Our next outing sees us heading up the Claymore show up in Edniburgh, taking place onSaturday 6th August. This one is a great day out and last year was one of the best we've had, so we're hoping for good things again this year!
For more info on the event, head over to the SESCW website here: http://seswc.co.uk/
I'll be heading there with a party of three or four family members in tow so looking forward to the day, to catching up with old friends and to seeing the Pendraken crew.
Since the Adam House days I've only missed 3 shows,so I'll be there too.
Pretty certain it was at Adam House I first encountered Pendraken,various army packs were bought.
Barbarian,Dwarfs,Orcs and Undead ! no Elves,no liked Elves but that's Tolkein's fault.
Easy to spot ! Baldy greybeard sporting many tattoos and glasses.In the interests of clarity it's only one pair of glasses ;)
Great, don't forget my bands !
I will be at Claymore this year but I won't be running a charity stall for once, that period of my hobbytime is over, two and a half years is a long stint.
There will be at least two other charity stands if my inside information is correct so please check them out, I will.
I am not scheduled for any club stewarding as technically speaking I am not a member of the host club although I may volunteer some assistance. I haven't planned anything along those lines as I am up for surgery and I foolishly said I could take up any cancellations just to get the job done before Crisis in November.
Claymore itself is too big a show for me to do a full photo report on my blog although I may photoblog about things that catch my eye.
I will be collecting some pre-ordered goodies here and there and I will probably succumb to some impulse buys, always fun.
I will be talking to many of my old friends (god they are a diminishing bunch) as I see them as the highlight of the show and I will no doubt talk to some of my new friends as I do like a have a blether.
Failing all that I hope everyone has a good day at Claymore 2016.
Quote from: Leon on 13 July 2016, 11:58:09 PM
For more info on the event, head over to the Spartans website here: http://seswc.co.uk/
Just spotted the
'Spartans' reference above Leon. I take it to be an autotext typo thingie.
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 17 July 2016, 07:04:57 PM
Just spotted the 'Spartans' reference above Leon. I take it to be an autotext typo thingie.
I've fixed that now, I'd copied and pasted the text from our Phalanx show thread... :-[
:)
Spotted the 'Spartans' thingy also and wondered since when are they calling themselves as such? Who knows? Might have started something there!
Anyhoo. Plan to put in an appearance .... probably after a nice lunch in Edinburgh city centre with the family ... so (as usual) probably won't get to meet any of the guys on the forum. :(
Westie
I'll be around somewhere and I'm sure Ithoriel will be there most of the time too.
Jim
OK dokey. Don't know when I will be there exactly (between 1.30 & 2.00?) and haven't yet decided on what creation I will wear on the day. But when I do turn up (new Edinburgh 20 mph speed limit permitting), I'll probably have on a casual shirt, blue jeans and white trainers. Other distinguishing features (apart from being suave and debonair)? Being an old fashioned guy, I have a grey-white moustache and hair (my wife says 'silver') and silver rimmed specs. :-B
@ Alan (the guy I met at Vapnartak), if reading this, sorry, being an eejit, I forget what you look like (lucky you?), but if you are there too and you see me, please say hello.
[btw, the only one I know to look at is Jim (I think!) so if anyone else sees me (or someone like me? - might be fun), I'm not ignoring you so please also introduce yourself].
I'll deffo be there with the clan (son, nephew and cousin) though currently doing the cat-herding exercise of arranging where we'll meet who, when!
This is me - if you see me say hello or hide under the nearest table, as preferred :)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 04 August 2016, 12:30:24 PM
This is me - if you see me say hello or hide under the nearest table, as preferred :)
Run, just run.
:P
See what you mean. :P
[ :D Ithoriel without the beard ]
All real men have beards.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 August 2016, 12:06:38 PM
All real men have beards.
I have a beard, I keep it in tiny little bits inside my shaver. I clean them out every decade or so even if it doesn't need done.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 August 2016, 12:06:38 PM
All real men have beards.
No - all real men HAD beards.
IanS
All men had real beards.
Real beard here. Who'd fake the nicotine stain on it ?
If you spot a bald fella sporting many tattoos, the afore mentioned nicotine stained grey beard and he answers to "Davie "
That'll be me ;)
Probably wearing a dragon bowling shirt too.
Had a great day, despite older sprog having to drop out.
Spent most of the day talking to people - friends, traders, family ... random strangers.
