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Title: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 04:03:46 AM
Long way to go yet, but so far....The Prussian staff, reading left to right: Ziethen, Private Milecovic, Schwerin, Frederick, Biche, Seydlitz, and Dessauer. Austrians: Browne, Lucchesi, Private Rackozy, Esterhazy, Daun, and Haddik.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 04:05:18 AM
Some of the artillery. That 12 pdr looks frightening in this scale.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 04:06:51 AM
The Emperor's hussars and the Bethlen hussars.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 04:09:55 AM
Nadasty hussars, and, going north, the von Ruesch hussars. Note that the flag is authentic. Prussian hussars didn't carry colours in the field, but an exception was made for these chaps, who were allowed to carry a captured French standard. Since they went on to break an Austrian cuirassier regiment, I trust they also got a good pension scheme!
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 04:11:11 AM
The unpronouncable von Szekely regiment, and von Wechmar's too.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 04:13:12 AM
The Franciscus le Noble Freikorps rifles going over the hills and far away, with two Croatian Grenzer units to stop them.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 04:14:56 AM
Closer views of the Austrian pandours. The little guns were actually issued to Grenzer units; here, the Warasdiener-Creutzer, and the Gradisca.
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Post by: Techno on 31 July 2016, 06:30:59 AM
Nice stuff, Kitty.

I'll mail you later about a query (or two) regarding the Aztecs.

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 06:53:12 AM
I'm all ears.
Yous, Dumbo.
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Post by: fred. on 31 July 2016, 06:55:25 AM
Blimey, lots of troops! Always good to see named units, and I assume with the correct coloured uniforms?
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 07:00:19 AM
As far as possible. Sources more learned than I call each other liars, historical records differ, and there are details which elude my brush; but I'm trying to get it reasonably right.
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Post by: petercooman on 31 July 2016, 07:13:21 AM
Nice!

What do you use for your bases? hem always appear very thin  :-\
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 07:16:09 AM
Cardboard with a layer of epoxy glue. In a few cases I've explored including a length of paper clip wire as well, lest the bases warp. I don't flock, since I think if your cloth doesn't have a matching texture this draws attention to the bases, rather than increasing realism. Perhaps someday I'll find a suitable textured gaming cloth and need to redo the whole nine yards. :(
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: Techno on 31 July 2016, 07:27:06 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 06:53:12 AM
I'm all ears.
Yous, Dumbo.

Test message for Dumbo on its way.   ;)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 07:27:43 AM
It's got to me.
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Post by: Norm on 31 July 2016, 07:40:44 AM
Nice touch giving the hussars the captured flag.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 07:41:36 AM
I'll tell Fritz when I see him again.
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Post by: Leman on 31 July 2016, 07:53:07 AM
Good looking array of troops.
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: petercooman on 31 July 2016, 07:59:28 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 07:16:09 AM
Cardboard with a layer of epoxy glue. In a few cases I've explored including a length of paper clip wire as well, lest the bases warp. I don't flock, since I think if your cloth doesn't have a matching texture this draws attention to the bases, rather than increasing realism. Perhaps someday I'll find a suitable textured gaming cloth and need to redo the whole nine yards. :(

Works pretty good  :-bd

DOn't worry about flocking though, that goes on fairly quick!
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2016, 08:02:12 AM
Very odd, really; no heavy infantry or heavy cavalry yet (be starting on those soon).
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 July 2016, 08:22:44 AM
Nice
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Post by: nikharwood on 31 July 2016, 09:59:29 PM
Quote from: Norm on 31 July 2016, 07:40:44 AM
Nice touch giving the hussars the captured flag.

