Hello. It's FSN here. I know I don't usually stray into Fantasy territory, but that's just because I reached puberty some years ago. :P
Anyway. I thought I'd make a suggestion for a new range of Warband - yes it's as unlikely as me asking for some additions to the LoA range (which IMHO still lacks sufficient Grenadiers attending to their Moustaches) - but I have it in the back of my mind to someday do a Hollywood Trojan wars, and I think that Amazons would be a nifty addition.
Yes, I know there are already a range of Amazions out there ... but they're ... um ... in need of an update. I imaging something like the cover of the old Runequest box. Classic Hoplite armour. Light infantry bows and pelta in tunics.
Just a suggestion.
(http://i.imgur.com/EDK4Il.jpg)
Sorry - is that the cover of the Runequest rules or Orcs & Mrs Orcs first date?
That would be very cool.
Anything vaguely classical age with realistic proportions would be nice. Even a 'Xena' or a 'Wonder Woman' version...
Admittedly, at 10mm scale, armoured females ought to be near indistiguishable from armoured males unless they have long hair...
Well, Guv, that depends on yer sculptor, innit?
If you've got yer good sculptor, 'e can, even in 10mm mind you, 'e can wield that green putty beautful like. Would bring a tear to the eye of a statue. Yer good sculptor could make a woman, right, in armour, right, and it be totally different to a man. You'd see it right away. Is all about yer cuurves, innit? Stans to reason. Obvious like. 'Cos yer female form, right, has more curves than yer average bloke.
That Pendraken lot, right, they knows all about it. Science like. Some of them Pendraken sculptors, right, would do a lovely job on them Amazons. Beautiful. So lovely, you'd think they could come to life and run about. Admittedly, bit more work needed to show it's some woman if she's in armour with a bloomin' big shield across her front, but the light infantry - no problem. And your more open pose, you know what I mean - no not that - I mean open with the arms, like, would be obvious to anyone but a one eyed cat walking away from you.
That Techno bloke. He'll be on here in a minute. He's one. Yes, he is - and a sculptor. He's always hanging about, dunno how he ever gets anyfing done sculpting wise. Anyway he'll be on 'ere telling us how difficult it would be but you know he'd do a beautiul job. Turn his hand to anything he could. You name it. You ask Techno to create a Flying War Mastodon, and he'd make one up without blinking. That's mostly due to the eye condition, but no time flat. Mastodon - wings - 40mm cannon. Boosh!
Yers, Mate. If he does some Amazons, they'd be more than just blokes with two big loaves stuck on the chest. Be things of beauty. Enough to make a statue weep.
You mark my words.
Admittedly so - and, I believe, challenge issued - but what I should have said was, historically accurate 10mm scale females in armour would be virtually indistinguishable apart from the hair. There are plenty of examples of them keeping their gender hidden after all.
Oh, if you're going to ruin it all with historical! :P
I agree. How many films have the mysterious warrior/knight/ninja appear, kind seven shades out a bunch of chaps then take off the helmet or mask or whatever and be ... female?
How many of them then, having shown the sense of full armour then discard it in favour of a mail bikini? :-\
It is, as you say, a challenge. One which I think the Pendraken sculptors will rise to.
For freaky support, which seems to be the requirement for Wardband, I suggest archer on a griffin.
I think the worst has to be Kiera Knightly in that Arthurian thing. Not the... biggest... of girls, it did nothing for her being clad in no more than a collection of leather belts...
p.s. it's got to be scythed chariots for support...
I love willowy, trim-figured women.
The one good thing about the Boudicca film, made in the Xena style with a cast of tens and a budget collected in a hat, was Alex Kingston, a fairly scary woman...
I'm with FK on this. Never seen the appeal of massive bazookas. Long, shapely legs are much more my cuppa.
Take it from me.....
Female figures are VERY difficult to do.....Unless you spend absolutely ages on them.
Cheers - Phil
I assume Milliput sets under drool...
Surely the support for Amazons would be centaurs, harpies, gorgons and minotaurs!
Griffins are formidable!
(https://images.alphacoders.com/197/197573.jpg)
There are already centaurs; harpies and gorgons are chaotic evil and minotaurs are male.
*Please help me - I'm starting to sound like I speak D&D*
Centaurs - so only one army can have a particular troop type? Pauls DBA campaign is in trouble :)
Harpies and gorgons are from Greek mythology, like the Amazons. What is this chaotic evil of which you speak? ;)
OK in Greek myth there's only one Minotaur, to be fair, and he's male, I'll give you that.
