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Title: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 May 2016, 01:33:10 AM
I'm looking for arab/ bedouin type tents in 6mm for an encampment of MAR.TU / Tidnum / Amurrim / Amorites.

Gods know what MAR.TU tents actually looked like but static architecture hasn't changed radically in 5,000 years so I'm taking a wild guess tents probably haven't either.

Baueda do a 15mm version of roughly what I'm after but it's about two and a half times too big. I'm after something maybe 25mm wide, 15mm deep and 7.5mm or so high. (Inch by half inch by quarter inch roughly)

(http://www.baueda.com/images//15ara_rtp_light.jpg)

Before I start supergluing my hand to the table, puncturing my fingers while trying to bend paperclips to shape and snipping the tablecloth as well as the tissue paper does anyone know of something ready made?

I'm NOT after - Roman tents, Bell tents, modern "toblerone" shaped tents, medieval knights pavilions.

More than happy to use something not originally intended as a tent if you know of a piece of vehicle stowage or a bottle cap that just happens to be about he right shape and size.

TIA

Failing that, please may I reserve a seat between Techno and fsn in A&E :-)
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 May 2016, 02:53:15 AM
MID09 - Market Stalls by Leven aren't quite what you're looking for, but might do. http://www.levenminiatures.co.uk/pages/middle_east.htm
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 31 May 2016, 05:42:15 AM
Hello Ithoriel

Only ones I can think of are the irregular tents which probably aren't close enough:-

(http://irregularminiatures.co.uk/images/6mmtents.jpg)

Can't even think. of any paper models
Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: toxicpixie on 31 May 2016, 10:31:32 AM
Some piece of electrical DIY gubbins tweaks my memory on that sort of shape - fuse cover? Or maybe a cap for a shower gel/shampoo thing?

Blimey. Can you hot knife something approaching that out of polystyrene?!

How many do you need...
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 May 2016, 10:45:52 AM
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Feel free to keep them coming if any of you forumites have more ideas.

I have the Leven market stalls and they're not really what I'm after but will eventually make an excellent marketplace for my Sumerian town. Even have some Perfect Six's fantasy range rats to have scurrying around in the background.

The Irregular tents not quite what I want either though I'll bear them in mind, thanks.

Electrical DIY gubbins - should have thought of that myself! Will have an online rummage.

Hot knife - simultaneously excising self inflicted wounds and cauterising self inflicted burns :)
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: toxicpixie on 31 May 2016, 11:35:51 AM
I don't have a foam cutter myself, suspect I wouldn't be allowed as a/ fumes, and b/ burn death and trips to casualty :D

But a cheap knife and a gas hob/chefs blow torch will work nicely...

Shall I put the ambulance on stand by?
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Techno on 31 May 2016, 02:26:46 PM
Hi Mike.

If you DO end up having to make some......Don't use paperclips.
Buy a 99p pack of fuse wire.......Much, much easier to bend and snip.

The 5 amp will be way too thin.....and the 30 amp will probably be to thick.....But the 15 amp should be ideal.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 May 2016, 04:21:39 PM
Thanks Techno, always good to have professional advice!

Fuse wire ... do they still sell that? :)

On the shopping list.
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Techno on 31 May 2016, 04:32:16 PM
Ho Yus.  :)

In fact I'm going to pop down to our little local electrical store tomorrow, 'cos I'm almost out of 15 amp wire.
Gimme a shout if you can't find any local to you, Mike.

