I'm a bit late getting this up, apologies for that!
The world famous Salute show takes place this weekend, Saturday 16th April, at the Excel Centre in London. We always look forward to this day and the chaos it brings, so we'll hopefully see some of you there.
We'll have a large selection of clearance/bargain items with us at this weekend's Salute show, so make sure to come by and have a rummage!
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These are mainly product lines we're no longer stocking, so there's all sorts of goodies in here, including:
- A selection of palm/deciduous trees, bagged in 50's for only £10 per bag!
- Some MDF buildings and bridges in both 28mm and 10mm scales. Discounted by between 20% and 70%!
- Some 10mm scale bunkers and gabions, all prices reduced by around 40%!
- A couple of 1:150th scale Vasa warships for those looking for a modelling project!
- Pendraken will also have some items which are no longer carried on our show stand, including some Medieval army packs and a selection of WWII vehicles, all in 10mm scale of course!
We're on stand TH07, so make sure to pop by and grab some bargains before they all sell out!
8)
Not more temptation!!!
Not when it's in that there London.
Bugger. Would have probably bought a load of that stuff.
Not going to London, nor Salute, though.
Nor me.
Nor I. :(
Alas, too far for me too.
Reminds me that I must get an order together for Carronade however.
Me neither.
I will be :) but I hope to avoid last year's errr. ... 'situation '
A friend and myself decided to do the Punic wars using sword and spear. Naturally I pointed us to Pendraken although in the event of fairness we decided to check out Baccus as well.
After viewing said manufacturers we decided to go for a beer and decide. Well several later and feeling a little light headed (probably the altitude ) went back into the show and promptly bought Victrix as the stall was near the entrance !
So a year later I have 6 painted Trirarii and 124 half built.
Oh well........add them to the 'one day' pile
Too far for me
Too far, too busy, too noisy, far too expensive, nothing I can get there that I can't get anywhere else.
I've never been but it is on my bucket list of things to do
Take care
Andy
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 13 April 2016, 02:04:05 PM
Too far, too busy, too noisy, far too expensive, nothing I can get there that I can't get anywhere else.
Apart form 'too far' I agree with everything else. I live about 35 miles away but I worked out it would cost me not much short of £40 just to get there on public transport and to get in! That's a Battlepack and then some more little chaps.
Quote from: Subedai on 13 April 2016, 03:01:32 PM
Apart form 'too far' I agree with everything else. I live about 35 miles away but I worked out it would cost me not much short of £40 just to get there on public transport and to get in! That's a Battlepack and then some more little chaps.
I'm a minimum of 416 miles away according to Google and if I'm going that far for a wargames show I might as well go to Crisis in Antwerp, they have good beer there.
Wait a minute, I am going to Crisis, whoopee doo.
Anyone else going?
Should ave offered it at a show in a proper location, not to the d*Mned soferners
IanS
Quote from: ianrs54 on 13 April 2016, 05:21:07 PM
Should ave offered it at a show in a proper location, not to the d*Mned soferners
Battleground in Middlesbrough?! ;) :D
Least you aren't ripping people off, or making excessive profits.
IanS
Quote from: ianrs54 on 13 April 2016, 06:28:37 PM
Least you aren't ripping people off, or making excessive profits.
Depends what you class as excessive profits though I suppose? The hire of the ExCeL is at least £75,000, plus they've got to pay extra to hire the venue's security staff I believe. Tables, chairs, event insurance and advertising will come to a tidy sum on top of that, plus the giveaway bags and paying the club members to turn up and help out on the day. I'm sure they make a nice bit of money at the end of it, but so would I after spending over £100k to put on an event!
any chance of a list of the stuff for those not going to Salute would be interested in,
me I'm interseted in the Medieval army packs, 10mm MDF buildings, WWII vehicles :)
QuoteToo far, too busy, too noisy, far too expensive, nothing I can get there that I can't get anywhere else.
Well I hadn't planned on going but then I was asked by an a friend (Michael Leck of Dalauppror fame) to help out with their Lion Rampant demo game. I couldn't refuse. Otherwise I would not have bothered going.
I agree that it is a bit far, as for me it's around 6 hrs driving there and back. It is noisy but you can escape into the main concourse for a break or to the riverside. £12 is a bit steep but then Leon's post re: the costs involved put it into perspective. It is certainly very well organised and easy to get around. Last year I didn't feel it was too busy at all, given that there were around 6,ooo attendees if memory serves me correctly. personally I like to look at the games on display, have a look at what's new, meet up with friends and have a chat. Shopping is secondary for me, even though I will be picking stuff up.
