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Title: Campaigns
Post by: Rob on 02 May 2016, 01:51:59 PM
I wonder if those more knowledgeable than me can help. My rules have an integral simple campaign system and although not mandatory it certainly gives battles context, sorts out who's attacking or defending and what troops are available. I've been using the Malcolm McCallum's maps http://www.murat.ca/maps.htm (http://www.murat.ca/maps.htm) which for a free download are excellent.

My problem is the campaign maps and real life. I have run very successful 1814 and 1815 campaigns at home but they are not practical for a club evening. Paper maps with cardboard markers are fiddly, takeup space, open to silly errors and can be time consuming when it comes to carrying data forward in the campaign.

What I would like to do is use the Malcolm McCallum's maps on-line or find some mapmaking software to do my own. The idea is to make the moves on-line and use email so the club meeting is just for the battle.

Does anyone know of any reasonably priced software that would give me this?

Cheers, Rob   :) :)
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 May 2016, 02:12:53 PM
The Timecast lads use a PDF of the historical maps, superimposed into word, then small text boxes to represent formations, easily allows stacking, and if players want they can print a full version of the map (although for 1866 it was taller than Barrie)
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Ithoriel on 02 May 2016, 02:40:34 PM
I use The GIMP for photo editing and the like and have used that to do a 3-player, Sumerian era, map campaign.

If you can get your head around how layers work it can let you do some smart stuff with campaign maps. I had a clean copy of the base map and a file of symbols for cities, forts, fleets and armies. The map layer was static. The settlements layer only needed edited if a city or fort changed hands. The units layer was updated every move.
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: fsn on 02 May 2016, 03:09:47 PM
Interested, I Googled GIMP.

:o
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Rob on 02 May 2016, 03:14:57 PM
Thanks for the quick responses chaps.

Lemmy; that sounds do-able. I have Visio and have been playing around with that. I can insert the maps into a Visio and add boxes to represent brigades etc. The good thing here is when saved Visio remembers what was behind the shapes so as I move them the map doesnt get destroyed. Not everyone will have Visio so I must save as a word doc and email. Return moves must be given as text intructions which I can then transfer to the Visio map, save as word an email.

Ithorial; I must say that sounds very good. I've had a look on-line and it's free. Happy days. I'll have a play and report back.

Thanks  :) :)
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Rob on 02 May 2016, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: fsn on 02 May 2016, 03:09:47 PM
Interested, I Googled GIMP.

:o


I dare not ask why  >:(
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: fsn on 02 May 2016, 03:18:15 PM
Ithoriel says he used it for photo editing.

I'm a long time Photoshop user.
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Rob on 02 May 2016, 03:19:18 PM
Phew  :D ;D
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Ithoriel on 02 May 2016, 04:00:06 PM
Yes, The GIMP is a term to search for with care, for sure :)

NSFW, at least not with the sound up!

Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 02 May 2016, 08:11:03 PM
Hello Rob

I just came across this but haven't had a chance to play with it yet:-
https://sites.google.com/site/artofwarfare2/home (https://sites.google.com/site/artofwarfare2/home).

Alternatively you could look at stuff like Cyberboard or Vassal pbem game systems

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 02 May 2016, 11:05:09 PM
Hello Rob

There is also Campaigner - http://download.cnet.com/Campaigner/3000-2121_4-10867850.html (http://download.cnet.com/Campaigner/3000-2121_4-10867850.html) - Free

Just going back over my software, I'd recommend Cyberboard - http://cyberboard.brainiac.com/ (http://cyberboard.brainiac.com/) it's very good. Boardgame examples are here http://www.limeyyankgames.co.uk/cyberboard (http://www.limeyyankgames.co.uk/cyberboard) - Free

tutorial on using Cyberboard for Friedrich with an example map, counters, etc http://friedrich.muster-roll.com/Friedrich/Default.aspx (http://friedrich.muster-roll.com/Friedrich/Default.aspx)

(http://friedrich.muster-roll.com/Friedrich/Images/board.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Rob on 03 May 2016, 09:27:33 PM
Thanks Grumpy, you are a star.  :)

I think there all a bit BIG for my needs. What I mean is they will need formatting and are a game in their own right rather than being an add-on that gives context to my games. I think they could still be used but for fighting full capaigns with multiple players, whereas my campaign rules would cover the action when opponents meet in the same hex.
I think the low tech answers involving copying the maps and placing symbols on them will be the short term answer.

You certainly do have a talent for unearthing interesting items Grumpy. Thanks again.  :)

Cheers, Rob  :) :)
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Ithoriel on 04 May 2016, 12:03:13 AM
Quote from: Rob on 03 May 2016, 09:27:33 PM
Thanks Grumpy, you are a star.  :)

You certainly do have a talent for unearthing interesting items Grumpy. Thanks again.  :)

I'll second those sentiments!
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: paulr on 04 May 2016, 05:11:12 AM
Thirded  :)
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Womble67 on 04 May 2016, 08:31:16 AM
Quote from: Rob on 03 May 2016, 09:27:33 PM
Thanks Grumpy, you are a star.  :)

You certainly do have a talent for unearthing interesting items Grumpy. Thanks again.  :)


Agreed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 05 May 2016, 02:27:01 AM
Hello Chaps

Thanks for the kind words... or are they accusations  :D :D.

I've had an interest in virtual tabletop and electronic campaigns for a long time so I had most of this stuff stashed away, it was just a matter of refreshing the memory.

Heather (SWMBO) would say that I don't need any encouragement to sit on the interweb chasing down obscure things  ;D ;D.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Campaigns
Post by: Rob on 14 May 2016, 12:14:53 PM
Reporting back.

Downloaded GIMP and had a play and I must say for a free download it is excellent. Had a go with the layering feature and I can see how it could be used to add items onto the map such as fortresses etc. I couldn't see any major advantages over Visio for dealing with troop movement on maps so as I use Visio professionally it makes sense for me to use it as my medium.

The way it will work is I will email the map and the starting positions of the Movement Units (These are brigades). Both sides will email me back their moves and I will transfer that to the map doing any dicing necessary for forced marches, pursuit attrition etc, and so on punctuated by resulting battles. Battles will be decided as Wargames and the results transferred to the map. I hope to get one of the opponents to be a long distance one so that I can fight his battles.

I hadn't thought of doing it this method before and it was the posts that sparked the solution, so thanks chaps.

Cheers, Rob  :)  :)