Any plans for Prussian, Saxon or French bandsmen? I'm planning to use a band stand (ho ho) with removable figures to indicate reductions in formation morale. Are there any existing figures apart from the Austrians (which are looking very spiffy) which might be used.
You could always try massed drummers.
Maybe a simple shortening of the. Shako would produce usable Frenchmen in this scale?
Mollinary
And a paint job might produce a Prussian jager band. Or even a French Crimean War band. Also Neapolitans.
Quote from: Leman on 23 August 2016, 04:14:31 PM
Also Neapolitans.
what have small chocolate bars got to do with this or the strawberry, vanilla and chocolate Ice cream?
Stop now, this is a serious enquiry 8)
Bourbons would suit earlier periods. 😈
Here we go ...
There aren't any plans at this stage unfortunately. The Austrian chaps have sold reasonably well, but not really in quantities that would make other sets viable. We'll wait and see what the longer term sales look like and go from there.
8)
I like the pink crispy biscuits
I don't know of any 19th Century bands, I'm not that old. My interest started in the 1970's with Glam and Heavy Rock.
Sorry, but the title was just screaming out for this comment.
MickS
So there you have it folks. If you want little vignettes you have to buy them when they become available, so I shall probably get another one for the French and put them in dress shakos, and at some stage I'm also looking at an Italian army so it could crop up there as well.
I'm surprised no one's suggested Italian nationalists. Surely Garibaldi's would fit?!
Shame they haven't sold too well yet, but I do plan on a pack whenever I next pop an order in!
OK so the Austrians are Austrians, file the shako and we have French, smooth the oak leaves and we have anyone in a shako, its doable.
Two light strokes of a file turn a high tarboosh into a low one.
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: toxicpixie on 24 August 2016, 08:33:15 AM
I'm surprised no one's suggested Italian nationalists. Surely Garibaldi's would fit?!
Shame they haven't sold too well yet, but I do plan on a pack whenever I next pop an order in!
Garibaldis - dead fly biscuits , I am sure Leon would send you a pack of them for £4.95
Quote from: Subedai on 24 August 2016, 07:51:37 AM
I don't know of any 19th Century bands, I'm not that old. My interest started in the 1970's with Glam and Heavy Rock.
Sorry, but the title was just screaming out for this comment.
MickS
I am sure Techno must know of a some - probably was in a few.
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 24 August 2016, 12:53:57 PM
Garibaldis - dead fly biscuits , I am sure Leon would send you a pack of them for £4.95
I can't wait that long! I want them nooooow!
Going to have to go over to the shop in a min if work calls allow :D
They've sold OK, but we were never expecting them to sell in huge numbers. These little projects can only be done here and there as they generally take years to recoup the outlay.
8)
You could always hire them out to do concerts. 😉
Talking of C19th bands, I believe Queen Victoria is due to marry Prince Albert. Nice one Jenna Coleman!
So I've converted - well filed the hats actually - of three sets of bandsmen; the original no modifications are the Austrians, filed flat are the French in kepis, removed oak leaves are Saxons in shakos, filed half way down and at an angle, Prussian Jaeger bandsmen (all complete fiction of course); now its off to Fernando for painting then basing. Since the idea is to use them to represent formation attrition they'll need to be removable so I've bought some magnetic stuff from Magnetic Systems, I'll post photos when they're ready.
I sent Leon a couple of photos of my feeble efforts to produce the Austrians, but my own technical incompetence means I am incapable of posting them here. Leon... Help!
Mollinary
Come on Leon, we're waiting !!!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/One_man_band%2C_CDV_by_Knox%2C_c1865.JPG)
Whilst you're waiting, I found this picture of Techno when he was the band of the Neapolitan Chasseurs di Grimaldi 1862-1863. The unit was formed in the hills to the North of Naples, from goat herds and other such hardy hillmen. Techno had popped out for the Welsh Sunday Post and a quarter of peppermints three months before, turned left instead of right and had eventually found himself expelled from the British consulate in Naples after a disastrous afternoon in the kitchen washing the very expensive crockery - the remains of which can still be seen in the consulate cellars filled under "grrrr".
Techno had wandered into the village of Santa Maria and had misread the recruiting poster as an advert for a free cruise, so had signed up. He stood with the other recruits whilst they were picked by the officers to join their company. Techno was second to last to be picked. He would have been last, but Old Abramo's wooden leg had regrettably given up it's struggle with termites and he had keeled over whilst waiting - swearing all the time that Napoleone had done for him at last.
Techno had undergone the rigorous medical, and when the doctors had stopped laughing, they pointed out his inability for any post in the unit save perhaps tea-boy. This post too was withdrawn when the potential hazard of scalds was pointed out. Eventually, some bright spark appointed Techno to the band. He tried many instruments, and failed with them all. He tore the snare drum. He straightened the serpentine. He de-jingled the johnny. His appointment as first triangle player led to mass resignation of any bandsmen with any musical ability.
