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Title: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: acctingman on 17 August 2016, 07:34:04 PM
Looking at prices for resin Western/Eastern European building in 10mm makes me realize I don't have the money for this and the patience. That's a lot of painting time and I'd rather spend time on my tanks/infantry. At $8+ a building, it's a little bit of a hit to the wallet too.

Anyone here use paper building?

Any sources of free downloads or something on the cheap?

Thanks
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: fsn on 17 August 2016, 07:51:03 PM
What periods are you looking for?

http://www.ss42.com/pt-buildings.html (http://www.ss42.com/pt-buildings.html)
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Ithoriel on 17 August 2016, 08:01:15 PM
Many of my buildings come from charity shops at a pound or so a time and ready painted.

Easier to get things more suited to Rural England or fantasy than the Eastern Front or an industrial estate to be fair but worth a look if you get the chance. 
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Subedai on 17 August 2016, 08:09:30 PM
Like you have found that, like you, resin buildings are a tad on the expensive side but I don't really like paper buildings so I tend to make all my own buildings from cereal packet card. There again, it's something that I enjoy doing so it's no problem for me.

MickS
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Leman on 17 August 2016, 08:15:07 PM
You could have a go at MDF. Supreme Littleness has a good range, some of which is pertinent to the Eastern Front. Also the Escenografia Epsilon buildings from Pendraken are ready painted and very reasonable. Again there is plenty pertinent to the Eastern Front.
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Leon on 17 August 2016, 08:22:00 PM
As Leman says above, some of the Escenografia stuff is probably a good option, as it's pre-painted and very reasonable prices: http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Escenografia-Epsilon-buildings-c34/  The Eastern Front set with the windmill works out at around $6 per building once you've taken off the VAT and added shipping to the US. 
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: petercooman on 17 August 2016, 08:43:32 PM
i use all sorts of buildings togheter and they work fine in my opinion.

For paper buildings i use these:

http://www.grundschule-pretzschendorf.de/en/Our_village/paper_models.html


top: pegasus medel pre painted plastic log house
big L-shaped house: paper model from the site above
ruins by pendraken
building with red roof: pendraken stable model
building at underside of the picture, again from the site above.
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC02906_zps0a12f0c2.jpg)
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Orcs on 17 August 2016, 09:20:03 PM
I can highly recommend the model kits by Metcalfes

http://www.metcalfemodels.com/n-gauge-kits

These go together really well using pva. Get a quick drying pva if you can.

Use a suitable coloured pencil along the white edges during assembly and they look really good.

I can also recommend the Epsilon buildings as good value.  Supreme Littleness Designs are excellent and go together extremely well. the ones I made were some of the best designed MDF kits I have seen.


Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: toxicpixie on 17 August 2016, 10:27:58 PM
Wargames Model Mods has some good 10mm stuff as well, in MDF!

Paper kits - too many to mention, a good google will give you a generous grouping, but buggered if I can remember any off the top of my head... larger/smaller scale printed ones can just be resized at the print stage, which is a handy cheat ;)
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 17 August 2016, 10:33:00 PM
Hello am

I use a lot of paper/card models. Here are some other links:-

http://www.maquettes-papier.net/forumenpapier/topic9428-30.html (http://www.maquettes-papier.net/forumenpapier/topic9428-30.html) (scroll through this thread)
http://paper-replika.com/index.php?option=com_alphacontent&section=10&category=67&Itemid=169 (http://paper-replika.com/index.php?option=com_alphacontent&section=10&category=67&Itemid=169)
http://members.chello.nl/a.wijers/paperbuildings/download.htm (http://members.chello.nl/a.wijers/paperbuildings/download.htm)
http://reseau-st-michel.tumblr.com/telechargements (http://reseau-st-michel.tumblr.com/telechargements)
http://desktopwargames.com/sample-page/ (http://desktopwargames.com/sample-page/)

for eastern front (not much available apart from churches) you can have a look at this:-

http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/free-paper-ukrainian-house-3d-model/642095 (http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/free-paper-ukrainian-house-3d-model/642095) Page has instruction graphics
(http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/2014/07/07__18_25_51/U_H_view_C.jpg196ae802-63de-4357-8fac-7b131c4a7d26Original.jpg)

