OK. As promised in the topic, "What is your favourite military aircraft?" here is one on military vehicles.
As I mentioned in the other thread, I am fascinated with the promotional videos released by defence firms - cool machines, awesome action and often, cool music. Now and again, I find myself infatuated with a particular vehicle (I actually like more than one .... but I won't say .... in case the other one finds out). I find that I currently have a particular interest in 8x8 armoured vehicles. Because they are cheaper and more economically maintained, more and more nations are considering this option. For example, the Australians in their Land 400 project have recently narrowed their choice down to two, Rheinmetall's Boxer and Patria's AMV35, both of which I like very much (damn! I've given it away). Here is one of these videos.
:)
[OK. So its a spoof - but I like the real thing too! (see link below) ]Now, I know there are guys out there who like a particular tank and not just any tank; often its only a particular model of that tank. So what's your favourite military vehicle (and if you care to explain, why)?
P.S.
The real AMV 35 .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1z0HO-KGRE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1z0HO-KGRE)
I like the Boxer too! ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrxjdbWfEk4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrxjdbWfEk4) .... sorry .... I did it again .. didn't I?
The real Boxer ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnylJaVD4b0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnylJaVD4b0)
For me it has to be the 1914 Minerva armoured car. Decided to splash out on the very expensive, but remarkably exquisite Van Dykk models.
Various - Cheify, Cent, Crusader....
IanS
pz II L !
HAs always been a favourite of mine, don't know why but i find it great ;D (also the only tank model i got from a different manufacturer, because pendraken don't do one ... yet)
Umm .. I don't really have one ... but I think I could maybe come up with a few ...
Churchill - so ugly but so versatile
T35 - so ugly but ... well useless
PzIV - the ugly sister of German WWII tanks ... served throughout the war but never as glamorous as the Panther and Tiger
StuG III - ditto
Just about any little 4 wheeled A/C - Daimler, Humber, SdKfZ 222, Autoblinda 41, Rolls Royce, Panhard 178
Oh, and the Panhard EBR. I had a Dinky model of it, and it was a chunky brute.
... and I'm sure there's one more ... but I can't quite remember ..
Probably the Churchill AVRE for me - both the basic version, and all the crazy funnies.
Stalwart
The Sheridan M551 - like the dual purpose primary weapon
The WW2 Panhard armoured car, Vickers VI and the T34/85
Either the SG-122
(http://www.o5m6.de/SG-122_small.jpg)
or the PzIIL "Luchs"
(http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/Light_Tanks/Panzer-II/panzer_II_Luchs.png)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 04 September 2016, 05:51:24 PM
or the PzIIL "Luchs"
(http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/Light_Tanks/Panzer-II/panzer_II_Luchs.png)
Smart man :D
My favourites are split between the vehicles I've known for many years, and the new stuff I've got used to in World of tanks - so my current favourites are the T-35 (monstrous monument to military posturing), and the Archer - one of the craziest and most awkward vehicles to use in World of Tanks, and one of my highest rated 8) )
I've also got very fond of the SU-14-2 - an SPG based on the T-35 hull. Basically a barn armed with a howitzer... :D
I like the odd 'uns...
Late neo-Assyrian four-crew chariot.
T34/76 is easily my favourite
Cheers
Ian
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 September 2016, 09:48:10 AM
Late neo-Assyrian four-crew chariot.
;D Oh very good.
Centurion, every time, great tank.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 September 2016, 09:48:10 AM
Late neo-Assyrian four-crew chariot.
But that's not Aztec - sorry forgot - no wheels.
IanS
Quote from: ianrs54 on 05 September 2016, 11:40:21 AM
But that's not Aztec - sorry forgot - no wheels.
I have read that, rather strangely, the Aztecs did have wheels, but only ever used them on children's toys. A bigger issue was too many hills and no big draft animals...
But the Persian Scythed Chariot... hmm...
I should probably add this to the Lynx and SG-122 :)
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w669/ithoriel/King%20of%20Kish/Armies%20and%20Enemies/20160831_141300_zps2kwoch2r.jpg)
4 Ass power per chance ?
IanS
'Bout time we had something other than a bloody boring tank!
Quote from: Leman on 05 September 2016, 01:13:04 PM
'Bout time we had something other than a bloody boring tank!
This any better?
(http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.imdserve.com/images/news/2012/08/13/1344884561937-i0evqvhcfmmq-960-540.jpg)
"A rare surviving example of a world war ii japanese military bicycle with original wartime rubber"
(https://dmna.ny.gov/historic/reghist/wwii/infantry/165thInf/gfx_165thInf/165thInfSpoils.jpg)
"To the victor go the spoils: Sgt. Harry Huff, of Charleston West Virginia" [165th Infantry]
Or this?
.... well ... OK .... so it flies ...... but it says it's a
car! :>
Welbike?
(http://home.earthlink.net/~flyboyken/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/welbike02.jpg)
Kettenkrad?
