Hi Chaps,
I was wondering if this rule set would be OK for 10MM? A Chap on here recommended it so obviously it is seeing some use, will stands of 4 or 5 figures be OK? If anyone had any hints or tips it would prove useful to me as I am considering embarking on a RCW project, base sizes and casualty recording would also be of interest to me.
For years I have considered the Back of Beyond then reconsidered because of the cost in 28mm.....!
This game is a PDF from Too Fat Lardies for £7 so even if it was not fit for purpose it would not break the bank but I am just trying to save myself some time reading them.....and I would rather the hobby money be spent on something I am going to use!
Thanks for any help.
They're a perfectly decent and reasonably well used set of rules and using them with 10mm would be no bother - I use If the Lord Saves Us (WW1 Middle East) which is a sort of sister set with 10mm perfectly well.
My only note of warning is that its one of the more elderly sets of TFL rules and is not presented with the clarity of more modern offerings. That said there's a lot of support material sprinkled through the Specials and it has been used for all sorts of odd conflicts.
It is brigade scale gaming though if you're after a more small scale Back of Beyond feel you might like to take a look at some of the Sharpe Practice derivatives.
Joining the TFL Forum and asking the question will probably get you better answers and perhaps a better feel for the product.
Thanks Zippee....good to know that it is set at Brigade level, this way I can use lots of different units. Maybe the few pounds spent on this will be worth it after all?
Hello Again CL
I'd have to agree with Zippee that Triumph of the Will is one of the more opaque Lardies rule sets. From what I can tell If the Lord Spare Us was derived from TOTW and, as a later version, is better written. Of course it doesn't have the fluff but you can extract that from the free Perfect Captain games :).
Also a lower level set is Return to the River Don from http://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com.au/search/label/Return%20to%20the%20River%20Don (http://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com.au/search/label/Return%20to%20the%20River%20Don) - Trebian has some other rules and also SCW rules which can be modified as well.
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Hi CL
We have used If the Lord Spares Us for quite a few different WW1 settings (France 1914 pre-trenches, Gallipoli and Mesopetamia) for brigade sized games in 10mm and they do give a good game. We've found them to be well written, easy to play and that they have a good balance between complexity, playibility and historical outcomes.
10mm figures (we use all Pendraken stuff ;) ) give a good mass scale effect too....you can see some 1914 game reports that I have put together with pictures in the Batreps folder if that helps. I am looking at getting some 28mm gendarmes to finish off my Duchy of Burgundy DBxx army and am looking at 3.50 to 4 pounds a figure compared to 4.95 for a pack of 15 10mm cavalry figures :-\
Good luck with your RCW project.
Cheers
Peter
Thanks for this information, it's particularly useful as I have not seen any of the rules or the figures yet! I will have a look at the batreps page.....I never thought to do that-infact I have been avoiding looking at other periods because they are so damned tempting!
What started out as a DBA army may become "the one" LOL. It is such a pity that 10mm does not get more coverage because it seems to paint up well and as you say the costs are actually pretty damned good. I recently paid £16 for 5 figures and a wheelbarrow from Foundry! I wanted the figures for an army but even now I cant look them in the eye because of the expense.
As its raining I may have to download the ruleset from 2 fatChaps and start some army lists. Thank you all for the help.
Bought a pack of Russian marching infantry, artillery and mg pack to try out/explore the Triumph of the Will rules. Never seen a 10mm figure yet but this site has infectious enthusiasm flowing out of it!
Busying myself now scratch building a few houses and bridges for this mystery scale. Feels like Christmas!
Hello Carl
For just trying out rules I've found these top down paper figures to be handy:-
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/figureList/topdowns#88 (http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/figureList/topdowns#88)
These should get you going for a trial run:-
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/view/BolshevikTopDowns (http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/view/BolshevikTopDowns)
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/view/WhiteRussianTopDowns (http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/view/WhiteRussianTopDowns)
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/view/Tanks3 (http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/view/Tanks3)
Cheers
GrumpyOldman
:D Wow thanks for this Grumpy! These will be so useful! I will be moving troops around this evening....very very kind of you to supply the link.
After a read through the rules seem very interesting....not at all like what I have encountered before. Army lists will be compiled next....no doubt with another order or two for figures