Quote from: old smokie on 13 April 2016, 07:08:51 PM
any chance of a list of the stuff for those not going to Salute would be interested in,
me I'm interseted in the Medieval army packs, 10mm MDF buildings, WWII vehicles :)
I'll see what's left over after Salute and might put a list up here. If there's much left we'll be bringing it all up to Falkirk as well.
I'll be there. Haven't missed a show since the Kensington high street years!
Sounds like a period of licentious living.
OHH A discounted Rummage box!!!!
I will have to see you nice and early on.
Never turn down a good rummage in someone's "box"
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 14 April 2016, 08:12:06 PM
OHH A discounted Rummage box!!!!
I will have to see you nice and early on.
:-bd
Quote from: Leon on 13 April 2016, 05:27:43 PM
Battleground in Middlesbrough?! ;) :D
:-\
I thought it was listed as being from Stockton-on-Tees.
Middlesbrough is historically part of North Yorkshire - as its south of the River Tees
Stockton-on-Tees is historically part of County Durham - as its north of the River Tees
So, is Battleground a North Yorkshire show? Or a County Durham show?
And, yes, these things do matter [to a Yorkshireman!] :D
It should be a North Yorkshire show Roy as the venue is technically on the south side of the Tees :) :)
Quote from: skywalker on 15 April 2016, 11:17:06 AM
It should be a North Yorkshire show Roy as the venue is technically on the south side of the Tees :) :)
=D> =D> =D> <:-P =D> =D> =D>
[waits for someone to bring along the spanner named "Cleveland"]
If anyone's interested... The Pendraken FB page has updated to say they've arrived and are stuck in a big queue to get in!
Greetings
Thanks to Dave and Leon for spending a few minutes to chat at Salute today. I hope the day was satisfactory for Pendraken.
Leon and I chatted about future developments including BKC, Panzer III with 5cm kurz and tripod MG34s!
Regards
Edward
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 13 April 2016, 03:28:08 PM
I'm a minimum of 416 miles away according to Google...
No matter how many time I ask - or how nicely - Google refuses to give me the driving distance :(
I use classic AA route planner. I gives the distance, time and directions, all for free :)
Some initial thoughts on the day:
Seemed much busier than last year (6K advance tickets sales).
Much more space around the dispay/demo games, so easier to see what's going on.
Lighting gave me and my chums a headache and the acoustics as well.
So much to see that it's hard to take it all in.
When mind and body rested will put some thoughts on my Blog.
Quote from: d_Guy on 16 April 2016, 06:51:38 PM
No matter how many time I ask - or how nicely - Google refuses to give me the driving distance :(
I think you head for New York, turn right and keep going for three and a half thousand miles. You have to leave your car at New York though!
Quote from: Steve J on 16 April 2016, 07:45:16 PM
I use classic AA route planner. I gives the distance, time and directions, all for free
Dang! It didn't work either! ;)
Thanks for the intial report however :)
The largest I've been to is HISTORICON - perhaps half the attendance on the biggest day.
Hope the Pendrakeneers did well!
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 16 April 2016, 07:46:37 PM
I think you head for New York, turn right and keep going for three and a half thousand miles. You have to leave your car at New York though!
I'm waiting for the tunnel! :D
Quote from: d_Guy on 16 April 2016, 08:15:18 PM
I'm waiting for the tunnel! :D
Trump will get it blocked, can't have any non-mericans having easy access.
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 16 April 2016, 08:41:09 PM
Trump will get it blocked, can't have any non-mericans having easy access.
It will be a big, beautiful one-way tunnel!
Was good to have a chat with the Pendraken guys today, seemed to be a good turnout as usual.
Quote from: slinky on 16 April 2016, 09:03:17 PM
Was good to have a chat with the Pendraken guys today, seemed to be a good turnout as usual.
What!
There was time to chat?
Was always told that each trader had a 6 deep scrum in front of them.
Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 15 April 2016, 08:16:13 AM
So, is Battleground a North Yorkshire show? Or a County Durham show?
And, yes, these things do matter [to a Yorkshireman!] :D
I think you meant to ask if it was a North Riding show
How anything can be 'historically' part of North Yorkshire is beyond me.
Hello everyone!!
I'm back in France, excellent day at Salute, and really happy to have met Leon (even if it was a few minutes)
what a pity that we do not have such an event in France ...... but why am I not English ??
eric
Eric,
You are not English because:
You have:
Pride, sophistication, taste, manners, a refined palate, culture, democracy, liberty, style, and most importantly, a healthy distrust of the rich and Royals!
Quote from: bradpitre on 17 April 2016, 11:27:21 AM
but why am I not English ??
Just proves the Flanders and Swann point - THE ENGLISH ARE BEST. I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest. It's not that they are naturally bad - it's the fact that they are foreign that makes them so mad......