(http://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/germany/halftracks/kettenkrad/Kettenkrad_from_luftwaffe.jpg)
Military Unicycle?
(http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww190/unicyclisttexasa/n675553894_1529440_2734882.jpg)
This is much more like it. Excellent stuff chaps. Incidentally that was not a sentence as it did not contain a verb. However, as this is not an English lesson, and I do, in fact, know what constitutes a sentence, I don't care that it doesn't contain a verb. It is how I wished to express myself at that particular point. Now, should the Grammar Gestapo appear I am quite ready to tell them to flog of; the Spelling Gauleiter got here first.
Quote from: fsn on 05 September 2016, 05:34:12 PM
Welbike?
(http://home.earthlink.net/~flyboyken/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/welbike02.jpg)
Good grief......In my mid/late teens, I can remember spending a rather fruitless afternoon with 'the gang', trying to get one of those to run again.
(If it wasn't one of those, it was something almost identical......Was it something used by the Parachute Regiment ?)
Cheers - Phil
Based exclusively on the old Airfix soft-plastic model which graced many a bath-time amphibious exercise, the DUKW/Duck :D
Quote from: Techno on 05 September 2016, 06:54:44 PM
Good grief......In my mid/late teens, I can remember spending a rather fruitless afternoon with 'the gang', trying to get one of those to run again.
(If it wasn't one of those, it was something almost identical......Was it something used by the Parachute Regiment ?)
Cheers - Phil
Yup. Could be dropped in a parachute container.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welbike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welbike)
(http://atomictoasters.com/wp-content/gallery/welbike/welbike-c5154465-being-assembled-in-field.jpg)
They did have one at the Assault Glider Museum new Shrewsbury. Along with a Horsa Glider.
Was shown around by a chap called Richard Head.
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 05 September 2016, 07:01:47 PM
Based exclusively on the old Airfix soft-plastic model which graced many a bath-time amphibious exercise, the DUKW/Duck :D
Mine fell apart.
(the warm water 'melted' the glue!) :'(
I offer that Friend ODP was referring to this offering. No glue involved.
(http://www.vintage-airfix.com/images/Ready%20Made%20HO-OO%20DUKW.jpg)
Oh yeah! I remember these! My pal used to have that one (or something similar). Did they do Pershing Tanks as well?
There were M110, Centurion, M113, and Patton, Panther and a few others - Quad and 25pdr.
The ones I first had came with the Beach Defense and Bunker playsets - which came with some WWII stuff (troops, bunkers and DUKWs) and various post war stuff such as Centurions and Pattons, plus a self propelled 155mm.
Later I remember getting individually boxed ones, like pictured, and these were often far my useful for WWII gaming, Sherman 76s, Tiger I, 25pdr, German 50mm and half-track. They were very tough models - if not the most accurate.
Quote from: Leman on 05 September 2016, 06:28:52 PM
This is much more like it. Excellent stuff chaps. Incidentally that was not a sentence as it did not contain a verb. However, as this is not an English lesson, and I do, in fact, know what constitutes a sentence, I don't care that it doesn't contain a verb. It is how I wished to express myself at that particular point. Now, should the Grammar Gestapo appear I am quite ready to tell them to flog of; the Spelling Gauleiter got here first.
:-[
Yes, sorry Leman, it suddenly dawned on me after I'd left the forum I'd misread your comment.
Is a pony a form of vehicle...?
(https://stargazermercantile.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Blog4.jpg)
I may be the one and only voter for the AIRFIX Churchill VII. :o
A b****r to put together as a kid, but once you got it right, (cut the tracks!), you had a TANK! 8)
The soft plastic Airfix APC is actually an FV432 - round hatches. And it looks like someone never discovered the trick to the Airfix Churchill - the bogie wheels on the sprue are spaced to exactly fit on the suspension units, glue, let dry and trim.
IanS
There was an Elephant and Truck with anti tank gun. Both very rare. I had the an unboxed Elephant and sold it to a collector for £35 about 10 years ago
Going back to the DUKW - 3 of those at one point were converted to tour busses and at one stage they were in Glasgow - part of the tour was a dip in the Clyde and a quick trip Doon The Water. Never took that tour, but the crew showed no surprise when I and a couple of other prople approached them when it was parked & asked if we could crawl underneath and look at the suspension...
Apparently one of them had patched up bullet holes in the internal watertight partitions...
One sank in Albert Dock, and another caught fire in the Thames.
IanS
I quite like the German field kitchen.
Quote from: fsn on 05 September 2016, 07:53:18 PM
I offer that Friend ODP was referring to this offering. No glue involved.
(http://www.vintage-airfix.com/images/Ready%20Made%20HO-OO%20DUKW.jpg)
When I was a kid the ferry from rhubodach to colintraive (mainland Argyll to Bute) was a landing craft, the DUKW was laid up on the beach in Rothsay, great fun to play in.