(http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/2014/07/07__18_25_51/U_H_view_G_map.jpg02177f15-e874-45b3-8438-1785d3b6edf9Original.jpg)
(I'd take the graphic of the bits and flood fill the black with white to cut down on ink)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: toxicpixie on 17 August 2016, 10:36:05 PM
Consider those pinched, GOM, they're some good links and that's a great model :D
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 17 August 2016, 10:41:09 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 17 August 2016, 10:36:05 PM
Consider those pinched, GOM, they're some good links and that's a great model :D

No problems TP.

Other Eastern Front buildings are available but are not free:-

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?cPath=19749_21618 (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?cPath=19749_21618)

Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: acctingman on 17 August 2016, 11:06:29 PM
GoM, thank you so very much.

Appreciate the information all, thanks
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: lentulus on 17 August 2016, 11:15:13 PM
Model railway buildings in plastic are the third way.  Some model railway shops (like my local) buy used sets (mostly from estate sales) and among other things sell the buildings at a good discount.
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 August 2016, 12:09:52 AM
Or go the 6mm resin route.
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 August 2016, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 18 August 2016, 12:09:52 AM
Or go the 6mm resin route.

Wendy Houses :)
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Leman on 18 August 2016, 05:15:53 AM
But go it anyway. 6mm buildings look fine with 10mm figures and give a smaller footprint, viz:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20SYW/IMG_0986_zps8a1eeb13.jpg)

Some of those shown are paper as well and have seen active service over the past 20 years. They seem to do ok once they are based.
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 August 2016, 08:54:55 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 18 August 2016, 12:29:16 AM
Wendy Houses :)

At my age, the Peter Pan option has its appeal!
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Leman on 18 August 2016, 01:31:51 PM
I'm beginning to get a little worried about Ithoriel's obsession with Wendy. He is rumoured to be shadowing her.
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 August 2016, 01:40:35 PM
I think he's actually just interested in her house. He is an estate agent or double glazing salesman, right?
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Leman on 18 August 2016, 02:37:31 PM
Whatever he is, his ideas should be panned.
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 August 2016, 03:51:08 PM
You know what they say, small houses, small ... minds :P

Just looks weird to me.

Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Orcs on 18 August 2016, 06:53:46 PM
I normally use the correct scale houses but cannot see a problem with  having houses a scale smaller works well, particularly for big battles, otherwise the villages, farms can be to close to each other.

So I suppose you could say I am in both camps


Perhaps Ithoriel needs to have "big houses" in the same way some men need "big cars" :)

Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 August 2016, 07:04:26 PM
I need my houses and .... cars in proper proportion ;)
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: mollinary on 18 August 2016, 07:07:08 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 18 August 2016, 07:04:26 PM
I need my houses and .... cars in proper proportion ;)

But not the number of men in your units?  We all make compromises somewhere - leaving aside your cars  :D. How big are your houses on the horizontal scale?

Mollinary
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 August 2016, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 18 August 2016, 07:07:08 PM
But not the number of men in your units?  We all make compromises somewhere - leaving aside your cars  :D. How big are your houses on the horizontal scale?

Mollinary

That's pretty much my argument in a nutshell. If your battalions are 24 figures strong then a single house model is a village of around 30 - 40 buildings.

So, 10mm figures, 10mm houses. 6mm figures, 6mm houses. 28mm figures ... too big, way too expensive and take up too much room on table and off :) 
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: mollinary on 18 August 2016, 07:32:22 PM
Interesting!  I could no more have a single building represent a village than I could have a single figure represent a battalion.  Each to their own.  A propos of nothing, how tall are your trees, and how many make a wood?   :-\

Mollinary
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 August 2016, 09:44:29 PM
Trees are ... tree sized. Anything from 15' or so up to 100' to scale normally.

One tree is a small copse, several trees are a wood.

Simples
Title: Re: 10mm buildings....resin or paper
Post by: Leman on 19 August 2016, 07:41:21 AM
Just can't seem to get him Hooked on small houses, the little Tinker!