Met two people who it turned out weren't Westmarcher but with whom I had interesting conversations!
Bought some 1st Corps gladiators, some spray paint cans, a 15mm scale Sphinx to use with my 6mm Egyptians, some bits and pieces from Leon and Adele (forgot the SU-122's dammit!) and that was about it.
All the traders I spoke to seemed to think they'd had a profitable day which is a good sign.
There are pictures here
http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/ithoriel/library/
Great pictures Mike, much better than mine.
Nice Mike
Ithoriel, I enjoyed your photo albums, thanks! Particularly liked that you included many of the title posters for the games. :-bd
Great piccies, Mike. 8)
Thanks for popping those up....(Or should I say, the link to your album ?) :)
Cheers - Phil
Yes, great pictures indeed, Mike - a very comprehensive pictorial report. Unfortunately, I didn't get there until about 1.55pm so probably missed everyone (as usual)! However, talked to Leon and his lady(?) at the Pendraken stand, conversed with a few Pendraken customers and wargamers running games and generally enjoyed the show, too. :-bd
Leon thought you might still be around, Mike, but maybe because I don't know what you look like when you are not smiling (remember, all I had to go on was a photo of a grinning bearded guy sat in a pub), I never saw anyone who might have been you. :(
@ Kodiakblair. Should have read the thread again before I set off (so might have recognised you) and set off too early for Edinburgh (10.00am) to read your second post. Obviously, didn't see you either, Jim. D'oh!
Great pictures :-bd =D> :-bd
I particularly liked the Russo-Japanese naval game :)
My show report is at:
http://jim-duncan.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/my-day-at-claymore-2016.html
The battleship game was my favourite too.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UeRuXX3r9ws/V6Y9aGIK5HI/AAAAAAAAGj0/GfzxKCSi7EMMumpX8opxFvueAgoVrE7VACLcB/s1600/P1000256.JPG)
Terrific close-up, Jim. I liked the naval battle, too, and even though I took a photograph of the game I was thinking later on that I should really have taken a close-up like yours also.
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
Was a strange day. No figures or rules bought :o
3 winning raffle tickets :) but the prizes were AWOL. Wasn't alone in this,saw 3 others told the same thing in the couple of minutes
I was there.
Magister Militum didn't have the 3mm command packs I was after. Got told it was mainly young kids interested in my B&B items so dropped
prices to pocket money level. 5 mins later spotted guy mid 50s with the lot.
Still, there were plenty of real beards in attendance :-bd
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 06 August 2016, 08:23:49 PM
My show report is at:
http://jim-duncan.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/my-day-at-claymore-2016.html
Thanks to you, too, Jim !
Nice piccies , again. Looks like a really nice venue !
Can I see Mike (Ithoriel) in one of the shots ?
Westie......I'm guessing you saw Leon's other half....Or as Nobby refers to her....'Milady'.
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 07 August 2016, 07:20:30 AM
Westie......I'm guessing you saw Leon's other half....Or as Nobby refers to her....'Milady'.
Let's hope so. Otherwise there may be questions in Middle Borough. :(
Unless Dave's finally decided on a change in life style. :-\
Quote from: fsn on 07 August 2016, 07:36:34 AM
Unless Dave's finally decided on a change in life style. :-\
OIK !! (For the second time, this morning.)
Cheers - Phil
Reading this whilst listening to "I'm Raving" with bagpipes playing "Scotland The Brave" in the background. Strange to say the least.
Thanks for the kind comments.
Was very pleased with the pictures myself given they're just taken with my Samsung J3 smartphone.
d_guy, I started taking pictures of the signs outside of the castles and country houses I visited when I realised I had photographs and couldn't remember where they were of! Started doing the same with shots of convention games for much the same reason.
Jim, some great shots there. Despite my best intentions I never seem to remember to take shots of the show as a whole or of the people there. Loved the close up of the battleship.
We arrived at the show around 11am, stayed until somewhere after 3pm and headed back up to the city centre. I'd just left my nephew with my sister and headed off with my cousin when the heavens opened so we retired to Bella Italia on Hanover Street for a meal, just beating the crowds of others with similar ideas! Good food and great service despite being packed to capacity.
Leon & Adele and Pete Berry of Baccus were staying on in Edinburgh for a few days after the show. Despite predictions of torrential rain, weather so far today has been good. Hope they're enjoying themselves.
