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Title: Small scenic bases
Post by: Leon on 18 July 2016, 01:38:35 PM
When we released the new resin hedges, O Dinas Powys asked:

Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 05 July 2016, 11:37:10 AM
Any chance of some isolated clumps and bushes?  :-\

... So the question is what other things would people like to see, and what size? 

We've got John working on a few clumps of bushes for us, on circular bases of between 20mm-30mm, so while he's doing that we thought we might as well see what else people would want.

Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Bodvoc on 18 July 2016, 02:23:30 PM
How about a broken section of fence or a broken gate, perhaps with a road sign on.
Also a model plinth in 10mm scale to add our own statues to?
Full and broken columns...there must be many more ideas?
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Wulf on 18 July 2016, 02:37:04 PM
Statues, plinths, fountains (small water dispensers or large decorative), horse troughs, pissoirs (Pendraken: the only company that makes 10mm scale pissoirs), menhirs, *cough* Police boxes *cough*, classic BT phone boxes...
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Leman on 18 July 2016, 03:46:10 PM
Wrecked guns, carts and wagons, wayside cross, well.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: fred. on 18 July 2016, 06:01:33 PM
Like all the ideas above.

Postboxes could be another option. Different eras and nationalites too. You could start getting into stuff for model railways this way too!!

Pallets, piles of boxes or crates.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: mollinary on 18 July 2016, 06:28:13 PM
I think there is already a plinth (George Washington?) and certainly there are cases, boxes, barrels, piles of roundshot, etc scattered around existing ranges. Wrecked guns and wagons would be good, but they are not exactly difficult to make (even for a fat fingered idiot like me) from guns and wagons!  What about telegram poles, useable from 1866-ish onwards?

Mollinary
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 July 2016, 06:44:28 PM
Pots, pithoi and amphorae. They ranged in size from domestic cookware to things a tall man could stand in and not be visible from outside. They were the ancient equivalent of the barrel and yet they're almost impossible to find as wargames scenery. A nice cluster of them or a number of individuals (or both) would be useful.

(http://toplou-honey.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/1325674_orig.jpg)

Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: fsn on 18 July 2016, 07:35:19 PM
I've got post boxes, skips and telephone boxes from railway suppliers at a quite reasonable price.

Ladders. I've tried making siege ladders and ... it wasn't a happy experience.

I'd like to see Techno's animals released.

Also some 10mm farm animals would be good.

Haystacks? Suitable for hiding the new Jagdpanther in.  (I realise taht leaves us open to a discussion about how various cultures built haystacks, but I ain't that fussy.)

Fences (rather than boundary hedges)



 


Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Leman on 18 July 2016, 09:50:22 PM
Didn't know you were into Animals' Rights,
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Leon on 18 July 2016, 10:37:34 PM
Thanks for all the replies, I'll pass those onto John.  A lot of those would need to be done in metal though, so are there any more natural/scenery type things people would like?
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 July 2016, 11:10:58 PM
Not a small scenic base but a building I'd like to see would be a small wooden Russian church - something suitable for Napoleonic to WW2 or beyond.

To give a rough idea of what I'm meaning

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5f/c4/1b/5fc41bb961af74c32a20422b2dad2c05.jpg)(http://at-web.org/holiday-travel-online/images/photo-Kizhi-island-church-pics-hh_df1694949.jpg)(https://04varvara.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/00-lake-vuoksa-church-06-russia-15-12-14.jpg?w=1200&h=800)
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Leon on 18 July 2016, 11:29:38 PM
That could be one for the future, John's currently working on a new Antietam church to replace the old one.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 July 2016, 11:35:02 PM
Actually the Antietam church with an onion dome, as in the first couple of pictures, instead of the square section bell tower (or whatever it is) would probably do the job nicely. Possible to do a twofer?
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Leon on 18 July 2016, 11:57:31 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 18 July 2016, 11:35:02 PM
Actually the Antietam church with an onion dome, as in the first couple of pictures, instead of the square section bell tower (or whatever it is) would probably do the job nicely. Possible to do a twofer?

Possibly, we'll have a look at that once it's been finished, could be a go-er.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: FierceKitty on 19 July 2016, 12:48:23 AM
Leven make a church rather like that, if you're ok with 1:300 buildings.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: FierceKitty on 19 July 2016, 12:58:36 AM
Ah, and ladders would certainly be welcome additions, though I'm not sure about materials. Fragility seems a problem.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Ithoriel on 19 July 2016, 08:39:01 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 19 July 2016, 12:48:23 AM
Leven make a church rather like that, if you're ok with 1:300 buildings.

Wendy houses!  :D
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Nosher on 19 July 2016, 09:34:04 AM
Quote from: Leon on 18 July 2016, 10:37:34 PM
Thanks for all the replies, I'll pass those onto John.  A lot of those would need to be done in metal though, so are there any more natural/scenery type things people would like?

Hedgerows with different gates, one including a stile would be good

Scruffier hedges.... differing heights in sections with some small gaps or broken areas within the section

Hedgerows with exposed fences within the hedges

Haystacks also gets my vote.

Streams with decent banks. I've had multiple tries at making streams all of which have been crap :( If one could be made with a ford that would be lovely and similarly one that could accommodate the pendraken wooden bridge....

A village pond? With a fountain in it?

Small coppices?