Cheers - Phil



Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: fsn on 31 May 2016, 06:30:10 PM
Have you thought about florists' wire?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gauge-Silver-Wire-Lengths-Wires/dp/B0050HWV9Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464719343&sr=8-3&keywords=florists+wire (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gauge-Silver-Wire-Lengths-Wires/dp/B0050HWV9Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464719343&sr=8-3&keywords=florists+wire)

comes in straight lengths and in coils. 
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: petercooman on 31 May 2016, 08:55:45 PM
Maybe you could use plastic gemstones, bit like the one on the bottom right of this picture:

(http://g01.s.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1SRC5GXXXXXbjXpXXq6xXFXXX0/34799/HTB1SRC5GXXXXXbjXpXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg)
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: petercooman on 31 May 2016, 09:08:06 PM
As an example of having a looksie on ebay, you can find cheap ones like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acrylic-Rectangle-Gem-Shaped-Faceted-Beads-13x18mm-12-Pieces-/291774914912?hash=item43ef23e160:g:qzoAAOSwUfNXSCRu


Or you can get something like this and pry the gems out:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIG-RETRO-80s-FACETED-PLASTIC-GEM-NECKLACE-gold-plated-BLACK-FACET-BEAD-CHUNKY-/140825893351?hash=item20c9e099e7:m:mKyj9AIxxcgV65qG-U5NLkw



Beware:  Searching ebay for ' plastic gem' also displays a good amount of 'gem' d&d diice sets, and may result in the purchase of too many dice, that you can never roll at the same time anyway.

You have been warned...
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 May 2016, 09:54:59 PM
Thank you Peter.

I knew the forum would come up with ideas!

Just ordered 12 pieces Faceted SHIELD Acrylic Beads Blue & Black 26mm x 20mm x 7mm. We'll see how that goes.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDYwMA==/z/VW0AAOSw-nZTrHDi/$_12.JPG)

Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: petercooman on 31 May 2016, 10:21:38 PM
 :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd


And, how mine dice and wich colours got ordered  :d
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 May 2016, 10:42:36 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 31 May 2016, 10:21:38 PM
And, how mine dice and wich colours got ordered  :d

None! I was well warned and carefully avoided dice of any sort. :)

I did bookmark some beads that might do as amphorae when I get to doing the docks and market place.
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 01 June 2016, 12:21:58 AM
Hello

If it doesn't work out and you're not sure of what they looked like you could always try the Mongolian Yurts. Who can tell you you're wrong  :D :D

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/MON14.JPG)

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/MON19.JPG)

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/MON18.JPG)

The small one (last pic) could work with 6mm.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 June 2016, 01:46:19 AM
Off the top of my head: hasn't woven cloth rather than hides been the fabric of choice in the middle east for a very, very long time?
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 01 June 2016, 02:02:38 AM
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Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 June 2016, 02:05:39 AM
Soo-oo-rrrrrrry.
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: petercooman on 01 June 2016, 05:48:53 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 31 May 2016, 10:42:36 PM
None! I was well warned and carefully avoided dice of any sort. :)

I did bookmark some beads that might do as amphorae when I get to doing the docks and market place.

:-bd :-bd

Is your 'ebay' to buy list as long as mine?  ;D
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Ithoriel on 27 September 2016, 03:42:54 PM
Finally finished the first module of a camp for my MAR.TU (Amorite) camp.

Will make a couple more at some point. The canopy at the front will need to be wider on future modules I think, but overall pleased with something made from a 20mm diameter MDF circular base, a resin jewellery bead, some flexible filler, a pair of pins and a sliver of paper :)

The modules shows a 6mm Perfect Six child , assisted by an Onslaught Mercenary Warhound, herding some Perfect Six sheep while being watched by a Baccus Amazon Archer (minus bow). The two jars started life as glow-in-the-dark fishing lures!
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Shedman on 27 September 2016, 04:27:32 PM
excellent
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 September 2016, 05:54:15 PM
Really nice. :)
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: paulr on 27 September 2016, 06:53:14 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: petercooman on 27 September 2016, 06:54:05 PM
Looks great to me!
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: toxicpixie on 27 September 2016, 07:30:56 PM
Very nice! Most impressive :)

How soon for Sumer itself :D
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Techno on 27 September 2016, 08:49:04 PM
Very nice indeed, Mike !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Ithoriel on 27 September 2016, 10:10:22 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 27 September 2016, 07:30:56 PM
Very nice! Most impressive :)

How soon for Sumer itself :D

Got a chance to see the new Ancients buildings that Leven Miniatures are going to be producing, at "Joy of Six." I'm already planning a substantial expansion of my Sumerian city when those come out!

