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Title: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: cardophillipo on 28 March 2016, 12:28:42 PM
Can anyone suggest the best 10mm figures to use for Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions for 3rd Brigade 1812.

Cheers

Richard P  :)
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: Chad on 28 March 2016, 03:24:30 PM
If I recall these are in shako of an Austrian style, in which case Austrian figures.

Chad
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: cardophillipo on 28 March 2016, 03:50:20 PM
Great thanks I believe there are some Jagers in the Moscow Campaign Austrians.

Cheers

Richard P
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: Zippee on 28 March 2016, 04:45:33 PM
Not convinced as the uniform is entirely at odds with Austrian uniform - lapels, turnbacks and cut of jacket, gaiters, etc.

If you were to use Austrians then probably the EKL figures NPA40 would be best

You still need to address the shako decoration though - plumes were ditched with the old wrapped shako in 1810/11

You could use French - except you need short-tailed jackets.

I don't know the "Moscow French" line so can't say if they are in short tails are not (they shouldn't be but I wouldn't be surprised if they are  :))

But then the shako is wrong. And depending on cut the jacket is likely wrong (wrong lapels if its Bardin, wrong tails if its not)

How about greatcoat clad and wrapped? Could be anything then :)

See if Leon had got his priorities right and produced the 1809 German Allies we need instead of mucking about with British and 1815 stuff, this wouldn't be a problem  :D

Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: Chad on 28 March 2016, 05:52:50 PM
Go to miniatures.de. There is a good photo of the uniform.
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: cardophillipo on 28 March 2016, 07:55:16 PM
"See if Leon had got his priorities right and produced the 1809 German Allies we need instead of mucking about with British and 1815 stuff, this wouldn't be a problem"

Nice one  ;D

I like the greatcoat idea. Hopefully Leon will come on and say they will be released tomorrow  ;)

Cheers

Richard P  :)
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: cardophillipo on 29 March 2016, 10:36:02 AM
Thank for the info Chad. Good picture of the uniform plus info on the Light Infantry uniforms  :)
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: NTM on 29 March 2016, 09:39:47 PM
Austrian German Fusilier in Shako is definitely your best bet at the moment imho
Snip the plume off paint uniform green and you're there.

(http://www.rafaelpardoalmudi.com/images/figures/odd_grossbe/wurtemberg02.jpg)

1812 French range have the old habit veste uniform so not suitable.
Note the the 1812 Wurttemburg figures are simply the French with headswaps so uniform is all wrong.
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: cardophillipo on 29 March 2016, 10:17:07 PM
Thanks NTM that's great, do you have a code for them I can't seem to find them in the catalogue.

Cheers

Richard P  :)
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: Zippee on 30 March 2016, 07:50:31 AM
There are no Austrian German Fusiliers in shako - only Hungarians.

Best bet is NPA40 the Erzherzog Karl Legion - the pose is advancing/firing so camouflages the inaccurate jacket cut and the have both shako with long plume and gaiters.

Doesn't help with the lack of shako furniture or the wrong tails (Austrian coat tails are unique) but NPA40 is your best fit "off the peg".

Though ironically they would be a slightly better fit for the pre 1811 uniform with straight shako , wrap and plume.
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: Chad on 30 March 2016, 08:04:07 AM
The Grenz should be shako I think, although I have not seen them. Ask Leon for samples of different figures and decide that way.

Chad
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: old smokie on 30 March 2016, 08:37:54 AM
I am starting a Wurttemberg force also so this should be of some help, click the image to enlarge. NPA40 is that a Pendraken code ? couldn't find anything in the catalogue

http://www.rafaelpardoalmudi.com/wurtem_leipzig.html
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: Zippee on 30 March 2016, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: Chad on 30 March 2016, 08:04:07 AM
The Grenz should be shako I think, although I have not seen them. Ask Leon for samples of different figures and decide that way.

Chad


Yes the Grenz are in shako - they are also wearing Hungarian (actually Croatian but the differences don't show) trousers not gaiters. They also have harder to prune shako decoration with oak leaves and such.
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: cardophillipo on 30 March 2016, 10:15:14 AM
Thanks Chaps, Zippee do you mean NPA30 can't seem to find an NPA40?

Cheers

Richard P  :)
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: Leon026 on 31 March 2016, 10:12:10 AM
I think that the Grenzers, firing/advancing (NPA17) is your best bet to proxy the figures. They're varied enough, and you should be able to with a little green stuff diversify them by making a couple kneeling/reloading or kneeling/firing - and with a little painting it'll do right the trick.
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: Zippee on 31 March 2016, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: cardophillipo on 30 March 2016, 10:15:14 AM
Thanks Chaps, Zippee do you mean NPA30 can't seem to find an NPA40?

Cheers

Richard P  :)

Doh!, yes I do - sorry a typo that I then copied  >:(

They are pretty much the same figures/poses as NPA17 Grenz but with gaiters already sculpted on. . .
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: cardophillipo on 31 March 2016, 08:34:18 PM
Brilliant thanks  :)
Title: Re: Wurttemberg Jager/Light Infantry Battalions
Post by: NTM on 12 April 2016, 06:09:48 AM
Apologies late coming back on this one. Shako on Npa30 the wrong shape imho. 1812 Austrians includes Germans in shako Nma1-4