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Title: Ottoman Sipahis c. 1700
Post by: Druzhina on 12 May 2016, 05:06:06 AM
In this modern plate:
(http://www.ottoman-uniforms.com/s/cc_images/cache_41478674.jpg?t=1422659501)
the "Spahis" are based on:
(http://www.ottoman-uniforms.com/s/cc_images/teaserbox_37712296.jpg?t=1414222421)
and:
(http://www.ottoman-uniforms.com/s/cc_images/cache_37894781.jpg?t=1414625997)

These are from Plates dated 1805 from an album labelled: Vorstellung der vorzuglichsten Gattungen des Türckischen Militairs und ihrer Officiere (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/Ottoman/byEuropeans/1805-Ottoman_Soldiers.htm) in The Vinkhuijzen collection of military uniforms, NYPL (http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/collections/the-vinkhuijzen-collection-of-military-uniforms#/?tab=navigation&roots=29:f18c16f0-c55d-012f-782c-58d385a7bc34)

Although two of these plates are copied from:
The Great Lord in ceremonial dress for the day of Beiram, after Jean-Baptiste Vanmour (Van Mour), 1671-1737 (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/Ottoman/Vanmour/Le_grand_seigneur_en_habit_de_ceremonie.htm) and Sadrazam, the Grand Vizier, in Ceremonial Dress and Turban, after Vanmour (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/Ottoman/Vanmour/Visir.htm) which date to circa 1699-1708, there is nothing to indicate that others date to anything other than 1805.

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=416272&t=w)
This uncropped version has a caption that indicates it is a Deli (scout), so not a sipahi.

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=416273&t=w)
1805 is also marked on the Cavalry from Baghdad.

For Ottoman Sipahis that are c. 1700 see:
Sipahi or Turkish Cavalryman after Jean-Baptiste Vanmour (Van Mour), 1699 to 1708 (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/Ottoman/Vanmour/Spahis-ou_cavalier_turc.htm)
A battle between the Ottoman and Hungarian armies, Hamse (quintet) of the Ottoman Turkish poet and scholar 'Ata'ullah bin Yahyá 'Ata'i, copied and illustrated by Heyrullah Heyri Çavuszade in 1721AD (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/Ottoman/Hamse-Walters-W666-27A.htm)

Druzhina
Illustrations of Ottoman Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/Ottoman/Ottoman.htm)
Title: Re: Ottoman Sipahis c. 1700
Post by: Techno on 12 May 2016, 06:01:53 AM
 8)

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Ottoman Sipahis c. 1700
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 May 2016, 06:22:35 AM
Sweet D!
Title: Re: Ottoman Sipahis c. 1700
Post by: fred. on 12 May 2016, 06:40:40 AM
Good stuff. Interesting to see the re-use of original illustrations through the centuries.
Title: Re: Ottoman Sipahis c. 1700
Post by: Sandinista on 12 May 2016, 07:03:13 AM
thanks for the info

cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Ottoman Sipahis c. 1700
Post by: Steve J on 12 May 2016, 10:40:51 AM
Very useful info indeed.