There were some pics posted on TMP - baker's, minor temple, guard post, house/ shop, workshop. I'm planning on having a donkey cart builder in one of the latter, all being well!

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dpiDc-Ck8ro/V1fZnIIREQI/AAAAAAACPbg/pCJKdefbh7kDa-cVe4qFP2rVS3MVY-_PgCLcB/s1600/13178803_1096474430410101_8846628639812099257_n.jpg)(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-q_twdap2iVw/V1fZm-QizaI/AAAAAAACPbU/IPBgTZp5Q3QtZUpFQAo6HjegdPPh656-wCLcB/s1600/13230162_1096474407076770_3121278374567330576_n.jpg)(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2fZoFrkoTHo/V1fZnDpPAtI/AAAAAAACPbc/gdJxkqKp7QMBnqXGBOlonoqZzm1P74FlwCLcB/s1600/13260104_1096474517076759_8769964951434161851_n.jpg)(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z3nQJ8oYHdQ/V1fZnm8sKLI/AAAAAAACPbo/-snn6gM78uYXTaw1-PiH3CmdjtXqspgpgCLcB/s1600/13260166_1096474447076766_1158002819285338973_n.jpg)(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sCVJeT9qkmY/V1fZn7wb67I/AAAAAAACPbw/y-sOHCmYF_kTjMKbfi5OfVV3iSvQUWdLQCLcB/s1600/13266086_1096474490410095_2176541542441157326_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: toxicpixie on 27 September 2016, 10:20:21 PM
Ooo, now they're nice! I wonder if they'd do ok on a BUA base for 10mm Hittites...
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Ithoriel on 27 September 2016, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 27 September 2016, 10:20:21 PM
Ooo, now they're nice! I wonder if they'd do ok on a BUA base for 10mm Hittites...

Mick said they were originally done as a commission for a model of Jerusalem but I reckon they'd do for much of the ancient Near East.

The Hittites, like the Sumerians seem to have gone in for houses with few to no external windows, relying instead on a central light well. On the other hand I've just passed Mick some pictures of Sumerian houses in hopes he might make one or two so who knows, proper Hittite housing might be in the offing?
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Techno on 28 September 2016, 06:19:52 AM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 27 September 2016, 10:20:21 PM
Ooo, now they're nice! I wonder if they'd do ok on a BUA base for 10mm Hittites...

Seconded !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 September 2016, 08:21:49 AM
Hmm, ok... well, either way, tempting... argh, like I need more shiny things!
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Subedai on 28 September 2016, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 01 June 2016, 12:21:58 AM
Hello

If it doesn't work out and you're not sure of what they looked like you could always try the Mongolian Yurts. Who can tell you you're wrong  :D :D

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/MON14.JPG)

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/MON19.JPG)

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/MON18.JPG)

The small one (last pic) could work with 6mm.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Look, if people here ask for very specific info on the lace colour or of the 3rd Monarch's Own Council Estate Borderers during the War of Upper Pangean Independence then surely they can write ger instead of yurt. Yurt is a Turkic word that refers to a dwelling of a more permanent nature than the nomadic Mongolian ger.

Just saying.   :D :D

MickS
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 September 2016, 12:06:12 PM
Bloody hell Mick, next you'll be asking for Mongol heavies in horse armour!

Or even an entire range for them :D

How did either the Mongols or Sumerians fare against Aztecs btw?
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 September 2016, 12:15:11 PM
Been there, converted them...
Title: Re: The MAR.TU who know no house nor town
Post by: Subedai on 28 September 2016, 03:54:28 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 28 September 2016, 12:06:12 PM
Bloody hell Mick, next you'll be asking for Mongol heavies in horse armour!

Or even an entire range for them :D

How did either the Mongols or Sumerians fare against Aztecs btw?

I know, terrible isn't it. Still flying the flag for armoured horses though.  :)