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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: shireman on 09 August 2016, 04:13:11 PM

Title: polish winged hussars
Post by: shireman on 09 August 2016, 04:13:11 PM
Can anyone advise on how to attach the wings in such a way that they stay attached? I am having no success using superglue alone. Many thanks.
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: Leon on 09 August 2016, 05:31:48 PM
I always find superglue a nightmare to work with, but that might just be me!  Firstly, there should be a small groove in the back of the figure, so I'd run a blade/pointy thing through there to make sure it's clear.  I'd also give the lower internal arch of the wings a quick file to better fit the groove.  With superglue, one tip I've heard other people use is to breath slightly on the parts before joining them, as the moisture in your breath will activate the superglue and make it bond quicker. 

Other than that, you can also try siting the wing a little lower so that it sits on the back of the saddle.  I think when Karl did the figures for the website, he might have pulled the lance over a touch so that the wing sat against it at the top, to give another anchor point:

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/P1.JPG)
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: fsn on 09 August 2016, 05:35:18 PM
A dusting of baking powder on one surface, superglue on the other.

I learned that on this forum, and stap me, it seems to work!
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: Matt J on 09 August 2016, 05:48:24 PM
Yep, baking powder works pretty instantly.
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: d_Guy on 09 August 2016, 06:50:03 PM
I was going to suggest superglue to hold in place followed in about fifteen minutes with superglue gel worked in along the seam with a toothpick. I've had good results but the baking soda seems way more elegant. We'll have to try it also.
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: Fenton on 09 August 2016, 07:07:59 PM
A bit if green stuff in the hole and super glue will hold them rigid. I use the baking powder technique but I think the greenstuff gives a stronger bond
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: shireman on 09 August 2016, 07:57:00 PM
Thanks to all of you for the helpful hints. I'll be buying baking powder tomorrow!
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: Techno on 09 August 2016, 08:33:15 PM
Wait......Look in the back of your food cupboard, first ;)

That's the sort of thing I find there....Along with unused flour and prehistoric biscuits.
(And of course the tins of soup.....for emergencies....That have a "best before" date, sometime last century.)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: Subedai on 09 August 2016, 09:25:05 PM
I just superglued the wing so that the bottom was flat against the saddle, the wing ran up the back and was also superglued to the lance...that is why my husaria standard bearers don't have wings. Actually, most aficionados reckon the husaria didn't wear the wings in combat so leaving them off is also an option; but then again what's the point of having wingless husaria? Most of mine do, it's just the odd one without.

Attached as shown on chap on far right in pic.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CXHhsq3xxTc/VxPsqBk66WI/AAAAAAAABGA/Aa3Aec6HE6MKyqJ0c9QPUDqF1yGhRaSxACLcB/s1600/Renaissance%2BPolish%2B10mm%2B009e2.jpg)


And all done without the aid of baking powder.


MickS
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: FierceKitty on 10 August 2016, 01:15:59 AM
Superglue and patience, then a touch of quickset epoxy, which does the real job long term. Also a good idea to make separate lances from sturdy wire, attach pennants first and reinforce them with epoxy, then use them to replace the cast-on white metal versions, which are much less durable. These days I always attach my own lances (in other armies too); and I've nearly finished replacing all the ones I neglected to give this treatment in my heedless youth.
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 August 2016, 06:20:17 AM
Superglue, patience and much swearing.

IanS
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: shireman on 10 August 2016, 09:02:42 AM
Many thanks for the further suggestions here. I'll be trying them out. Thanks, too, for the advice regarding lances.
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: shireman on 13 August 2016, 01:38:48 PM
Baking powder, superglue and a wee touch of liquid green stuff to mak siccar and I have achieved what I thought would be reached via hysteria-inducing nightmare with no fuss at all. Thank you all very much.
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 August 2016, 12:54:45 AM
One picture is worth a thousand words, I'm told....
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: shireman on 15 August 2016, 04:39:27 PM
Best shot I have at the moment. Not v good.
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 August 2016, 04:52:23 PM
But the painting is!
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: d_Guy on 15 August 2016, 05:19:02 PM
I think it looks very good Shireman. The colours to me are realistic, nice job.
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: Subedai on 15 August 2016, 06:02:43 PM
Perfectly acceptable little chap in my opinion.

MickS
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: shireman on 15 August 2016, 08:36:20 PM
Thanks for the kind comments. I really enjoyed painting him.
Title: Re: polish winged hussars
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 August 2016, 11:26:33 PM
You are too hard on yourself!