Yep. That's very coolio 8)
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 August 2016, 10:57:43 AM
Some more SYW. All the Austrian grenadiers (no flags :(), 25% of their musketeers, and von Petrowski's uhlans, who look a bit smarter than the photograph shews.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 14 August 2016, 11:05:12 AM
Kalnein musketeers, and the amazing 5th (von Bayreuth) dragoons. At Hohenfriedburg they took 67 (count 'em!) Austrian and Saxon standards. I don't care who complains that doing Prussians and Austrians is a SYW cliche!
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 August 2016, 11:13:26 AM
My better half set up the shot, which explains why the grenadiers are lagging behind the musketeers. This is four battalions, all German; there will be three more German and three more foreign (Hungarian and Italian) battalions eventually, with eleven for the Prussians (one being Freikorps, who don't really count).
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: Leman on 14 August 2016, 01:31:21 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 14 August 2016, 11:05:12 AM
Kalnein musketeers, and the amazing 5th (von Bayreuth) dragoons. At Hohenfriedburg they took 67 (count 'em!) Austrian and Saxon standards. I don't care who complains that doing Prussians and Austrians is a SYW cliche!
TBH I have always preferred the eastern to the western theatre. My next army will be the Russians.
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 August 2016, 02:06:36 PM
Russkies are tough and have superb artillery, but their hussar uniforms don't look as good, imffho.
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Post by: Leman on 14 August 2016, 03:36:32 PM
.....but there is so much red - a real red army.
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 August 2016, 04:13:03 PM
Very cool!
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Post by: Bunny on 21 August 2016, 07:30:48 AM
Very nice I look forward to following the progress of this project
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Post by: FierceKitty on 21 August 2016, 07:48:26 AM
So do I! My work week is so inhuman that I'm painting verrrrrrry slowly. :(
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Post by: FierceKitty on 28 August 2016, 08:33:18 AM
Prussian regular dragoons are done; now for another brave session on the production line turning out three new units of Prussian musketeers.
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 September 2016, 01:42:36 PM
Austrian regular dragoons done. There abide yet the following to be painted:
Prussians - two units cuirassiers, 1 unit grenadier dragoons, 2 units regular musketeers, 1 unit Freikorps musketeers, camp.
Austrians - three units cuirassiers, 6 units musketeers, camp.

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Post by: mollinary on 30 September 2016, 02:09:33 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what are grenadier dragoons?  And why are so many of the musketeers camp?

Mollinary
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 September 2016, 02:15:26 PM
Dragoons in bearskin caps. I daresay the point was that since they'd recently been infantry, they might as well keep a few reminders. Not much used by the Prussians, but there was one unit.
As for their lack of butchness, in an age where the officers used curlers and a man was very likely to wear make-up....
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: toxicpixie on 30 September 2016, 03:57:13 PM
A man's not properly dressed without lace, ruffles, make up and some silks and brocade!

Don't get distracted, FK, keep going!
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Post by: cameronian on 30 September 2016, 04:28:02 PM
Romanian infantry officers in WWI abjured from wearing eye liner  :o
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Post by: toxicpixie on 30 September 2016, 06:25:33 PM
The horror! Truly a most terrible conflict. Next you'll tell me someone on the Western Front was seen loosening their tie!
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Post by: FierceKitty on 11 October 2016, 03:20:47 PM
The Prussian army is painted and based. Still some number of Austrians to go, but they're a bit faster, thanks to the miracle of white aerosol spray.
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Post by: cameronian on 11 October 2016, 04:55:52 PM
Photos please.
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Post by: Roy on 11 October 2016, 06:16:01 PM
 =D> I certainly applaud anyone who can paint up two such armies. I'd never have the commitment or dedication to get the project even a quarter finished [I just need to look at my own 10mm ACW or Zombies.]

I quite like the basing. As you say, it works well with the plainer base cloth. 
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2016, 12:57:10 AM
I'll post a few pix when my wife's here to help with her greater tech-savvy. In case I've given the wrong idea, I haven't tried to do the whole Prussian army for Leuthen!
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Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2016, 04:12:15 AM
The whole force deployed, with too few reserves as usual.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2016, 04:13:45 AM
The right wing, with cuirassiers and grenadiers; guess where the punch is coming? There were a few standing grenadier regiments, so the colours are not an oversight.
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2016, 04:15:44 AM
The left wing, covered by hussars and dragoons.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2016, 04:17:06 AM
The Freikorps, reminding everyone that Prussian efficiency is not universal! The regimental title, Quintus Icilius, for those who don't know the tale, came about when the king had a disagreement with Charles Guiscard about a certain Roman officer of that name. After they'd consulted the books, and Frederick had been proved wrong, he got his revenge by appointing his friend commander of this unit under the disputed name.
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2016, 04:21:58 AM
I owe Leon serious thanks for casting all these officer figures for me, so that my cuirassiers could have a more dashing and heroic look to them. Note the vexillium with the guards is not a mistake, though I've exaggerated the size a bit; and they did actually wear polished steel breastplates, unlike most. Von Kleist irregular horse grenadiers and some Bosniak lancers in support.
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Post by: Techno on 12 October 2016, 05:59:56 AM
 8)

