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Title: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: Sojka on 26 May 2016, 04:16:55 PM
Hello!

I began painting some of my Americans today, and noticed that my pack of mortars came with 6 figures (4 loaders in 2 poses, and 2 figures with binoculars) and 1 mortar. The description on the website says it should have 3 mortars? And I based on the casts, I am guessing each should have a crew of 3 figures? Can anyone let me know how many men and mortars this pack normally has, so I know who to put where?

I want to play Chain of Command with them, and normally CoC calls for single basing figures; I've never liked single basing things like mortars and MGs in any scale, as it's a pain to move them around, and I certainly am not going to do it in 10mm. I will use a small dice as a counter for the stand. Does anyone else play CoC with 10mm? Does 3 on the base seem fine, or should I place 2?

I am planning on running a US Armored infantry platoon, which has a mortar squad of 9 men: A Staff Sergeant, 2 gunners, 2 ammo handler/loaders, 2 riflemen, and 2 drivers. Can someone who knows more than me explain perhaps what each would do, and how many actually would serve the mortars? What would each man in this squad do in combat, when they were called on to provide fire? I am guessing the "drivers" do not just, you know, sit in the halftrack.

Thanks, and sorry for my many questions. I would like to represent them as well as i can.

Sojka
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: fsn on 26 May 2016, 04:24:16 PM
Think you're two mortars short, Sir.

A quick e-mail to Leon will sort you out.
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: Leon on 26 May 2016, 04:30:02 PM
Apologies for the missing items there, if you can pop me an email either through the website or to d.pengilley AT btinternet.com we'll get those sorted out for you.
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: Sojka on 26 May 2016, 04:31:35 PM
It's no worry at all! I was wanting to make another order anyway, you can just toss in the missing bits if you like? I'd still love advice on what the various folks in the mortar squad would be doing =D

I did email you, Mr. Leon sir, and placed another order. 13 minutes from forum post to response, that may be a world record for service speed!


Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: Leon on 26 May 2016, 04:51:19 PM
Quote from: Sojka on 26 May 2016, 04:31:35 PM
It's no worry at all! I was wanting to make another order anyway, you can just toss in the missing bits if you like? I'd still love advice on what the various folks in the mortar squad would be doing =D

I did email you, Mr. Leon sir, and placed another order. 13 minutes from forum post to response, that may be a world record for service speed!

Order and email received, we'll get those all sorted for you.

8)
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: Sojka on 26 May 2016, 04:56:03 PM
Thank you! You're awesome  :) :)
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: fred. on 26 May 2016, 05:59:30 PM
We've played quite a lot of CoC in 10mm.

I would recommend basing up the mortar and a couple of crew on 1 base. Its easy to mark losses on multiple bases, and single based 10mm figures are a bit fiddly to move around, 2 or 3 on a base are much easier.
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: fred. on 26 May 2016, 06:03:23 PM
As to your question about the various crew - moving ammo was the main role of the various men in heavy weapons units. Ammo is big and heavy and lots of it can be used very quickly.

As to the drivers - in British doctrine it was normal to get the vehicles back into cover, not sure what the US doctrine was. Drivers would tend to stay with their vehicles if there was any legitimate reason to do so, rather than getting involved in combat.

Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: Sojka on 26 May 2016, 06:08:43 PM
Thank you for the answers! I think I'll just do 2 teams of 3 + mortar on the base, and then base the squad NCO singly. I can always base a pair of riflemen together if i need to round out numbers.

They're a bit fiddly to single base, sure enough, but I like them. 15's just a shade too big, 6 is a shade to small, but 10 is perfect
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: fred. on 26 May 2016, 06:26:22 PM
Yes, definitely base NCOs and officers separately - they are important in CoC. I based mine on small round washers, and my normal infantry 2 figures on 30x15mm bases.

I agree with your thinking on 15s vs 10s vs 6s!
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: petercooman on 26 May 2016, 06:59:19 PM
I based my guys all on 1 eurocent pieces and things like hmg's as a team on 5 eurocents:


(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC03316_zpsmvwhulqh.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/DSC03316_zpsmvwhulqh.jpg.html)

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC03319_zpsiccmhvhx.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/DSC03319_zpsiccmhvhx.jpg.html)


As you can see, the mortar and crew are based separate
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC03315_zps5xqh7pja.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/DSC03315_zps5xqh7pja.jpg.html)

And here a pic of the hmg on 5 cent base (obscured by the building):

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC03314_zpsdqyntdjz.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/DSC03314_zpsdqyntdjz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: Sojka on 27 May 2016, 11:10:43 AM
I like the idea of single basing a lot, but I worry it will require me to spread them out much more, and mess with command distances and so on, plus possibly cause issues with simply "fitting" them in certain spots.
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: petercooman on 27 May 2016, 12:52:11 PM
Can't comment on that, as i use USE ME wwII, and those rules don't use command distance.
Title: Re: A38 pack Question and Basing My Mortars
Post by: Wulf on 27 May 2016, 01:11:25 PM
I play CoC in 10mm, I base my mortars & small guns on 1p coins with one figure - the gunner - and the others on crescent moon bases I make from thick card - they fit around the coin with a minimum of space used. Bigger guns I would base differently, but as I'm gaming 1940 France & Barbarossa the guns tend to be small...