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Title: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Steve J on 14 October 2016, 06:47:16 PM
Our latest game using Honours of War and based losely on the Battle of Minden. As always a fun game and details can be found below:

http://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/the-battle-for-minden-how-aar.html (http://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/the-battle-for-minden-how-aar.html)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jw7KHgqrnaE/WADwzcvuViI/AAAAAAAADyM/lelVGxyiChw6wZfBtziQwhMwNgA4MAuHACEw/s400/Minden%2B004.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uk7yfNL02tw/WADxdTblNiI/AAAAAAAADy8/u2cyTmj2ls8V8ifMvQ_IkAhbOenX8HmwACLcB/s400/Minden%2B016.jpg)
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 October 2016, 06:57:32 PM
Great report, sounds like quite a scrap!  8)
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Steve J on 14 October 2016, 09:06:18 PM
It was a good scrap Lemmey, but as always I lost to Dave. This has become a bit of a refrain at home post game; "Did you lose to Dave again Dad?"
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Leman on 14 October 2016, 09:16:47 PM
I can fully empathise with that. Just change the name to Mike.
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Womble67 on 14 October 2016, 11:12:14 PM
Nice report

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Roy on 15 October 2016, 08:34:12 AM
nice one  :-bd
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Norm on 15 October 2016, 01:39:50 PM
Enjoyed, thanks. I have never been a fan of allowing the manhandling of guns in any period.
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: wurrukatte on 15 October 2016, 02:14:16 PM
Great report

I like and use the HoW rules but also find the artillery a tad too mobile

W
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Leman on 15 October 2016, 03:49:56 PM
In our games we have a house rule: once field artillery is deployed that's it for the rest of the game. Battalion guns move with the infantry. Haven't yet attempted to include the mobile (horse?) Prussian and Austrian artillery yet.
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Dave Fielder on 15 October 2016, 05:36:52 PM
Thomas: "Dad, who won?"
Dad (Steve): "Dave"
Thomas: "You need to play with someone else"
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Steve J on 15 October 2016, 06:05:05 PM
QuoteThomas: "Dad, who won?"
Dad (Steve): "Dave"
Thomas: "You need to play with someone else"

Normally it will include; "Dad, why don't you play Craig anymore? You always beat Craig".

Out of the mouth of Babes and all that :D ;)
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Steve J on 15 October 2016, 06:07:19 PM
In Black Powder's 'The Last Argument of Kings', artillery is allowed only one move by man handling for the game. So pretty much once deployed, that's it as the civilians and their horses have b*gg*red off somewhere safe. I think this might be worth a try. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Dave Fielder on 15 October 2016, 07:14:16 PM
 :-\ ... thinking .... hmmm. Yep, seems like a good rule. That'll make the deployment very important, even after a man-handle (ooerrr ..).
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Techno on 15 October 2016, 07:26:10 PM
Great report, Steve.  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 October 2016, 03:43:40 AM
Was there a battle for Minden? I didn't think it was big enough to fight about.
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: pierre the shy on 16 October 2016, 07:34:05 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 16 October 2016, 03:43:40 AM
Was there a battle for Minden? I didn't think it was big enough to fight about.

Indeed there was on 1 August 1759 - some of the British Infantry regiments came out of the battle literally smelling of roses.

British Cavalry on the other hand had a very bad day, having never moved into action. The cavalry commander, Lord George Sackville, was court-martialled and dismissed from the King's service for disobeying orders as he refused to advance despite being ordered to do so by the Army Commander numerous times.
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Steve J on 16 October 2016, 07:48:13 AM
There is a link on my Blog to the battle giving the main details. Quite a famous battle for the British and as Pierre says, they came up smelling of roses :D
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Leman on 16 October 2016, 07:50:35 AM
I think FK is commenting on the for having replaced the more usual of,
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 October 2016, 08:09:06 AM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 16 October 2016, 07:34:05 AM
Indeed there was on 1 August 1759 - some of the British Infantry regiments came out of the battle literally smelling of roses.

British Cavalry on the other hand had a very bad day, having never moved into action. The cavalry commander, Lord George Sackville, was court-martialled and dismissed from the King's service for disobeying orders as he refused to advance despite being ordered to do so by the Army Commander numerous times.

Sounds very like the Battle of Minden. I didn't know that the strategic objective was the capture of Minden; I thought it was about stopping a French offensive and protecting Hannover.
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Dave Fielder on 16 October 2016, 09:54:20 AM
I remember there was a bit of a tussle over the last piece of Lemon Drizzle cake; would that be a 'Battle of Lemon Drizzle' or 'Battle for Lemon Drizzle'?
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Leman on 16 October 2016, 12:27:57 PM
If lemon drizzle was the actual objective of the battle, then for. However, I have often heard the phrases the battle of Stalingrad, the battle of Atlanta, even though these were the objectives. The only one I can think of offhand is the battle for Berlin.
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 October 2016, 12:48:17 PM
I think most serious historians discount the Battle of the Lemon Drizzle; it was really a piece of toast with honey.
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 October 2016, 01:17:53 PM
Crumbs!
Title: Re: The Battle for Minden - an HoW AAR
Post by: Leman on 16 October 2016, 02:43:53 PM
Oh dear, mustn't crumble.