;) ;) ;) :D :D ;D ;D ;D
IanS
Quote from: mad lemmey on 17 April 2016, 11:38:57 AM
Eric,
You are not English because:
You have:
Pride, sophistication, taste, manners, a refined palate, culture, democracy, liberty, style, and most importantly, a healthy distrust of the rich and Royals!
Being French does not automatically qualify for "a refined palate", there is a couple of Frenchmen I know who's tipple of choice is.......Fosters Larger! :o :-&
Do you a swap Eric. You can have wargaming, rain, crap food, moaning xenophobes and fat women, I'll have the sunshine, space, best bread in the world, wine and slender young things who can discuss something other than fake tans and boy bands - quite happy to forego wargaming for that.
Quote from: bradpitre on 17 April 2016, 11:27:21 AM
...... but why am I not English ??
eric
We tried being English for a lengthy period a good while ago - we didn't care for it!
besides:
Vive la différence entre les nations d'autre ennui découle.
(Hopefully I said what I think I said - Google approved it - but the Google wouldn't let me drive to Salute!)
Actually you were English, Welsh, Scots, Irish but decided the government was a ton of crap. Bit like it is now over here.
Incidentally, Boris Johnson is making a big thing over Obama's comments about Americans not giving up their Sovereignty. As I understand it the USA is a group of 50 states, all of which have given up some of their sovereignty so that they can more effectively work together. Just saying.
Quote from: Leman on 17 April 2016, 05:19:11 PM
Actually you were English, Welsh, Scots, Irish but decided the government was a ton of crap. Bit like it is now over here.
Incidentally, Boris Johnson is making a big thing over Obama's comments about Americans not giving up their Sovereignty. As I understand it the USA is a group of 50 states, all of which have given up some of their sovereignty so that they can more effectively work together. Just saying.
Some --Well that was the theory up until our civil war then things began to alter for good and ill.. At the present time state sovereignty is essentially moribund depending on the desire (dare I say whim) of the federal government (IMHO).
Some thoughts on my visit to Salute can be found on my Blog:
http://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/salute-2016.html (http://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/salute-2016.html)
Also a few pics of the game I was involved in as well as a few others that caught my eye. I'm sure there are already loads to look at as lots of people were videoing, interviewing etc throughout the day:
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Good report and piccies, Steve.
Thanks for sharing !
Cheers - Phil
A quick search came up with this Blog, that has loads of good pics:
http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/2016-salute-pictures.html?showComment=1460921339347#c5734825370553420952 (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/2016-salute-pictures.html?showComment=1460921339347#c5734825370553420952)
It made me realise how much I didn't get to see! Next year maybe...
Thanks for that Steve
Well that was a surprise. Compared to the venues I tend to go to I thought it looked pretty soulless.
Steve, thanks for your blog comments, pics and the various links! Fun to get a sense of things.
Thanks to everyone who came along to Salute to see us this year, we had a great time and we're now happily recovering for a few hours before back to work tomorrow to empty the van and catch up on emails. We met a whole load of Forum members, so it was good to see you all (new and old!) and catch up for a few minutes.
Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 15 April 2016, 08:16:13 AM
So, is Battleground a North Yorkshire show? Or a County Durham show?
Both! As skywalker says, technically the venue is south of the river and should be Middlesbrough, but the Uni Campus has their address as Stockton so we went with that. I always say Middlesbrough as I think more people outside of the nort-east know where that is (probalbly due to the football club), but I do get told off by some folks for not classing it as Stockton.
Quote from: d_Guy on 16 April 2016, 08:13:39 PM
The largest I've been to is HISTORICON - perhaps half the attendance on the biggest day.
Coincidentally a chap came to see us about attending Historicon, so it might be something for the future... The main stumbling block is how to get all the stock over there and back again, safely and without it taking a couple of months. We'll need to do some serious research to see if it would be at all viable.
Quote from: Leon on 17 April 2016, 10:51:37 PM
Coincidentally a chap came to see us about attending Historicon, so it might be something for the future... The main stumbling block is how to get all the stock over there and back again, safely and without it taking a couple of months. We'll need to do some serious research to see if it would be at all viable.
Well that would be fantastic!
Uh - I have extra shelf space - should you require it! :D
Quote from: Leon on 17 April 2016, 10:51:37 PM
I always say Middlesbrough as I think more people outside of the nort-east know where that is (probalbly due to the football club),
Middlesbrough has a football club ? ;)
Cheers - Phil
QuoteCompared to the venues I tend to go to I thought it looked pretty soulless.
Short of a complete film set treatment, there is little that can be done to make it feel nicer as the place is huge. Colours is my favourite show as the venue is nice with great views, which just add to the experience.
