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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Subedai on 23 September 2016, 02:58:59 PM

Title: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Subedai on 23 September 2016, 02:58:59 PM
Anyone seen this before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWpPGv7oh4o

Very melodic yet mournful.

MickS
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 September 2016, 03:08:24 PM
Brilliant find!
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Leman on 23 September 2016, 06:07:26 PM
That's an amazing find.
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 September 2016, 06:50:42 PM
The Royal Museum of Scotland here in Edinburgh had an exhibition about the Celts.

They had a reconstruction of a carnyx together with some bits of historical ones. They had a video presentation about the instrument and I was fascinated by the range of notes the person playing it could produce.

They also had a reconstruction of the chariot found in a local burial site.

For me, the most interesting original artefact was undoubtedly the Gundestrup Cauldron which had been loaned to the museum for the exhibition.
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: d_Guy on 23 September 2016, 07:15:20 PM
Beautifully dark and foreboding - really liked it!
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: fsn on 23 September 2016, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 23 September 2016, 06:50:42 PM
The Royal Museum of Scotland here in Edinburgh had an exhibition about the Celts.

They had a reconstruction of a carnyx together with some bits of historical ones. They had a video presentation about the instrument and I was fascinated by the range of notes the person playing it could produce.

They also had a reconstruction of the chariot found in a local burial site.

For me, the most interesting original artefact was undoubtedly the Gundestrup Cauldron which had been loaned to the museum for the exhibition.

I was lucky enough to see that exhibition. Never knew there was so much to carnyx.
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 September 2016, 01:22:03 AM
I'm amazed. I'd always expected a raucous blare like a Steerhorn, not a beautiful and responsive range like that. I suppose he is playing with a modern mouthpiece?
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Techno on 24 September 2016, 06:28:39 AM
That IS an interesting find.

I was expecting a 'mini foghorn' BLAAART !, or something more akin to a scream.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: fsn on 24 September 2016, 11:23:41 AM


This is from the Edinburgh exhibition.
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: d_Guy on 24 September 2016, 12:44:52 PM
A seven foot horn with wiggly ears, jingling bells, and a flapping red tongue - what's not to like! If we only had a 10mm model - I would add it to my newly acquired 19th century band in place of the missing jingling johnnie.  :)
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 September 2016, 12:55:56 PM
Baccus have some horse figures with it - 6mm o'course

IanS
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Techno on 24 September 2016, 03:16:01 PM
I thought I'd made one of those for Will.
(It didn't have flapping ears, though.)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 September 2016, 04:19:45 PM
Not that I remember...
A lemming, a tribble, and an as yet unfinished Meerkat.
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: fsn on 24 September 2016, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 24 September 2016, 12:44:52 PM
A seven foot horn with wiggly ears, jingling bells, and a flapping red tongue - what's not to like! If we only had a 10mm model - I would add it to my newly acquired 19th century band in place of the missing jingling johnnie.  :)

If a carynx you should seek
I know a place where you can peek
you must be brave, must have the b***s
to go and search amongst the Gauls.

Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Techno on 24 September 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 September 2016, 04:19:45 PM
A lemming, a tribble, and an as yet unfinished Meerkat.

I'm absolutely positive I've made a figure with a carynx/karnynx.... Not something I'd forget quickly.....Which range ?.....Don't ask me  X_X

The meerkat is still collecting dust in the drying tin, Will.  :P ;)

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 September 2016, 07:38:38 PM
Well, it was for Leon, and it's in the Gallic range!
http://www.pendraken.co.uk/AGA3-p7541/
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Techno on 24 September 2016, 07:47:30 PM
THAT'S the kiddy.

Thank you, Will. :-bd

As I've said before....I make SO many of the wee men....They become almost a blur.

Cheers - Phil  :)



Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: fsn on 24 September 2016, 08:29:28 PM
So my clue was too foxy for you was it Techno?

Quote from: fsn on 24 September 2016, 04:33:06 PM
If a carynx you should seek
I know a place where you can peek
you must be brave, must have the b***s
to go and search amongst the Gauls.

Yeah. I can see I hid it a bit too deeply in the verse.

:P :P :P :P :P :P :P  =):P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: Techno on 25 September 2016, 05:51:37 AM
Derrrrrr,  #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o
That didn't sink in, at all !  :-[ :-[ :-[

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: The sound of the Celtic carnyx
Post by: DHautpol on 28 September 2016, 03:05:10 PM
I think that the Edinburgh exhibition was the same exhibition I saw at the British Museum about this time last year.  I remember being surprized by the size of the carnyx heads (a bit bigger than I expected) and you could play a recording to hear how they sounded; as others have said it was more melodic that you might expect from a war horn.