Undeterred, Techno decided to be the entire band. Cleverly, the colonel decided that the band should follow rather than lead the regiment, and they were soon setting records for speed marching unsurpassed by any infantry unit - ever. Famously, they overtook the Hussars of the Guard, who could not take their revenge as their well-schooled horses bolted as Techno passed.
The cotton wool crisis caused by the American Civil War, and the resultant lack of ear defence, caused a near mutiny in the Chasseurs di Grimaldi. Regrettably the Colonel decided it was time to become a trappist regiment. Techno was given the unaccustomed homour of leading the regiment, and off he went, blowing and banging and tinkling for all he was worth. At the first crossroads, he turned left, and the regiment - with a combined sigh of relief - turned right.
And that is how Techno became an Austrian knee doctor.
You are SO dead, Nobby ! ;D ;D ;D
OIK !!!
Cheers - Phil
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Here's the preview shots that Mollinary sent through to us:
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Splendid.
Look great to me.
MickS
Wow
Those look great. 8)
Cheers - Phil
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Hardly "feeble efforts", you shouldn't be afraid to blow your own trumpet ;) ;D
Very cool
160 bandsmen winging their way to Fernando, very simple headgear conversions (with a file) have produced Austrain Bands (original) Prussian Bands (in Jaeger green) French Bands and Saxon bands, going to use them to indicate formation attrition (FOB 2 rules) easier than keeping a chit and less prone to 'mistakes'.
Excellent, I'll look forward to seeing some pics of those at some point!
As a FOB2 player I find that idea intriguing. How do you actually intend to use them for formation attrition?
I have based everything to fit in with my modified FOB 2 system, each base represents 3 integrity points, for every 3 point loss of integrity I replace a normal base with a distressed one, it has fewer figures and a few casualties on the ground. For each 3 integrity point loss I remove one bandsman from the band base (the band base depends on nationality, Austrians, Saxons and when we do the FPW, Bavarians will have one band per brigade; depending on how many bases the brigade has determines the number of bandsmen, an Austrian brigade has 18 bases including the brigade battery, so that translates into six bandsmen, a Saxon brigade has 14 bases so we give them 5 bandsmen. The Prussians and the French will have divisional bands of between 11 and 12 figures.
Sounds like a great idea. Usually find keeping track of the divisions and brigades gets forgotten about during play.
Indeed, hence the bandsmen :D
Hope this works. Was in two minds re the bandsmen, each figure represents 3 integrity points, lose three lose a bandsman, dice on leadership card for outcome when depleted. Mounted them initially - front bases, then thought how much easier to base with brigade command figure - back Austrian base. Back base not properly flocked yet, comments please(should have pointed out on magnetic bases).
www.flickr.com/photos/55665103@N03/
Questions like this should be banned!
Good work chap.
I was going to suggest a good one would have been Johann' The Jive' Strauss and the Waltzettes
Didn't think there were any bands till after the Beatles in the 1960's....
You haven't heard of Giovanni di Medici and his Black Band? Henry V and his Band of Brothers? Sherlock Holmes' Speckled Band?
Beatles?
Johny come latelies!
Music didn't exist till Elvis, and except for Zodiac Mindwarp, ceased upon his ascension.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 13 March 2017, 08:38:52 AM
You haven't heard of Giovanni di Medici and his Black Band? Henry V and his Band of Brothers? Sherlock Holmes' Speckled Band?
1) No - but sound Condottiere
2) Invented by one W. Shakespeare - or wuz it C. Marlowe
3) Dat be Snake
IanS
FFS I should have known !!!
Don't you mean FFD# :P
If you could explain the rules and the integrity points, I'm sure it makes sense, and will Beatle all those other ideas. Is this a Cool-an,d-the-Gang idea to eliminate book keeping? After all, A Rolling Stone gathers no moss...
FOB2 (Field of Battle 2), apart from the the casualties, blows to morale etc sustained by individual units, ticking away in the background is the slow attrition of the formation, each time a unit loses a base 3 integrity points are lost ie one bandsman removed from the base, better than a chit and also a visible sign of the formation's slow reduction. I rather like it, ANYWAY, do you think the bases with/without the command figure look better.
I like the back base better, with the mounted officer waving the band on.
OOM-pah-pah, OOM-pah-pah!
Course the be a problem wit bands on't table - they take ALL the casualties....
Capital punishment is too good for some of you lot.
I like them with the command conductor figure.
He's on a horse, so he's probably very fast. You might think he's a...
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wait for it....
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Keep waiting...
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A LIGHTNING CONDUCTOR!
*ahahahahahahahahahahah
I'd make the same joke again, it's so good, but lightning never strikes twice.
If I didn't know Nobby was so over-run with his work at the moment.....I'd be getting him to chew an awful lot of coats.
Sheeeeeesh !! X_X
Cheers - Phil ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTG5RLg-IAM
48 seconds in, can't tell whether its a big dog or a small pony pulling the Pendraken drum cart !
Small horse. :)
Was difficult to tell, until I spotted its tail. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
LOL, you've got a better monitor than me ! It is the cart though.
Ahhh, cracking piece of music. I can't even make out what's pulling the drum at all on the phone screen, dog, pony or pig!