Manure piles?

Patches of gardened ground - like those found on allotments with veg growing.....

Flowerbeds

You did ask :P
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: fsn on 19 July 2016, 11:52:57 AM
I did get allotments from ... um ... they're quite good ... from ...

Nope. I'll have to check it out when I get home.   :(
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 July 2016, 12:54:10 PM
Timecast?
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Norm on 19 July 2016, 01:20:18 PM
Shell holes, say sized between 1 penny and 2 pence pieces.

and 10cm x 10cm fields, some ploughed and some with waist high wheat. Or do them a size that allows them to be mated with your walls and hedges.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Wulf on 19 July 2016, 03:17:22 PM
Small shell holes (10-30mm diameter in loose clusters) and a couple of bigger ones 30-50mm would be handy as markers & as covering terrain, although they're relatively easy to make!
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: fred. on 19 July 2016, 04:05:45 PM
Haystacks / hay ricks etc would be handy.
Shell holes too.

With some of the stuff that already exists as individual metal items (such as boxes) it would be handy to have larger piles of them in resin, to act as terrain. Whereas the metal ones are more useful to add to vehicles or bases to give a bit of character.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: bradpitre on 19 July 2016, 06:56:43 PM
Good evening!!
an idea not very cheerful, but that would be very helpful with the walls for example,
- tombs to cemetery
- A small chapel
- a well
- A watering hole
- A city fountain
- Barriers of different types
- High hedges like Norman Boccage
- Rubble elements to put against a ruined house
- The stack of cut wood or tree trunk for our forests

surely more to come for ideas ......
eric
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: mollinary on 19 July 2016, 07:10:55 PM
Quote from: bradpitre on 19 July 2016, 06:56:43 PM
Good evening!!


- The stack of cut wood or tree trunk for our forests

surely more to come for ideas ......
eric

Cut wood stacks already exist, produced last year to help reproduce the Swiepwald battle of 1866, and they are beautiful!

Mollinary
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: mollinary on 19 July 2016, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 19 July 2016, 07:10:55 PM
Cut wood stacks already exist, produced last year to help reproduce the Swiepwald battle of 1866, and they are beautiful!

Mollinary

FPX3 and FPX4 in the 19th Century Accessories Category.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: nikharwood on 19 July 2016, 10:12:49 PM
Some *great* ideas here....so, I'll say, "all of the above" ;)
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Dazza on 31 July 2016, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: nikharwood on 19 July 2016, 10:12:49 PM
Some *great* ideas here....so, I'll say, "all of the above" ;)

as Nik said................

Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: petercooman on 31 July 2016, 06:30:33 PM
Quote from: Norm on 19 July 2016, 01:20:18 PM
Shell holes, say sized between 1 penny and 2 pence pieces.

and 10cm x 10cm fields, some ploughed and some with waist high wheat. Or do them a size that allows them to be mated with your walls and hedges.


Maybe Leon could stock a couple of these?:

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC03828_zpswnufleeo.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/DSC03828_zpswnufleeo.jpg.html)

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC03823_zpsussaw0we.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/DSC03823_zpsussaw0we.jpg.html)

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC03824_zpsr9bfgmit.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/DSC03824_zpsr9bfgmit.jpg.html)


They are from ironclad and work just great for 10 mm. Labeled as 'small craters'/ They have big craters too, but didn't get those.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 November 2016, 12:30:56 PM
Resin cactus would be good. Both the giant Arizona types and prickly pear.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 19 November 2016, 12:18:53 AM
Lengths of something that looks like 'snake rail' fence would be a real go'er for ACW...needn't be too high or perfect...(rails taken for firewood/battered down, etc.)...just the effect of a fence.

Small bog pools...pools surrounded by 'reedy' edging. Could be scattered to indicate boggy ground rather than the defined marsh areas available elsewhere.

Generic foxholes...empty to allow cut down troops to be inserted or left abandoned.
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Leon on 22 November 2016, 02:08:59 AM
We've been chatting about rail fences for some time now, but they're a pain to do in resin.  John at Ironclad is working on some test pieces so once we've got something robust enough for retail, we'll let everyone know.

8)
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 November 2016, 07:34:07 AM
Easy if tedious to make - using match sticks.

IanS
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Wulf on 22 November 2016, 09:11:28 AM
In 10mm scale? You must use really really thin matches...
Title: Re: Small scenic bases
Post by: Westmarcher on 22 November 2016, 09:29:41 AM
Quote from: Leon on 22 November 2016, 02:08:59 AM
... rail fences .... they're a pain to do in resin. 

I can well imagine. But you have to get it right.* It may be an over simplification but if Total Battle Miniatures could make 10mm versions of their 6mm ones, problem solved?

http://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/bigbattalions/6mm/americana.html (http://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/bigbattalions/6mm/americana.html)

Anyway, I have a good number of photographic examples of rail fences from the various Civil War battlefields I have visited. Unfortunately, I am a dunderhead when it comes to posting photos on the Forum from my MacBook but if you or John would like me to e-mail these examples, please drop me a PM and I will be happy to do so.

* I have seen some home-made ones from cocktail sticks and the like - a lot of people are taken in by them but frankly, they are almost laughable, and, having seen the 'real' thing (reconstructions actually), I never have the heart (badness?) to point out how wrong they are.