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Title: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: jambo1 on 07 March 2016, 06:11:37 AM
I have had a really bad reaction to superglue while doing a bit of work on some 28mm Trent miniatures Irish rebellion figures, cough, nose blocked etc this is not the first time but the worst one by far. So basically I am done using superglue but need an idea of what to use for gluing metal to metal and metal to mdf bases. :-\
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: Techno on 07 March 2016, 06:19:04 AM
That's a swine !  :(

What to use instead though ?
If you're doing just a few at a time, would the fast setting Araldite be of any use ?

Rather time consuming, as you have to mix it.....And the smell is a little bit overpowering.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: Steve J on 07 March 2016, 06:48:05 AM
Using any glues in a confined space is not good, so when doing it at home, I have the kitchen extraction fan on which helps. You may have reached the point (I forget the exact phrase) where you have an allergic reaction to the glue, no matter how small the amount. So I would suggest Araldite for gluing metal to mdf and it is ok metal-to-metal, but not as durable as superglue IMHO.
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: Leman on 07 March 2016, 07:52:52 AM
For basing I have found UHU and PVA work well.
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: petercooman on 07 March 2016, 08:13:06 AM
Maybe 2 component glues?
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: fsn on 07 March 2016, 08:17:36 AM
Question for the knowledgeable. Would it be all super-glues? Are all super-glues the same? Would it be worth trying a couple of different brands to see if there's a different reaction?

Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: Techno on 07 March 2016, 08:49:23 AM
Damn good question, Nobby.

I assume that they all have at least the one similar chemical component. (Cyanoacrylate).....And if it's that, that's causing Jambo grief, then I'm guessing that he'll have problems with all 'superglues'.....But it may be something else in the makeup of the particular glue.
Do you always use the same 'brand' Jambo ?

But as Steve notes, using glue in a confined space may be the real problem.....Could some sort of face mask cut out the worst of the effect ?

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: petercooman on 07 March 2016, 09:37:43 AM
Now i just remembered seeing an add for glue That sets using a light that it's supplied with.

Maybe that would solve your problem as it might not make the same 'vapours':

http://notaglue.com/


ps: Don't know if it will work when fixing minis to a base, as there would be no way to 'light' the glue underneath the mini base.
pss: How do you base your minis? Maybe you can push them in if you use something like caulk or base texture.
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: toxicpixie on 07 March 2016, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: Leman on 07 March 2016, 07:52:52 AM
For basing I have found UHU and PVA work well.

Good quality (builders strength) PVA for me to glue figures to bases - I normally use Evo-Stik EvoBond from the hardware shop over the road (very hand), comes in a tub of many litres for just over a fiver. Also, I sometimes use a decent strength quick setting filler, which gives some texture and disguises the "base bump" as well.
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: Ithoriel on 07 March 2016, 02:44:58 PM
Currently using Wickes extra-strong clear adhesive for fixing things to bases - usually use the UHU equivalent but was in Wickes for a gander when they opened a new store nearby.

You can use it for metal-to-metal bonds but it's not as strong a bond as superglue, in my experience.

PVA I only use for wood-to-wood joints - I swear my Sumerian city must have almost as much PVA glue as mdf in it's construction!

For sticking figures to painting sticks I use Copydex.
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: d_Guy on 07 March 2016, 03:14:15 PM
Golly Jambo that is a real pain!
I have used the gel form of Cyanoacrylate glue from time to time which does not seem to vapor as much (or much more slowly anyway)
Still - that would make you the test subject that I doubt you want to be. Peter may have it with a two component epoxy resin.
Good luck with your search.
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: jambo1 on 07 March 2016, 05:47:38 PM
Thanks for the replies gents, I think any super glue will now be  bad for me, I usually use Gorilla super glue as it is a good one but alas..... I am going to go with the builders  strength PVA for the basing and probably try araldite two part for metal to metal, so here hoping I find the right mix!!
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: Leman on 07 March 2016, 06:42:16 PM
Copydex is brilliant stuff for temporarily fixing figures for painting and I second Ithoriel's recommendation. I have used it for that purpose for at least thirty years now.
Title: Re: Alternatives to super glue
Post by: LinLin on 18 May 2016, 06:25:20 AM
they have some glue which you shine a blue light on it and it activates it, some were mentioning it as a cleaner form of super glue. i believe it's a "as seen on tv" product