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 October 2016, 06:37:58 AM
Good work FK, now, how about the opponents?
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Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2016, 06:57:46 AM
Under the brush.
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 October 2016, 07:54:12 AM
Misread that as under the bush!
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2016, 08:11:55 AM
Well, that Prussian platoon firing is frightening!
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Post by: Westmarcher on 12 October 2016, 09:24:17 AM
Great progress, FK.  :-bd   (it took me nearly two years to paint two reasonably sized armies!). At this rate, will we some action before Christmas?
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Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2016, 09:36:11 AM
Hope so, but off to Italy on 14th December....
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Post by: Womble67 on 12 October 2016, 10:54:33 AM
looking good

Take care

Andy
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Post by: cameronian on 12 October 2016, 01:32:11 PM
Very nice, thank you for sharing.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 16 October 2016, 08:23:29 AM
Austrian army now the stronger for the Emmanuel von Starhemberg foot and the O'Donell (really!) cuirassiers.
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Post by: cameronian on 17 October 2016, 06:53:54 AM
Why the 'really' FK, plenty of Irish serving with the Austrians, FM Browne springs to mind.
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Post by: toxicpixie on 17 October 2016, 08:24:03 AM
Was there a European army that DIDN'T have the Wild Geese nesting somewhere in it's ranks?!
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Post by: FierceKitty on 17 October 2016, 09:41:16 AM
Quote from: cameronian on 17 October 2016, 06:53:54 AM
Why the 'really' FK, plenty of Irish serving with the Austrians, FM Browne springs to mind.


I know that, you know that, but I'll bet there are many who don't know that.
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Post by: cameronian on 17 October 2016, 10:38:30 AM
You sound like a Latin primer, I know, you (singular) know, he, she or it knows, we know ...  ;D
Good point though, sometimes I forget.
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Post by: Ithoriel on 17 October 2016, 12:08:41 PM
"Little do they know how little I know about the little they know. If only I knew what the little that they know, I'd know a little. I'll have to keep my little ears open you know. " - Neddie Seagoon  :D
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Post by: FierceKitty on 17 October 2016, 12:22:34 PM
...or you might end up not knowing what they think you think they are thinking.
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Post by: cameronian on 17 October 2016, 04:49:28 PM
We need to stop this now ...
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Post by: Leman on 17 October 2016, 05:35:41 PM
I saw Esau sitting on a seesaw.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 21 October 2016, 11:23:44 PM
The Jung-Modena cuirassiers are done, and there is already paint on the Anhalt-Zerbst regiment, and on the Pallavicini musketeers (yes, I know those decadent southerners called them "fusiliers". I took quite a bit of painting along with me to work yesterday (we're required to clock in a certain number of hours a week - then they wonder why nobody lifts a finger to do any research!).
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Post by: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 04:27:13 AM
Ugh. I hate the way one can't correct clumsy posts an hour later!
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Post by: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 04:27:44 AM
Saturday morning. A devoted pacifist, Sebastian is doing his furry best to prevent the Seven Years War from starting by hindering the painting of the Austrian army.
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Post by: Techno on 22 October 2016, 05:16:01 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 04:27:13 AM
Ugh. I hate the way one can't correct clumsy posts an hour later!

I can......Any time......Anyone's.

Is Sebastian a Siamese ?
I don't think I've ever seen a cat of that particular breed with such dark colouring

Cheers -
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Post by: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 06:07:09 AM
Well, I bought him at Chatuchak market in Bangkok, so in one sense he's very Siamese. I remember a neighbour in Cape Town once knocked on the door to announce that "a sort of Siamese" was trying to jump the rather high wall around my mum's garden; I resisted the urge to ask if he meant Lee (who's also from central Thailand, aka Siam, but of Chinese ancestry).

