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Title: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 August 2016, 09:35:22 AM
Shall I spend more time playing with them than I do painting them?
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 August 2016, 10:02:44 AM
Thought that was the idea - but the reverse was often true.  :'( :'( :'(

IanS
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Subedai on 28 August 2016, 10:24:29 AM
Most definitely the other way round for me. I've got armies I've had for more than 3 decades and never had a game with them, but one day...

MickS
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Zippee on 28 August 2016, 11:07:51 AM
A painted army is a potential game

An unpainted heap of models is a heap of work away from potentiality

Time spent painting thus increases the likelihood of more games.  :-\
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Bodvoc on 28 August 2016, 11:42:22 AM
Planning and painting a new army is all part of the fun :)
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: fsn on 28 August 2016, 11:46:31 AM
Absolutely!  :D
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 August 2016, 11:46:46 AM
Do you manage to remember that when grinding through units that need hundreds of identical troops?
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: fsn on 28 August 2016, 12:05:35 PM
Certainly. They form a coherent visual core to the thing.

Take for example, the French Napoleonic army. Infantry are tedious beyond belief, but if you alternate painting them with the more "interesting" troops like Hussars, horse artillery etc, then you a) get a pretty balanced army and b) keep the tedium of lots of French infantry at bay.   
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Ithoriel on 28 August 2016, 01:35:13 PM
Researching, planning and collecting armies are a joy and delight to me. Painting and playing, these days, not so much.
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: d_Guy on 28 August 2016, 02:26:01 PM
I think about playing more then actually doing it and certainly  way more then painting.
Mostly I play vicariously through this forum. I like collecting figure, staring at them and imagining them painted. They would win awards of course.
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Bodvoc on 28 August 2016, 02:33:14 PM
FSN has it spot on!
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Subedai on 28 August 2016, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: Zippee on 28 August 2016, 11:07:51 AM
A painted army is a potential game

An unpainted heap of models is a heap of work away from potentiality

Time spent painting thus increases the likelihood of more games.  :-\

Very Sun Tzu-esque


Quote from: Ithoriel on 28 August 2016, 01:35:13 PM
Researching, planning and collecting armies are a joy and delight to me. Painting and playing, these days, not so much.

Yeah, that sums me up as well.

MickS
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Orcs on 28 August 2016, 04:42:44 PM
I think that when looking at a new Army you should ask the question, BUT I don't think many of us do.

For me part of the fun is organising collecting and painting, so I often buy models to add to a collection  just because I like them.  An example of this would be the Italian Pavesi artillery tractor. They were used in WW2 buy at leats the Italians and Hungarians.  I ordered one but found that it could be made as a covered or uncovered version, so I had to get another so I could field one of each

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRVP_gjDH7ipkBeNlx2Ewi7uV6e0vhp_x3Iq34smP9GBL9_ex44Q)
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: fsn on 28 August 2016, 06:02:38 PM
I likes me a regular army. I hates painting irregulars. No proper colour scheme. 

Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 28 August 2016, 04:42:44 PM
I ordered one but found that it could be made as a covered or uncovered version, so I had to get another so I could field one of each
I likes the way you think, Friend Orcs.
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: petercooman on 28 August 2016, 07:02:22 PM
I used to buy lots and lots of stuff for different games, but it became apparent that we always went back to blitzkrieg commander, so i am buying less models now. (actually waiting on the pendraken WWII Belgians, i want to have 2 early war armies,might as well get an army for my home country)

As much as i like the ACW, hoplites and napoleonics, when we ask what we will play, almost everyone chooses blitzkrieg commander, so i stop getting new armies ready for different periods. When i do get stuff ready i usually have skirmish forces for solo play, so the "painting time-play time " ratio is somewhat different to 'proper' forces.

Quote from: fsn on 28 August 2016, 06:02:38 PM
I likes me a regular army. I hates painting irregulars. No proper colour scheme. 

+ 1 on this though. If i compare the painting time on a regiment of union troops to that of confederate troops, you see that the union paints up faster! Same thing for my latest painting, british soldiers and partisans. British are way easier to 'get in a routine'.
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: ronan on 29 August 2016, 05:21:42 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 28 August 2016, 07:02:22 PM
(...) i like the ACW, hoplites and napoleonics, when we ask what we will play, almost everyone chooses blitzkrieg commander,
(...)

:-\  So you're playing BKC with ACW & Hoplites vs. Napoleonics....?  ???


( sorry...... I couldn't resist !  :D )
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: petercooman on 29 August 2016, 06:56:25 PM
It would explain why i keep losing against panzers  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 31 August 2016, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 28 August 2016, 02:26:01 PM
I think about playing more then actually doing it and certainly  way more then painting.
Mostly I play vicariously through this forum. I like collecting figure, staring at them and imagining them painted. They would win awards of course.

;D =O =D>

Sums it up perfectly!  :-bd

I also play a lot of theoretical RPGs!!  ;)

...although at least I have a painted dungeon for hypothetical monster bashing  :d

Cheers!

Meirion
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Last Hussar on 31 August 2016, 05:41:17 PM
Its very simple

How many figures do you need to paint x painting time per figure.

Divided result by average game length.

That's how many games you need to play to reach 'Break Even'
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Leman on 31 August 2016, 06:03:08 PM
Will they be wearing pink trousers?
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Last Hussar on 31 August 2016, 09:39:03 PM
Sunjesters might
Title: Re: A useful question when planning a new army
Post by: Orcs on 01 September 2016, 08:00:31 AM
Quote from: Leman on 31 August 2016, 06:03:08 PM
Will they be wearing pink trousers?
Quote from: Last Hussar on 31 August 2016, 09:39:03 PM
Sunjesters might

They might, but you have to admit he is more restrained of late