I like
British - Matillda 2
German - SDKFZ9 Famo
Russian - BT 7
Polish CP7 tractor
Italian Pavesi Tractor
Quote from: ianrs54 on 06 September 2016, 05:47:48 AM
The soft plastic Airfix APC is actually an FV432 - round hatches. And it looks like someone never discovered the trick to the Airfix Churchill - the bogie wheels on the sprue are spaced to exactly fit on the suspension units, glue, let dry and trim.
IanS
F--------------f--------------f------------------------f----------------------f---FUDGE IT!
Seriously?!
I might have completed the one I had as a kid if I'd realised that! Nearly put me off model building for life, that did :D
Quote from: ianrs54 on 06 September 2016, 09:16:32 AM
One sank in Albert Dock, and another caught fire in the Thames.
Some 50+ years after they were built - and built to wartime specs too.
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 06 September 2016, 07:23:00 AM
There was an Elephant and Truck with anti tank gun. Both very rare. I had the an unboxed Elephant and sold it to a collector for £35 about 10 years ago
I had the Elefant - might have a check if its still kicking around. I did sell a few of this range for good money a few years ago.
Quote from: toxicpixie on 06 September 2016, 11:12:33 AM
F--------------f--------------f------------------------f----------------------f---FUDGE IT!
Seriously?!
I might have completed the one I had as a kid if I'd realised that! Nearly put me off model building for life, that did :D
If its any consolation, I also struggled with the Airfix Churchill. I seem to recall that lining up the bogey wheels was very fiddly if your aim was not to glue them so that they would roll freely. ~X(
(I think my plan became unstuck - or should that be "stuck" - when I couldn't satisfactorily join the tracks together or something, so ended up gluing them!)
I think I just stuck half the bogies on then gave up in frustration.
DUKW - there was one used to go across the harbour to the castle in Jersey, it was ace! Bloody loud. No chance of a stealthy insertion with that...
Quote from: toxicpixie on 06 September 2016, 11:12:33 AM
F--------------f--------------f------------------------f----------------------f---FUDGE IT!
Seriously?!
I might have completed the one I had as a kid if I'd realised that! Nearly put me off model building for life, that did :D
I only found out on the 4th or 5th build. There is a more tedious task - any Revell modern tank, these seem to have been reduced from 1/32nd scale, and have separate link tracks, whilst the wheeled ones have the full transmission and steering system on them, ARGGGGGHGH
IanS
That's some lovely detail. Waaaaaaaay to much for a gaming model, or indeed any model you're not leaving as display with open hatches and a maintenance crew cracking track and fixing oil leaks etc etc!
I tried, many years ago, building some 1/72 ESCI tanks with separate track links.
...yeah... maybe not...
I decided quite a while ago that I would only build the simplified PSC, Armourfast and Zvezda kits. The only exceptions are where a vehicle is not available in resin or metal, but not many of those needed now
I collect & build a load of resin 1:144th kits, mainly of japanese/Chinese origin (the kits, not the tanks) of real rarities like the Australian Sentinel (a set of all 4 different variants!). Amongst figure kits, Japanese resin kits are considered about the finest. These... aren't...
I've started to look for finished painted versions - having a couple of examples where I have both the kit & the prepaint, and it's clear the prepaint is the kit, pro-built & painted. But the quality of the resin & the casting is better! Haven't seen a Sentinel AC4 prepaint yet...
I'm still struggling to think of what my favourite military vehicle is :-\
I know what aeroplanes I like.
I know I like acw monitors, and submarines in general.
But land based vehicles :-\ :-\
I even know what rail engines I like - and in which company livery.
Quote from: fsn on 05 September 2016, 07:53:18 PM
I offer that Friend ODP was referring to this offering. No glue involved.
(http://www.vintage-airfix.com/images/Ready%20Made%20HO-OO%20DUKW.jpg)
Yup, that's the one :-bd :x
I had all three of the play sets and multiple extra vehicles. They're probably in the loft at my mum's house. I know I rescued the figures a few years back when I was looking into 1:72nd plastics for Gloranthan gaming :-[
Cheers!
Meirion
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 September 2016, 09:48:10 AM
Late neo-Assyrian four-crew chariot.
But since many people are talking about modern AFVs, Crusader III, for its beautiful low lines and its desperately poor combat performance.
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/AVRE1.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/AVRE1.jpg.html)
Good Man!
Is that frame on the front of that AVRE for a fascine? I always thought it was tilted?
like this:
(http://worldwar2headquarters.com/images/normandy/hobartsFunnies/facine-hobarts-funnies.jpg)
No the frame is general purpose - for the fascine, carpet bobbin etc and a whole variety of vegetable named demo charges.
IanS
You learn sometingnew every day. Thanks!
Sdkfz222
QuoteIs that frame on the front of that AVRE for a fascine? I always thought it was tilted?
This AVRE is a monument in Normandy, the frame is a simple mild steel affair which seems to have no purpose and is just tack welded in place.