Well I've orderd a lot of ACW figs from pendraken, this will be my 5th attempt at the period, I've tried the period in 28mm, 15mm, 6mm and back to 15mm, and Now I'm trying it in 10mm.
But thats not what the thread is about I also want to do 30YW, I tried 30YW in 28mm, but it takes to long to paint and I can only play a small portion of a bigger battle.
So I want to play the full battle, that brings me to me questions.
1. How many 10mm figures can I have on my 4x7 table and still have room to play, With irregular 6mm I can have as many as 5000 figures no problem, I have painted sevral thousdand of them and they take no room at all. Baccus take alot more room, but I can still have sevral thousand of them.
But what of 10mm,
2. what rules, if I'm doing a full battle, I need rules to work with, the only one I can think of is bauccus ECW rules, but I don't realy care for polemoes rules, and they are after all for ECW not 30YW
And lastly I need some inspiration, massed infantry from the period would be a nice inspiraton
Regards
The 7yrs War Polmos is due out soon, Black powder is resonable, and there is Horse, Foot and Guns - an itteration of DBx. They are free, from the Yahoo Group, for the moment.
IanS :)
Use fire and fury basing with more troops, i will post some pics of 10mm ACW en masse soon. It is a fantastic scale for ACW.
Pendraken take approx 6-7mm frontage per figure. Units for warmaster are 18 figs wide x 2 deep on 3 lots of 40x20mm bases.
Don't get hung up on "What scale figures for these rules" (or which rules for 10mm). 10mm works for anything where men are based in groups (and some will say you can do them individual for skirmish as well)
You have two choices.
Base 10mm in the bases for larger scales.
Reduce the scales.
examples of option 1
F&F says use 1 1/8 inch bases - I call it 30mm. They put 5 x 15mm on a base. 10mm you can get 3 rows of 4
Regiment of Foot puts 4 x 15mm figs (2x2) on 30mm - My 10mm ECW is 16 pikes on 30mm
http://lasthussar.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/more-10mm/
or you can convert down (option 2).
eg Black Powder is in inches and ‘written’ for 28mm . We play cms straight from the book â€" just read every measurement as metric, not imperial. This works well with 10mm because the men are 1cm high not 1 inch. This is 40% of ‘as written’. Instead of unit frontages of 3 men on a 45mm base 1 use 3 on 20mm (slightly over the 40%, but easier size to cut) The result is a game that is identical, just at 40% scale.
http://lasthussar.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/prussians/
A further advantage is your table becomes HUGE. Your 4 ft by 7ft table >>>
4 ft = 48 inches=121cm
7 ft = 84 inches=213cm
You now have a table not 48x84 ‘measurement units’ (if using inches) but 120x210 â€" that is equivalent of a 10ft by 17ft table!
OR you could do option 1, and instead of 6 Napoleonic bases each of 6 (3x2), have 6 bases of 3 rows of 7 â€" a total of over 120 soldiers as opposed to 36. (Pricewise â€" 120 x 10mm =£13, 36 Plastic 28mm = £15, 36 metal £40+
Interesting that you ask about 30YW rules and get answers about 7YW and ACW! That aside, try using DBR; if you rewrite them to correct some of the obvious absurdities, they do give a smooth and enjoyable battle.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 27 September 2010, 02:05:21 AM
Pendraken take approx 6-7mm frontage per figure. Units for warmaster are 18 figs wide x 2 deep on 3 lots of 40x20mm bases.
Don't get hung up on "What scale figures for these rules" (or which rules for 10mm). 10mm works for anything where men are based in groups (and some will say you can do them individual for skirmish as well)
You have two choices.
Base 10mm in the bases for larger scales.
Reduce the scales.
examples of option 1
F&F says use 1 1/8 inch bases - I call it 30mm. They put 5 x 15mm on a base. 10mm you can get 3 rows of 4
Regiment of Foot puts 4 x 15mm figs (2x2) on 30mm - My 10mm ECW is 16 pikes on 30mm
http://lasthussar.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/more-10mm/
or you can convert down (option 2).
eg Black Powder is in inches and ‘written’ for 28mm . We play cms straight from the book â€" just read every measurement as metric, not imperial. This works well with 10mm because the men are 1cm high not 1 inch. This is 40% of ‘as written’. Instead of unit frontages of 3 men on a 45mm base 1 use 3 on 20mm (slightly over the 40%, but easier size to cut) The result is a game that is identical, just at 40% scale.
http://lasthussar.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/prussians/
A further advantage is your table becomes HUGE. Your 4 ft by 7ft table >>>
4 ft = 48 inches=121cm
7 ft = 84 inches=213cm
You now have a table not 48x84 ‘measurement units’ (if using inches) but 120x210 â€" that is equivalent of a 10ft by 17ft table!
OR you could do option 1, and instead of 6 Napoleonic bases each of 6 (3x2), have 6 bases of 3 rows of 7 â€" a total of over 120 soldiers as opposed to 36. (Pricewise â€" 120 x 10mm =£13, 36 Plastic 28mm = £15, 36 metal £40+
Thank you, I've never thought just doing " to cm, it would mean that games like Black powder could be played quite big, or about 40% more units?
Quote from: Gunfreak on 27 September 2010, 12:11:36 PM
Thank you, I've never thought just doing " to cm, it would mean that games like Black powder could be played quite big, or about 40% more units?
That is how I play Black Powder, and it is very nice - lots of room for maneuver.