Quote from: Techno on 07 August 2016, 07:51:09 AM
OIK !! (For the second time, this morning.)
Cheers - Phil
Aw! A double Oiker! I'm so proud! :'( :'( :'(
Quote from: fsn on 07 August 2016, 09:33:18 AM
Aw! A double Oiker! I'm so proud! :'( :'( :'(
I think that means you get a free go
Only if we're playing the South Kensington variation where it's legal to ignore stations if they cannot be approached obliquely.*
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game)
When me and my mates play and using the SK variation we allow the approaching of land mark stations like Scotland yard to be disregarded
I stress these are house rules and not in the official pack but we feel it adds more depth to the game
And I have just received a letter from Mrs Trelis of North Wales.....
IanS
Quote from: Fenton on 07 August 2016, 10:46:35 AM
When me and my mates play and using the SK variation we allow the approaching of land mark stations like Scotland yard to be disregarded
I stress these are house rules and not in the official pack but we feel it adds more depth to the game
No....I'm sorry....If you go through the Mornington Crescent rules really properly, you'll find that's been completely outlawed.
Even for house rules !.....
Heretic ! Quote from: ianrs54 on 07 August 2016, 10:57:20 AM
And I have just received a letter from Mrs Trelis of North Wales.....IanS
Leave my Great Aunt out of this.
Cheers - Phil
Your living in past Phil
Your probably still using 1950's Dixon supplement which stated ' when proceeding in a northly direction you 'must always turn right at a police box'
House rules can be fun although we did have to black ball someone for trying to go via High Wycombe once
Dammit.....You're right, S. X_X
I just can't keep up with all these modern supplements.
(Do you think more than 5% (?) of the forum have the slightest clue as to what's being talked about.) ;)
Cheers - Phil
Speaking on behalf of the forum .......
....... what the ........ :-/
@ Mike / Ithoriel - I can't believe we missed each other. I was there from 1.55 to 3.35. We must have passed each other by or at the very least been in the same immediate vicinity. :o
Quote from: Westmarcher on 07 August 2016, 12:19:53 PM
@ Mike / Ithoriel - I can't believe we missed each other. I was there from 1.55 to 3.35. We must have passed each other by or at the very least been in the same immediate vicinity. :o
I missed Mike/Ithoriel all day. I really must get my rifle sights calibrated.
:)
;D ;D
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 07 August 2016, 12:23:42 PM
I missed Mike/Ithoriel all day. I really must get my rifle sights calibrated.
:)
Rather - use an LMG ?
IanS
Quote from: Westmarcher on 07 August 2016, 12:19:53 PM
Speaking on behalf of the forum .......
....... what the ........ :-/
Next time I speak to you, Westie.....I'll
try and explain. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Otherwise.....Listen to "I'm sorry, I haven't Clue" on radio 4 (or 4 extra)........They don't play 'Mornington Crescent' every week, though.
Cheers - Phil
Here, the gang explain as they go.
Think these few examples clears up the whole game.
We had a cracking day yesterday, our best Claymore ever. We'd left Dave behind for this one, so it was me and Adele running things and we had a really nice time. This was the first year we've set up on the Friday as well, so that made things a lot easier for us, rather than setting off at 4am and getting home 18 hours later.
It was good to see loads of friendly faces and catch up with folk, I hope you all enjoyed the show as well. Thanks to Jim and Mike for the photos, I didn't get chance to leave the stand much during the show, so I missed all of the games this year.
Quote from: Leon on 07 August 2016, 03:09:03 PM
We'd left Dave behind for this one.
Aww! Hope you left the window open a crack, and plenty water for him.
Quote from: Leon on 07 August 2016, 03:09:03 PM
so it was me and Adele running things and we had a really nice time.
Nice of her to take time off from her tour.
Quote from: Leon on 07 August 2016, 03:09:03 PM
It was good to see loads of friendly faces
No Forum members then?
Quote from: fsn on 07 August 2016, 03:19:34 PM
No Forum members then?
Well I was there and so was Mike/Ithoriel.
Mike and Jim, Pity neither of you swung by to snap my game otherwise you would have been offered a free Anglo-Saxon table model. Shame no pics in your roundups as I won Best in Show with my 28mm Romano-British Cramond Fort display game. Remembered my camera but was kept very busy all day with chat over the game and forgot to take any photos myself. Thanks to Derek Hodge for the figures on display.
