Sorry if this topic has been covered on the forum. I had a search but only found reference to the Army painter Dip/Washes.
In an effort to speed up my painting I have been looking at the Army Painter coloured primers.
I had to sit down with a glass of water after looking at the price - previously I have used car primer at £3.50 a tin
Has anyone used the coloured primers?
Were they any good
Any tips on getting best results?
I normally use the excellent Halfords grey or black as well!
Sometimes is use humbrols sprays - small can, but fairly small prices. I do occasionally indulge in GW's black as its a big can for not too much but still a bit much compared to halfords. Recently tried their "Macragge Blue" and that's pretty good - if the AP stuff is like that it's decent paint - but how much is it, and what's the postage (unless it's in your flgs/local model shop...).
I picked up a couple at Claymore last year for spray painting a basic colour onto tanks. A Desert Yellow type colour for the Germans and a Dark Green for the Russians. Worked well over a Halfords black undercoat.
Getting them by post can be tricky and expensive. IIRC the Post Office won't touch them and so they need to be couriered.
I use a few Montana spray cans from a local art shop too.
I use them all the time for coloured basecoats to speed up painting.
They are £12 a tin including postage on Ebay.
Postage from army painter is 7 Euros
Ouch.
In which I'd knock it on the head. My local model store has GW sprays at under a tenner, Humbrol at a fiver. And Halfords do huge tins for about seven quid :D
If I say one I wanted and could pick up for a couple of quid less than that I'd be more tempted, but upwards of a tenner is not for me!
I am just discovering base colour painting, but since I don't get on well with cans I have gone down the airbrush route and though the outlay is expensive, I think V the cost of cans over time (and the fact that my nozzles always blocked too soon) becomes a viable option. The airbrush does require work with cleaning afterwards etc - but it is just a thought. I use the Vallejo primer and then put a model air colour on and then spray an ink on before I start painting.
If I had time and space and opportunity for an airbrush that would be very handy! As I don't, it's coloured spray can time ;)
Quote from: toxicpixie on 13 July 2016, 09:33:16 AM
If I had time and space and opportunity for an airbrush that would be very handy! As I don't, it's coloured spray can time ;)
I am thinking of going down the airbrush route as I have a good one and a tank compressor.
Tou do not need vast amount of space to airbrush. I used to do it in my flat kitchen. Use an a3 pad and lean a piece of card the same against the wall. Very little overspray. Even with very little practice you can spray the tracks of a 10mm tank without getting the paint on the wheels
I get enough stick for just being in the back 3ft of the extension or using anything glue or spray related, I suspect I'd get my knuckles broken for setting up an air brush, let alone if I overpsrayed anywhere :D
Quote from: Norm on 13 July 2016, 09:21:49 AM
I am just discovering base colour painting, but since I don't get on well with cans I have gone down the airbrush route and though the outlay is expensive, I think V the cost of cans over time (and the fact that my nozzles always blocked too soon) becomes a viable option. The airbrush does require work with cleaning afterwards etc - but it is just a thought. I use the Vallejo primer and then put a model air colour on and then spray an ink on before I start painting.
Norm, and whoever is interested, the trick to avoiding clogged nozzles: (the trick is at 9 minutes 50 sec)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2tJBeKTikw
Wilkinson's Primer, £3 a spray!
Quote from: petercooman on 13 July 2016, 12:11:02 PM
Norm, and whoever is interested, the trick to avoiding clogged nozzles: (the trick is at 9 minutes 50 sec)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2tJBeKTikw
It even says that on most sprays these days :)
Quote from: mad lemmey on 13 July 2016, 12:15:35 PM
Wilkinson's Primer, £3 a spray!
I never get past a Wilkinsons when I have chance to buy any!
Or yeah, I would.
I would recommend avoiding "Baufix" from Lidl though - it was cheap as but was very runny and failed to stick well. Went ok on my bed sheet I sprayed up for a base cloth though.
Quote from: toxicpixie on 13 July 2016, 12:23:27 PM
Went ok on my bed sheet I sprayed up for a base cloth though.
WHAT !!! :o :o :o
Oh, right....For a moment I had this vision of you painting
figures while you were IN bed. X_X
Cheers - Phil
I have used the brown and green and black got them at a £5 when a shop was selling up.. they worked fine...
Quote from: Techno on 13 July 2016, 02:23:18 PM
WHAT !!! :o :o :o
Oh, right....For a moment I had this vision of you painting figures while you were IN bed. X_X
Cheers - Phil
O'm not that miniature obsessed! Although there really aren't enough hours in the day ;)
I haven't used spray undercoat for donkeys years because I spent just as long painting in the bits the spray missed as it took with a brush. I use Poundland enamel matt black applied by brush...works a treat for me. Plus the fact that 10mm chaps don't take that long to undercoat.
MickS
Peter, thanks for the video link. I did do the uspside down thing, but I don't think I ever managed to exhaust a can of its contents before getting a nozzle block.
Never had a block myself, but don't use that much anyway. I stopped using spray cans after getting white haze from spray varnish.
Quote from: Techno on 13 July 2016, 02:23:18 PM
WHAT !!! :o :o :o
Oh, right....For a moment I had this vision of you painting figures while you were IN bed. X_X
Cheers - Phil
If he gets in trouble from Mrs Toxic for doing stuff in the extension, spraying figures in bed would likely result in " Toxicpixie the Eunuch". :D
Quote from: Norm on 13 July 2016, 05:08:15 PM
Peter, thanks for the video link. I did do the uspside down thing, but I don't think I ever managed to exhaust a can of its contents before getting a nozzle block.
A tip is to invert and spray to clear the tube and then take the nozzle off and keep it in a jar with enough turps in to cover the nozzle hole. When I tried spraying this worked for me every time.
MickS
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 13 July 2016, 07:15:32 PM
If he gets in trouble from Mrs Toxic for doing stuff in the extension, spraying figures in bed would likely result in " Toxicpixie the Eunuch". :D
:D
That wouldn't go well for anyone :)
Although it's one way to deal with a clogged nozzle...
Quote from: petercooman on 13 July 2016, 06:26:28 PM
Never had a block myself, but don't use that much anyway. I stopped using spray cans after getting white haze from spray varnish.
I had this once, but i leaned a trick, from the interweb somewhere, that if you let the affected area dry then respray it the varnish goes clear....I was skeptical but tried it and it worked!
I have used many different colours from Army painter and find them very useful! It has increased the speed of my painting considerabley.
Coloured base coat, block paint in details and the Army Painter Dark Tone Dip, brushed on, matt varnish spray and bang! Ready to base!!
Plenty of examples on my blog
www.warrenswargamerantings.blogspot.com
Looks to be a very successful method Bunny.
Bunny - like the look of your KoW armies. But I was particularly interested in your LoA units and spent a good while perusing those posts, lots of inspiration.