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Wider Wargaming => Resources => Resources - Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Druzhina on 28 July 2016, 05:48:41 AM

Title: 6th-7th century Persian archers
Post by: Druzhina on 28 July 2016, 05:48:41 AM
6th-7th century Persian archers
Archer in a wall hanging with figures in persian dress, late 6th–early 7th century, Benaki Museum, Athens (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Wall_Hanging-Benaki.htm)
Archer on 'Khusraw's Dial', a silver plate from Klimova with Sasanian enthronement scene, 7th century. Hermitage Museum S-43 (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Klimova_enthronement_plate.htm)
These are perhaps houshold archers. The Sasanian reliefs of Taq-i-Bustan, has an Arrow Bearer in a Royal Boat at a Boar Hunt (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/Persia/Taq-i-Bustan_XV-Boar_Hunt-Arrow_Bearer.htm) has very ornate dress.
The headwear on 'Khusraw's Dial' may be a patterned textile hat with a cloth wrapped around it like the wall hanging or on the horse-archer on the left in a battle between Arabs, Persians and Ethiopians. Coptic textile fragment, Egypt, late 6th or early 7th century, Louvre (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Coptic-Textile-Battle-Louvre.htm), rather than a helmet.
A similar cloth can be seen on the horse archer in a floor painting with hunting scene, Umayyad, Qasr al-Hayr al-Gharbi c.724-43AD (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Qasr_al-Hayr_al-Gharbi-Horse_archer.htm)

Druzhina
Ancient Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/Ancient/Ancient.htm)
Title: Re: 6th-7th century Persian archers
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 July 2016, 07:15:10 AM
Those are beautiful, I love the plate.
Title: Re: 6th-7th century Persian archers
Post by: Techno on 28 July 2016, 09:54:01 AM
Plate IS nice.

I just wish we could see some of the pieces 'restored'....Or artistic interpretations by experts, shown next to the originals.

Still, very worth while showing 'what's left'....Good finds again, D.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 6th-7th century Persian archers
Post by: Orcs on 28 July 2016, 10:32:56 AM
Quote from: Techno on 28 July 2016, 09:54:01 AM
Plate IS nice.

I just wish we could see some of the pieces 'restored'

Surely you could have looked at the originals when they were made? :)
Title: Re: 6th-7th century Persian archers
Post by: Druzhina on 30 July 2016, 06:20:10 AM
Quote from: Techno on 28 July 2016, 09:54:01 AM
Plate IS nice.

I just wish we could see some of the pieces 'restored'....Or artistic interpretations by experts, shown next to the originals.

Still, very worth while showing 'what's left'....Good finds again, D.

Cheers - Phil

Some authors do this. Some list sources, but in Osprey publications the more sources they list the more likely their reconstruction is fantasy. Books sometimes don't show an image of a source because they would have to pay for photography so you get more B&W author's photos instead.  The reconstructions are usually copyright so you shouldn't get more than a extract on the web.   I have put up some, an example is:
Mural of Saint Mercurius in Ohrid, Macedonia, c.1295AD. The church of St. Clement and St. Panteleimon in Ohrid and reconstruction by Angus McBride (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/13/Ohrid-Mural-Saint_Mercurius.htm)

Druzhina
Byzantine Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/Byzantine.htm)
Title: Re: 6th-7th century Persian archers
Post by: Techno on 30 July 2016, 10:16:37 AM
And THAT is awesome.
(I understand exactly what you're saying.)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 6th-7th century Persian archers
Post by: nikharwood on 31 July 2016, 09:55:05 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 July 2016, 07:15:10 AM
Those are beautiful, I love the plate.

Yep. Me too :)