Yes, that is pity as it is one of my favourite periods of history - you know, those things that actually happened.
Quote from: WeeWars on 07 August 2016, 04:40:05 PM
Mike and Jim, Pity neither of you swung by to snap my game otherwise you would have been offered a free Anglo-Saxon table model. Shame no pics in your roundups as I won Best in Show with my 28mm Romano-British Cramond Fort display game. Remembered my camera but was kept very busy all day with chat over the game and forgot to take any photos myself. Thanks to Derek Hodge for the figures on display.
I can't work out how I missed getting a picture Mike. I basically worked out a pattern in both halls that I was sure passed every table at least once. Whereabouts were you?
You have photos of the three games that were around me in the main atrium hall. Leon came and had a chat. I was beside traders Dave Thomas and Allan of Lancashire Games, both of whom noted interest in new designs for their own projects.
Quote from: WeeWars on 07 August 2016, 04:40:05 PM
Mike and Jim, Pity neither of you swung by to snap my game otherwise you would have been offered a free Anglo-Saxon table model. Shame no pics in your roundups as I won Best in Show with my 28mm Romano-British Cramond Fort display game. Remembered my camera but was kept very busy all day with chat over the game and forgot to take any photos myself. Thanks to Derek Hodge for the figures on display.
Sorry, I never photograph every game, you get too much of what you don't necessarily like that way. I only photograph games that I really like.
By way of an apology let me post a photo by someone else :-)
Photo from http://asienieboje.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/claymore-2016.html?m=1 (http://asienieboje.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/claymore-2016.html?m=1)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8122/28193102483_b4526849a7_b.jpg)
Congratulations, Wee Wars! I should have read the Welcome Leaflet that was handed to me at the door - you know, the one with the list of traders and table layouts for each hall telling you who was running what game and so on. And although I read this when I got home, "Supreme Littleness" still didn't twig until your post today! D'oh! #-o
Anyway, its possible I have a photograph of your game on my phone (as I recall, Cramond was an ancient Roman port so presumably your game / display was the one with water, two boats and a Roman Fort?). If you want, PM me and I'll try to forward to you.
Dammit, Ithoriel! That's the one! Beat me to it! (snazzle, razzle, mutter, mutter ....) ~X(
(however mine was taken from the other side! :P)
P.S. Tried to follow the Mornington Crescent vids, fsn, but ...... "nope" .... (I often fall asleep when in a train and ..... somehow .... it happened again). Do you need a Tube Map to play this game?
Quote from: Westmarcher on 07 August 2016, 06:09:05 PM
Congratulations, Wee Wars! I should have read the Welcome Leaflet that was handed to me at the door - you know, the one with the list of traders and table layouts for each hall telling you who was running what game and so on. And although I read this when I got home, "Supreme Littleness" still didn't twig until your post today! D'oh! #-o
Anyway, its possible I have a photograph of your game on my phone (as I recall, Cramond was an ancient Roman port so presumably your game / display was the one with water, two boats and a Roman Fort?). If you want, PM me and I'll try to forward to you.
Dammit, Ithoriel! That's the one! Beat me to it! (snazzle, razzle, mutter, mutter ....) ~X(
(however mine was taken from the other side! :P)
P.S. Tried to follow the Mornington Crescent vids, fsn, but ...... "nope" .... (I often fall asleep when in a train and ..... somehow .... it happened again). Do you need a Tube Map to play this game?
Sorry for the duplication everyone. Was distracted by the family and the neighbour's cat which dived into the house to get out of the rain.
Btw. It was only the cat that was out in the rain!
Congratulations WeeWars, very impressive
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
Thanks, Paul. Another pic from Bart:
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8671/28523936030_2c85e87fed_b.jpg)
That IS rather splendid ! :-bd
What on earth makes it look as though there's a bi-plane attacking the fort ?
My usual, rubbish, 2 dimensional perspective is finding exactly where that picture/poster (?) is, in relation to everything else , really disturbing. X_X
Cheers - Phil
I'm not sure anyone knows how it is played :-)
Looks superb, but unsure as to why the gap in the wall has been left undefended, unless it is intended as a sally porte for the cavalry.
Quote from: Leman on 08 August 2016, 10:01:26 AM
Looks superb, but unsure as to why the gap in the wall has been left undefended, unless it is intended as a sally porte for the cavalry.
Strange gamers' convention that medieval fortifications and ancient or Asian temples are always ruins.
