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Title: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: Maenoferren on 17 September 2010, 08:46:48 PM
I was considering having a go at making  film crew etc for my game, but havent got the first clue how,, well apart from needing to make the figure with milliput or something similar? :-[ :-[
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: nikharwood on 17 September 2010, 08:54:41 PM
Procreate will be your friend [eventually!] - here's a nice little intro:

http://www.stormthecastle.com/miniatures/products-clays/procreate-putty.htm
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: Leon on 17 September 2010, 09:09:59 PM
You'll need a basic armature, then build it up 'til you've got something you're happy with.

I've been looking at getting some Procreate in, would it be of interest to anyone?
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: Maenoferren on 17 September 2010, 09:14:00 PM
so make the armature from wire, then cover with the putty stuff? A doddle! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I didnt say what it would end up like mind lol :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: Leon on 17 September 2010, 09:16:23 PM
Quote from: Maenoferren on 17 September 2010, 09:14:00 PM
so make the armature from wire, then cover with the putty stuff? A doddle! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I didnt say what it would end up like mind lol :-[ :-[ :-[

Pretty much.  Although I'm sure some of the designers who frequent these parts may have slightly better input than me!
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: Maenoferren on 17 September 2010, 09:21:15 PM
I will soon be the proud owner of a 10mm 'morph' with a film camera :-[ :-[
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: nikharwood on 17 September 2010, 09:49:47 PM
Quote from: Leon on 17 September 2010, 09:09:59 PM
I've been looking at getting some Procreate in, would it be of interest to anyone?

Yep, me for one. You're turning into a nice one-stop shop y'know  8)
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: clibinarium on 17 September 2010, 09:53:34 PM
The trick is not to be to ambitious with your first go. Find a figure that could be converted into a cameraman, eg. a guy firing/aiming a bazooka or similar, then get going with the wire and the putty. Then get progressively more ambitious with conversions and eventually you'll be  able to do figures from scratch.

If you try to do a figure from scratch straight away you'll probably fail; I did, and didn't have another go for about five years!
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: count_zero99uk on 18 September 2010, 12:10:46 AM
My greenstuff is still in my drawer, i havent had the nerve to give anything a go yet.

Anyone know if you can do weapons with greenstuff?
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: nikharwood on 18 September 2010, 06:50:28 AM
Yes you can  8)

Have a look here:  http://www.heresyminiatures.com/tools.htm

Andy suggests which putty he uses for sculpting various component parts of a figure.
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: Maenoferren on 18 September 2010, 08:58:12 AM
So if I get a figure and file him down to basic dummy size and then build it up with the putty. the ideal figures I have for this would be my bearers, typically these are the ones that I painted first  :-\
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: republic of tolworth on 18 September 2010, 09:44:02 AM
Well I'm trying a few basic conversions for my 18thC forces. As Clib said start small with a few head swops and adding/taking packs.

I've found the hats from the AWI casualty range a good start.

Just be prepared to drop bits,swear and put drill bits in fingers :-[
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: Pruneau on 17 October 2010, 06:45:52 PM
I am a regular user of pro-create and magic sculp.  However, since I mainly do 28 mm figs, and mainly one off, these products tend to last a long time.  I also have green stuff, fimo (oven baked) and 2 kinds of milliput.  So it can be months before I buy anything.

For medieval weapons I tend to use copper band, rather than make them from scratch.  Guns are part sculpted, part metal parts, part resin parts.  However I imagine 10 mm fire weapons can be made from copper band as well.  If building from scratch magic sculp is nice because it can be sanded well.  Hard to get the straight edges otherwise.

I once made an ugly 10 mm duck warrior, and I learned quite a bit from that, for one that like in 28 mm you need to have the wire frame just right before you start adding putty.  And you need to think about position even more than for 28 mm, cause modding after the fact is gonna be a pain.  Then again, I'm just an amateur.
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 October 2010, 07:09:37 PM
Dos anyone remember that Not the 9 o'Clock News episode where they showed cars being put through an hydraulic compactor for a minute or two, then cut to Matchbox cars rolling out on a production line in a toy factory? If only one could really do that with 25mm Aztecs, Cossacks, Ming Chinese, Japanese warrior monks....A sort of 3D reduction copier is what we need.
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: Maenoferren on 17 October 2010, 07:53:01 PM
QuoteA sort of 3D reduction copier is what we need.
damn just sold mine on Ebay   :-[ :-[
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: agtfos on 02 January 2011, 01:11:13 PM
Yup and a replicator and then everyone would be out of business.
Seriously though, there are some amazing 3d 'printers' out there that make models from scratch.
Thankfully Pendraken is still more economical
Title: Re: How do I make a figure in 10mm
Post by: Pruneau on 02 January 2011, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: agtfos on 02 January 2011, 01:11:13 PM
Yup and a replicator and then everyone would be out of business.
Seriously though, there are some amazing 3d 'printers' out there that make models from scratch.
Thankfully Pendraken is still more economical

Indeed, I have seen quite a few compact 3D sculpting machine demonstrations during the Kunststoff Exhibition in Duesseldorf last year.  They even had a color sculpter, that used layers of different colors to assemble a model.  Very impressive.