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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: FierceKitty on 26 June 2016, 11:30:06 AM

Title: If I see one more...
Post by: FierceKitty on 26 June 2016, 11:30:06 AM
...game with Trajanic legionaries fighting Gauls, I'm going to start using ECW clubmen to fight Gettysburg.
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: Leman on 26 June 2016, 11:52:25 AM
Can't the Gauls be called Britons. Up in what is now northern England, southern Scotland, the Romans were still having punch ups with the locals at the time of Trajan. Then of course you've got the peculiar competition side of ancient and medieval wargaming. I've seen Gauls taking on Charles the Bold's Burgundians (sigh).
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: FierceKitty on 26 June 2016, 12:05:05 PM
They usually claim it's Big Julie....
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 26 June 2016, 12:12:59 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 26 June 2016, 12:05:05 PM
They usually claim it's Big Julie....

and she is a very nice girl.

IanS
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: d_Guy on 26 June 2016, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 26 June 2016, 11:30:06 AM
I'm going to start using ECW clubmen to fight Gettysburg.
You could probably get away with that for 1st Manassas but see your point about Gettysburg.
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: Leman on 26 June 2016, 01:35:26 PM
So we're talking Hollywood Romans fighting for Julius Caesar, with not a sign of mail or oval shaped shields anywhere - oh dear, I knew that was wrong when I was nine. What is wrong with these people?
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: FierceKitty on 26 June 2016, 04:54:44 PM
Hollywood, Asterix, Airfix. :(
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: Leman on 26 June 2016, 06:01:09 PM
I vaguely remember being a bit disappointed with the Airfix Romans as a kid as they were wearing leather breastplates if memory serves.
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: FierceKitty on 26 June 2016, 06:05:10 PM
And were armed with something like a tournament jousting lance. And had a chariot.
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: Ithoriel on 26 June 2016, 10:27:10 PM
Quote from: Leman on 26 June 2016, 06:01:09 PM
I vaguely remember being a bit disappointed with the Airfix Romans as a kid as they were wearing leather breastplates if memory serves.

It was the bondage pants they wore instead of pteruges that got me.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 26 June 2016, 06:05:10 PM
And were armed with something like a tournament jousting lance. And had a chariot.

The pila were not badly modelled but held in a very strange way - possible down the the leather pants

The chariot was very nice ... if you were modelling the Circus Maximus! Not so much use on the battlefield. Had they included a slave whispering "Remember Caesar, you are only mortal" it might have done for a Triumphal parade.

As to Gauls vs Flavian Romans, I remember the days of Robin Hoods outlaws taking on US Cavalrymen converted into Roman Equites.

Recently played a DBA3 game using Sumerians to take on Mauryan Indians. Instead of worrying about the 3000 year time gap I just pretended they were an army from Meluhha (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meluhha). :)
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 June 2016, 12:55:47 PM
Are we talking about the same figures?

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/review.aspx?id=610

That looks like no weapon ever used by a legionary.
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: Ithoriel on 28 June 2016, 01:05:22 PM
The weight on the Airfix one is too far back and the legionary throwing it is appears to be holding it by the iron shaft not the haft. That said, it is clearly a pilum which puts it streets ahead of the Made in Hong Kong "Roman Legionnares" I had who sported lorica segmentata, semi-cylindrical scutum, Corinthian helmet and trident!

(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spartacus/images/3/38/Pilum-spear.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120806192548)
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 June 2016, 01:14:20 PM
Those would be good for a laugh, at least!
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: Leman on 28 June 2016, 02:46:08 PM
 ;D ;D ;D oh dearie me. I suppose someone somewhere has cocked up Chinese history good style as well.
Title: Re: If I see one more...
Post by: Subedai on 28 June 2016, 07:15:39 PM
I remember seeing a copy of the original Miniature Wargames magazine with a more than a whole legion's worth of Airfix plastic Romans. Nearly all of them were in the marching position; 24 to a cohort and about 8 cohorts in full view with about the same number  arranged about them. Very impressive it was.

MickS