I thought the lighting was much improved this year. looks like the lighting has been upgraded with LED's. Show seemed fairly busy. Unfortunately I was helping on a stand and did not see many of the games as when I got away from the stall I was either shopping or chatting with the other traders , most of which are old friends.
Background noise and stranding on the hard floor for 11 hours was as draining as usual. There seemed to be an increase in the Sci/Fi Fantasy traders and games, but then war gaming seems to go in trends, so this may change for next year.
The games I did see were all excellent and one or two were awe inspiring.
Interesting thread - thanks for those links to the photos.
Next time I get to the UK - haha - I'll have to arrange travel dates around one show like Salute! ;) - gaming wise there's just nothing like this here in NZ :( (or Oz I think - never been to Cancon so don't know what that's like).
Some lovely looking games, though got to say a couple of the fantasy games look a bit "over populated" with too many units to allow much manouvering.
Hopefully there's at least one trader at the local convention here in Wellington in August :o
We arrived around 10.30 and managed to gain entrance without standing in a queue
I last attended in 2014 and found the hall very crowded, this year the hall seemed larger and although there was a lot of people it didn't feel crowded.
I agree about the style of games, a lot being fantasy/steampunk/fantasy. All looked appealing to the eye but not to the wallet ;D
Some of the traders were hard to find but all I spoke to were very friendly and even if I didn't give them cash spent time talking abot their toys :)
It was a long day, up at 5am to get to Darlington station for the 6.30am train. Got home at 01.40am on Sunday due to train delay caused by a passenger taking ill on the service we had to join at Doncaster.
Would I do it again?
Yes provided I could get cheap train tickets.
Overall it was well organised and appealed to most tastes.
Quote from: pierre the shy on 18 April 2016, 11:02:42 AM
Next time I get to the UK - haha - I'll have to arrange travel dates around one show like Salute! ;) - gaming wise there's just nothing like this here in NZ :( (or Oz I think - never been to Cancon so don't know what that's like).
Come to Edinburgh in early August some year, bring the family and do SESWC's Claymore (1st Saturday in August) and then the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe. Gaming and culture in one package, how could you resist? I'll book a restaurant table :)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 18 April 2016, 11:55:31 AM
Come to Edinburgh in early August some year, bring the family and do SESWC's Claymore (1st Saturday in August) and then the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe. Gaming and culture in one package, how could you resist? I'll book a restaurant table :)
The weather will be nicer too!
No such thing as bad weather Jim, only inappropriate clothing ... or so one of my more outdoors-y friends keeps telling me :)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 18 April 2016, 01:30:03 PM
No such thing as bad weather Jim, only inappropriate clothing ... or so one of my more outdoors-y friends keeps telling me :)
Well in that case I am heading to where a pair of swimming shorts and a sunhat ARE appropriate clothing.
Just can't wait.
26 days and counting.
As Billy Connolly once said, if you don't like the weather in Scotland, wait 15 minutes and it will change. I always found it strange that he never actually said what it would change into.
Usually something worse.
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 18 April 2016, 06:38:57 AM
I thought the lighting was much improved this year. looks like the lighting has been upgraded with LED's.
The lighting got noticeably brighter while we were unpacking on the Friday afternoon, so they've either got new lights or someone put an extra 20p in the meter...
Quote from: Ithoriel on 18 April 2016, 11:55:31 AM
Come to Edinburgh in early August some year, bring the family and do SESWC's Claymore (1st Saturday in August) and then the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe. Gaming and culture in one package, how could you resist? I'll book a restaurant table :)
Sounds like a plan......off to buy a Lotto ticket now :)
I'd go back to the place you took us to last time....it was rather good.
This was my second visit to Salute, and I enjoyed it very much. Hoping to post some videos of the demo games soon. This year I bought only those shiny things I absolutely need. Honest.
(https://funkwagen.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/image.jpeg)
Cheers,
Aksu
That looks a nice shopping basket's worth, Aksu.
Look forward to the videos. :)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Subedai on 18 April 2016, 03:06:53 PM
As Billy Connolly once said, if you don't like the weather in Scotland, wait 15 minutes and it will change.
It's funny because it's bloody well true ;D
Quote from: Aksu on 19 April 2016, 05:34:27 AM
This was my second visit to Salute, and I enjoyed it very much. Hoping to post some videos of the demo games soon. This year I bought only those shiny things I absolutely need. Honest.
(https://funkwagen.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/image.jpeg)
Cheers,
Aksu
Shiny! :D
It probably
didn't help helped a lot that I had consumed the equivalent of a bottle of red wine before viewing this, but I found this video record of the show slightly mind blowing (courtesy of the
Von Peter Himself blog). You'll need about half an hour free time to view this.