Returning to your query, he doesn't have true Siamese points; he's closer to the breed known as a snowshoes. A bit unusual here, but not unknown; I was once carrying him to the vet for a checkup and a neighbour rushed out to show me her virtually identical kitty. The colour is described here as see sawat, meaning something like seal-coloured.  Real Siamese attached for comparison:
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 October 2016, 06:38:41 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 04:27:44 AM
Saturday morning. A devoted pacifist, Sebastian is doing his furry best to prevent the Seven Years War from starting by hindering the painting of the Austrian army.
Cute!
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Post by: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 06:42:31 AM
Oh, I am.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 09:56:51 AM
Viola, on the other hand, is actively anti-Hapsburg; she keeps knocking over the centre companies of the Pallavicini regiment with her chin.
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Post by: Techno on 22 October 2016, 10:44:48 AM
Cute ?...You ?..Nah. ;)

Thanks for the pointers on the cat's 'breed', FK.....Thought that was slightly unusual colouring.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: Techno on 22 October 2016, 10:44:48 AM
Cute ?...You ?..Nah. ;)


Are you calling Lemmey a liar?

Viola, btw, is Sebastian's sister.

Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: fsn on 22 October 2016, 11:34:07 AM
The witch's familiar!
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Post by: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 11:54:42 AM
Is she?
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Post by: FierceKitty on 23 October 2016, 07:57:59 AM
Austrian cuirassiers are plunging and rearing impatiently. Two units of Hungarians await my attention, while my wife is doing the last Germans. The end is no longer unthinkably distant.
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Post by: Leman on 23 October 2016, 11:23:32 AM
Oh cripes! and I've just got out my 1509-ish Papal army in 28mm to give it  a look at as a not very distant future project. Could be several months before they go up against the Milanese.
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Post by: cameronian on 24 October 2016, 10:36:23 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 22 October 2016, 11:54:42 AM
Is she?

;D  ;D  ;D
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Post by: holdfast on 25 October 2016, 02:16:43 PM
So having spent so many months on painting the little chaps, how many minutes will you spend on getting the terrain correct?
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Post by: FierceKitty on 26 October 2016, 12:39:12 AM
I've had the terrain for ages; I'm converting to 10mm from 6mm, which is the scale all right-thinking gamers use with 10mm figures anyway, not that I'm pointing fingers at anyone, Ithoriel.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 26 October 2016, 12:51:50 AM
My day off again; I think there's a good chance I'll finish the Austrians today.
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Post by: Leman on 26 October 2016, 07:11:58 AM
Well done that man. I will also get a clear run at stuff this afternoon.
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Post by: Ithoriel on 26 October 2016, 09:51:29 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 26 October 2016, 12:39:12 AM
I've had the terrain for ages; I'm converting to 10mm from 6mm, which is the scale all right-thinking gamers use with 10mm figures anyway, not that I'm pointing fingers at anyone, Ithoriel.

If you lot want your troops brawling over doll's houses that's entirely your affair. I prefer figures and buildings in scale, where possible. If 24 figures are a battalion, one house is a village or small town.
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 26 October 2016, 10:10:20 AM
Is it true that one country is now the EU, according to UK opinion?
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Post by: Leman on 26 October 2016, 10:31:20 AM
Oh please don't get me started. Nobody, including the leading politicians, appears to know what is going on. The referendum seems to have been the result of a massive protest coupled with a swathe of misinformation, disinformation and just plain ignorance. If you elect politicians to represent your interests then let them get on with it. Don't put major decisions into the hands of a semi-literate populous.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 26 October 2016, 10:35:24 AM
If that's the case in the UK, where education and awareness standards are relatively high, most of the world is in real trouble.
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Post by: Leman on 26 October 2016, 04:42:44 PM
Indeed it is - grow a beard or we'll cut your head off, as commanded by an invisible man in the sky.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 26 October 2016, 11:28:38 PM
All real men have beards anyway. :)
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Post by: Leman on 27 October 2016, 07:05:50 AM
True enough, so when the big takeover happens I should be safe enough.
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Post by: toxicpixie on 27 October 2016, 08:17:37 AM
Personally I think it all went wrong when young men started getting funny haircuts and stopped honouring the gods. Everyone's writing a book, as well!

As to modern music, it's all just noise.

Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: Leman on 27 October 2016, 01:28:42 PM
I'm with Aristotle on this one.
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 29 October 2016, 02:31:55 AM
It is my honour to inform Her Imperial Majesty, and other interested parties, that the Austrian army is now painted, and eager to be unleashed at the throat of the Marquise of Brandenburg tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: Leman on 29 October 2016, 07:56:19 AM
Looking forward to hearing how that goes.
Title: Re: Leuthen project
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 November 2016, 11:55:38 AM
More tomorrow.