How about a gigantic bronze statue instead?
Or skeletons from dragons teeth?
Quote from: FierceKitty on 20 October 2016, 01:11:16 PM
I love willowy, trim-figured women.
Quote from: Leman on 20 October 2016, 02:35:37 PM
I'm with FK on this. Never seen the appeal of massive bazookas. Long, shapely legs are much more my cuppa.
I'm with both of you :)
Slim 'leggys' means ultra slim ankles.
Which is a right sod, as far as a 'snapping point' is concerned at this scale. :(
Cheers - Phil.
Speaking as a concerned friend - take a break!
Quote from: Techno on 22 October 2016, 10:47:20 AM
Slim 'leggys' means ultra slim ankles.
Greaves!
Quote from: Techno on 20 October 2016, 02:56:39 PM
Female figures are VERY difficult to do.....Unless you spend absolutely ages on them.
:o :o It that why you spend so much time on the reference material?
Quote from: Leman on 20 October 2016, 02:35:37 PM
Never seen the appeal of massive bazookas.
Well you've obviously never faced a horde of T34/85's on the Imjin.
Amaznos, RQII, 10mm, Greek mythology...
YEs of course, have my vote for what FSN says.
Quote from: Techno on 22 October 2016, 10:47:20 AM
Slim 'leggys' means ultra slim ankles.
Which is a right sod, as far as a 'snapping point' is concerned at this scale. :(
Cheers - Phil.
What about legs sculpted together, or with a toga-like tunic? like for example:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/12/68/c1/1268c1706e1e8c1cae943d6a47f80f93.jpg)
(http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/10525/11124074_1.jpg?v=8CE35843ACE4350)
(http://pic.stonecontact.com/picture/20149/113081/stone-carving-woman-statue-white-marble-sculptures-outdoor-garden-figure-sculpture-p285467-1b.jpg)
(http://www.statuesandsculptures.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/a/large-garden-statues--naked-woman-figurine-stone-sculpture_5.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f5/fa/e7/f5fae71b33fc00f7f6bd4a7cc8389ff5.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/00/2b/1b/002b1b8998d599a59c7efe305d978f94.jpg)
If you scroll down those phot's it's like a strip-tease.
I like the idea of the long skirts, get a bit of drapery into the figure.
Not sure of the practicality of an ankles together pose. :- Very poor balance, I would suggest.
The female ankle isn't that much smaller than the male, and surely greaves or ugg boots would solve the problem?
Go away.....I'm doing North Koreans, at the mo'. :P
Cheers - Phil
Phil - WORK FASTER.......
Yet again
IanS
There is always this young lady (although of questionable historicity):
(https://leadenshipsandtinmen.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/img_0504.jpg)
No problem with weak ankles with this version of an Amazon Warrior though I'm guessing she's rather overdressed for most wargamers image of fantasy Amazons :)
(http://mpfilmcraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/amazon1.jpg)
Well, if there's a suitable range to go with her....
Quote from: Ithoriel on 02 December 2016, 04:03:30 PM
No problem with weak ankles with this version of an Amazon Warrior though I'm guessing she's rather overdressed for most wargamers image of fantasy Amazons :)
Nope, she seems about right to me.
Perhaps a bigger shield?
Quote from: fsn on 02 December 2016, 05:10:16 PM
Nope, she seems about right to me.
Perhaps a bigger shield?
I think the pelta she's carrying is more appropriate than a hoplon (hoplite shield). Most Amazons should be foot or mounted archers anyway (IMHO) so a unit of these would provide mobile close combat support for the archers rather than forming a hoplite style battle line.
A thureos might be a possibility.
YMMV :)
(http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armies/dba32shields3.gif)
I'd rather have spear wielding hoplites.
Peltasts are support troops.
Quote from: fsn on 20 October 2016, 06:55:11 AM
Sorry - is that the cover of the Runequest rules or Orcs & Mrs Orcs first date?
This can't be our first date, for several reasons.
1 Mrs Orcs did not fight me off
2. It can't be Mrs Orcs as there is no glass of wine in the picture
3.Because we were being "discrete" there could be no bite marks
4 The woman in the picture is overdressed.
Apart from that its about accurate. ;)