anymore
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Matt J on 14 November 2016, 02:40:26 PM
I went with something with a bit more green in it.

Deathworld forest
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 November 2016, 03:44:06 PM
Or, stonegrey highlights over brown violet?
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Bunny on 16 November 2016, 07:10:44 AM
I think a Korean War log would be great.....which rules are people using?  I considered Flames of War.......May the Team Yankee version though?
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Zippee on 16 November 2016, 01:50:31 PM
They Died for a Tie - the Korean supplement for IABSM
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Cold Steel on 02 January 2017, 03:02:37 PM
Most roads in the Korean peninsula were dirt in 1950. The summers are dry and from experience, movement quickly turns the dirt into 6 inches of fine dust that gets all over everything. No matter what fancy color or camouflage you paint a tank, 5 minutes after starting down the road, it is covered in a layer of brownish tan.
Title: Re: Korean war- painting North Korean armour
Post by: Matt J on 07 January 2017, 12:03:43 AM
I need to really start painting my armour for this but keep getting distracted by reading books about it!

Are we getting tank commanders or is everyone using the ones from the ww2 ranges?