Hi,
I was wondering if anyone scratch builds their 10MM buildings? In an attempt to keep costs down I would like to try to make a few peasant huts for Eastern Europe. The door size I got from this forum...roughly 15X6MM but what would you recommend for wall lengths and floor heights?
Thanks in advance.
Have a look at Supreme Littleness and his huypts, they are superb
By the time you have faffed around with all that you may have saved a couple of quid, but used up a great deal of time. The Supreme Littleness MDF peasant huts are really very good and affordable, and all the legwork is done for you.
Thanks for this Mr Mad....will have a look now
Thanks Leman I will take a look at those too......you may be right about the time thing!
I make nearly all my own terrain and my rule of thumb is using the figure scale for the height of the door and then add 4mm for 10mm for the roof level, taking any eaves up from that. Width is about 5mm. I tend to make windows about 5mm square and usually have the top of the window in line with the top of the door. If you use those basic measurements it becomes quite easy to work out what looks right for the walls. If you work in multiples of 5mm you will get a minimum frontage 25mm -allowing 5mm between door, window and wall ends and you can make the side walls anything from 15mm upwards. That would be your basic building.
There's a link here to the thread with a picture, there are more pics on the blog.
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9838.msg116287.html#msg116287
And on the blog
http://thewordsofsubedai.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/more-10mm-buildings-for-eastern-europe.html
I tend to go with a 10mm high door and reduce the height a bit as well, as i think proper scale 10mm looks too big with wargames figures. I'm not convinced that 6mm buildings look better but something halfway suits my tastes
Cheers
Ian
Thanks for the info Chaps.Subedai, just followed your blog, very useful to have the sizes. Your gaming seems very well presented and I am enjoying reading about your travels as my son goes to Poland with his school in a year.
I have never even seen a 10mm figure yet so all this is very new. Just waiting for the postie and I can use one of the figures to help me see what will look right.
I still can't properly visualise 10mm minis after years of use! I keep thinking of something more like 20mm until I get them in my hands, either figures or vehicles... OTOH, I know 10mm buildings well, having printed plenty from various downloads & assembled them! As I game skirmish games & use building interiors, I prefer my buildings a bit OVER 10mm scale, more like 15mm, simply so I can get figures in & out with my great ham fists...
I like to have a village base, occupancy of which is the only relevant combat modifier (that is to so, no house-to-house actions in minute detail, since I don't generally care for skirmish actions). On this base I place 6mm houses and other props as may contribute to the general period effect.
Quote from: CarlLeyland on 01 April 2016, 11:28:22 AM
Thanks for the info Chaps.Subedai, just followed your blog, very useful to have the sizes. Your gaming seems very well presented and I am enjoying reading about your travels as my son goes to Poland with his school in a year.
Thanks for the comments.
If your lad likes his food I can recommend the little stalls which are everywhere selling
zapiekankie. They are like half a baguette cut lengthways and similar to a pizza with a large variety of available toppings with a Polish slant on things. They also have street vendors selling various types of large pretzel which make a great midday snack. Admittedly Krakow is a major tourist destination but the amount of people who spoke very passable English was very helpful because my Polish is almost beyond dreadful -I even got ribbed by a Pole about my wearing a West ham football shirt...he said he was an Arsenal fan! Your lad might also be well impressed with the cost of things over there, it is substantially less expensive than here.
Which part is he visiting?
Virtually every football fan in Bangkok cheers for Manchester. I think it's the smart red tee shirts.
Thanks Guys this is all useful...can't believe that 10mil can be used for skirmish Mr Wulf!!! Having said that I am in the same position as yourself-I just can't visualise a 10mil figure....I have some 1/72 here but half that size is starting to look small.
My son will be visiting auschwitz but we have not heard yet where they will be staying, somewhere close I imagine. As for the food this is a matter very close to his giant heart! I will inform him about this!
I may try some 6mm buildings Kitty....not a bad idea at all as I will be using them as markers really....unless the 10 mm bug takes hold.
As for football I have been a lifelong fan of Liverpool and my wife (born in Thailand) has 3 brothers and 5 sisters, all Liverpool supporters bar one strange Man U follower.please don't mention west ham to us, they are fast becoming a thorn in any Liverpool fans side!
Quote from: CarlLeyland on 01 April 2016, 02:40:45 PM
Thanks Guys this is all useful...can't believe that 10mil can be used for skirmish Mr Wulf!!! Having said that I am in the same position as yourself-I just can't visualise a 10mil figure....I have some 1/72 here but half that size is starting to look small.
My son will be visiting auschwitz but we have not heard yet where they will be staying, somewhere close I imagine. As for the food this is a matter very close to his giant heart! I will inform him about this!
I may try some 6mm buildings Kitty....not a bad idea at all as I will be using them as markers really....unless the 10 mm bug takes hold.