Really enjoyed Claymore this year - nice atmosphere and great games to admire. Bought a fair bit (sorry for pinching that packet of hedges Leon!)
As a long time lurker of the forum I always enjoy reading the posts and taking inspiration from the photos. I also hope to honour my promise (2 years ago?) to get involved and even post some pics. I'm currently working on ACW and AWI (Pendraken of course), I also have Falklands/WOTR/LoA waiting!
Quote from: FierceKitty on 08 August 2016, 10:49:42 AM
Strange gamers' convention that medieval fortifications and ancient or Asian temples are always ruins.
By the time the Romano-British shown defending the site were around the fort would presumably have been in some disrepair having not been inhabited by the Roman Army itself since 211AD.
"The fort at Cramond was located on the River Almond at the point where it flows into the Forth. In Roman times, there was probably a natural harbour here. The fort was established around 140 during the building of the Antonine Wall, and remained in use until around 170 when the Romans retreated south to Hadrian's Wall. When the Roman Emperor Septimius Severus began the last major Roman incursion into Scotland from 208 to 211, the fort was reoccupied and enlarged. Throughout these periods of occupation a civilian settlement seems to have existed outside the fort, and some native occupation of the fort seems to have taken place after the time of Severus into the 4th century." - Wikipedia
Quote from: Scolty on 08 August 2016, 10:58:13 AM
Bought a fair bit (sorry for pinching that packet of hedges Leon!)
No worries, thanks for bringing it back! :D
Quote from: Ithoriel on 08 August 2016, 11:08:28 AM
By the time the Romano-British shown defending the site were around the fort would presumably have been in some disrepair having not been inhabited by the Roman Army itself since 211AD.
Yes, that was the conceit of the scenario.
The locals have moved into the ruins of an old fort abandoned by the Romans hundreds of years before. In Roman times, the stone walled part of the fort was as important as the harbour it was built to protect (Cramond means 'fort on the river') as it also protected a granary. In this game, however, the fortified area is fundamentally needed to secure the harbour area and local trade rather than the fuel of an army.
Instead of repairing the old fort, the locals have roofed a single gateway tower with thatch and, as you can see in the previous photo of the back of the gateway, have erected a timber palisade to create a small enclosed area and built comfortable lodgings within it while leaving the other tower of the gateway in ruins. The idea is that this small defensive area is enough to secure the harbour.
All the goings on outside this perimeter - manning a convenient wall and cavalry charging about - are other locals coming to the aid of the garrison to ward off an attack by Picts from over the water in a flotilla of small boats.
Quote from: WeeWars on 09 August 2016, 01:38:53 AM
Yes, that was the conceit of the scenario.
Auto-correct again? (e.g., concept?)
Anyhoo, pray tell us about the
pinched hedges, WW.
conceit/kənˈsiːt/
noun
1) excessive pride in oneself.
2) an ingenious or fanciful comparison or metaphor.
Option 2 being used here Westmarcher, I believe.
IBFK
Quote from: Westmarcher on 09 August 2016, 11:52:36 AM
Auto-correct again? (e.g., concept?)
Anyhoo, pray tell us about the pinched hedges, WW.
Yes, as Mike says conceit as in a fanciful notion, in this case of history. The assumptions made are not necessarily based on solid evidence.
I must be slow (as an excuse, it is my birthday and I've gained another year in one day) but I don't understand what you mean by 'pinched hedges'.
The "pinched hedges" was Scolty ... I presume a pack of hedges got scooped up with other goodies but had not been bought and paid for and was returned later upon discovery. Did something similar myself at Falkirk. Scooped up my own purchases and the intended purchases of the bloke next to me at one of the stalls. Luckily I realised before leaving the stall and was able to pass them back without too much of a stir!
Westie's use of the word is archaic, but perfectly correct, and it lends a little flavour. I have spoken.
Except that it's WeeWars who used the word, not Westmarcher.
It is an exceptionally nice looking game right enough, not surprised it won.
Oops!
Spot on Ithoriel! I had placed some bags onto the counter - paid Leon and as I picked up the bags I must have caught a pack of the new resin hedges. I went straight to the car to dump said purchases and a pack of hedges fell into the car boot. There was a brief moment as I wondered if I had bought hedges (?) Nope - the penny dropped and so a quick trip back to Leon to apologise!
Now - back to those Union ACW troops - pics soon!