As for football I have been a lifelong fan of Liverpool and my wife (born in Thailand) has 3 brothers and 5 sisters, all Liverpool supporters bar one strange Man U follower.please don't mention west ham to us, they are fast becoming a thorn in any Liverpool fans side!
Sorry I took so long answering, I was looking for a smiley with a smug face. :D :D I have always liked Liverpool as a team although there was a serious glitch after the F A Cup result in 2006. Unfortunately, this current crop have a lot to learn if they want to emulate the Liverpool of old. I know what you mean about the odd ones. All my family, including cousins are all West Ham...apart from a son who is a Bluenose and a cousin who follows Spurs. Never mind, eh? We all have our crosses to bear.
On a more serious note, Auschwitz is reasonably close to Krakow and they run tours to the place so he could be staying there. My daughter -who had been working in Krakow previously- went there and said she came out with mixed emotions, and not many of them were good. We had the opportunity to go but without trying to feel superior in any way, I declined. I have seen enough footage and read enough accounts to know what went on and am intelligent enough to realise it must never happen again without the need to see it up close and personal.
By the way Carl, you may have read my articles in MWBG about making 6mm buildings and terrain, all are equally applicable to 10mm.
I believe there was an old woman who had a very good footprint for a house.
Subedai I have not seen the articles, sorry. I had no idea you had written for a magazine. This forum is a very surprising place and very helpful. I had never thought of 10 or even 15mm as an option for many years. I think old (er) age was creeping up on me and I began painting 28mm "because it was easier". Now after the acquisition of some reading glasses the smaller scales are indeed a viable proposition once again. I will certainly hunt down your article, what issue was it in?
Poland seems such a strange place, in Europe but not like the west at all. Its on my bucket list of places to visit for sure.
It might not be like the west because it's in the east. It also dropped out of the nation state game for a couple of hundred years.
I have been painting 10mm for a few years ago after decades of painting mostly 6mm so I went the other way in figure size. My 5' by 4' table is great for 6mm, good for 10's but gets a bit cramped the larger the figures get so that is my yardstick.
MWBG No's 388 and 389, Terrain for Tiny Chaps is the article you are after.
Trying to drum up more support for the Mongols -you'll realise after a while that their exploits are a particular favourite of mine- I also wrote the Mongol articles that appeared in the same magazine a while back.
It was my trip to Krakow that rekindled my interest in the Renaissance Polish husaria but annoyingly, the Armoury at Wawel castle -which has loads of period stuff- had closed the previous day for a 2 week refurbishment. Gutted!
Yes, but like so many gamers, she had so many miniatures she didn't know what to do...
;D ;D ;D Thank god that struck a chord. I was beginning to wonder.
Hello CL
Quote from: CarlLeyland on 01 April 2016, 07:57:47 AM
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone scratch builds their 10MM buildings? In an attempt to keep costs down I would like to try to make a few peasant huts for Eastern Europe. The door size I got from this forum...roughly 15X6MM but what would you recommend for wall lengths and floor heights?
Thanks in advance.
If you're looking to keep costs down and have a printer, you can look at using card/paper buildings. There is a Russian Shed
(http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/87078bond/7_thmb.jpg)
at http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/87078bond/house.pdf (http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/87078bond/house.pdf) which is 2.6M and 1/35 but if you shrink it to .24 of the original it would be about the right size. You can add doors and windows to make a shack. Have a look at http://hamapaper2.zouri.jp/thumblink2/thumb55.html (http://hamapaper2.zouri.jp/thumblink2/thumb55.html) the struck through captions mean a model is no longer available.
Be careful looking around for paper models, there are some pirate sites that can do damage to your computer if you're not careful.
Also there are some pdfs you can buy and scale down as well:-
(http://wars175x.narod.ru/wargameprint/img_ext/rch/rch002_ill.jpg)
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/141308/Southern-Russian-Country-House-rch002 (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/141308/Southern-Russian-Country-House-rch002)
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Thanks once again for the information, I will definatley be searching for the articles! The Mongols are a strange bunch-I think I have a fear thing going on with them....never even played against them in DBA as they give me the creeps-the original dark army!
The links are perfect thanks Grumpy, I have saved the hoouse which I will print out and the Japanese (?) site is a fantastic resource if one needs to build anything-literally everything is on there.
For once I am being overwhelmed with information which is a great motivator!
Can I ask how long an order usually takes to arrive? I am due to be away for a few days every now and then (also a visit to Thailand) and so a rough guide will tell me when not to order!
Thanks again!
Quote from: Leman on 01 April 2016, 06:21:32 PM
I believe there was an old woman who had a very good footprint for a house.
There was an old woman who lived in a shoe.
She said "On my income, it's all I can do.
It may be sub-standard, but just down the block
I know an old woman who lives in a sock."
(not my own, alas)
When I were a young 'un all we had to live in was an old newspaper used to wrap chips in. You were lucky to have a sock. (If I knew how to do it I would now provide a You Tube link to the relevant MP sketch).
Looxury!