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Title: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Roy on 29 January 2016, 03:32:51 PM
About time I showed something 10mm and Pendraken on this forum. So, using some Mongols as well, here's some Warband stuff.

No idea what they'll represent as I still haven't read my copy of the rules yet. As for the different die frame sizes ... They match the differing sizes of the figures [that's my excuse  :D ]

We'll see how long it takes me to paint them now  :'(

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uFQQOdBt1UY/VquBAMUf_XI/AAAAAAAAE6g/KJ30kU8ed3I/w738-h553-no/DSC01666.JPG)

[The Mongols are actually based for Lion Rampant - the die represent the 6 figures in the unit. For infantry, I'd use two dice - one on each back corner - to represent the 12 figures in the unit.]
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Techno on 29 January 2016, 04:06:21 PM
 :!!

Are they done yet ?

Fair enough, Roy.....The Mongols are 'historical scale'.....The barbarians are 'fantasy size'.

Look forward to seeing how these progress ! :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 January 2016, 05:45:42 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Roy on 30 January 2016, 06:54:33 PM
Quote from: Techno on 29 January 2016, 04:06:21 PM
Fair enough, Roy.....The Mongols are 'historical scale'.....The barbarians are 'fantasy size'.
Cheers - Phil

Apologies, it wasn't a criticism about the two differing heights. Obviously, as you've stated, historical and fantasy are made to differing practices. I'm happy to use both together - or against.  :)

Anyway, Those Barbarians are big tough brutes, needing bison to carry them into battle. The Mongol-types, being smaller in stature, can afford the luxury of using steppe ponies which are easier to breed and train. Hence why the Barbarians are mostly foot armies and the Steppes Tribes are mostly mounted.

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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-s-58ql62hEI/VqzswMLrscI/AAAAAAAAE7I/hiF3jRQoyaA/s600/Warband1.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-54lc8XZcD54/VqzswW3oMkI/AAAAAAAAE7Q/4wB6HRRouiA/s600/Warband2.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FPQF_szGc3k/VqzswTeCgVI/AAAAAAAAE7M/d9clbewQd5E/s600/Warband3.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nC_U7kQYfQQ/Vqzsw8RlSbI/AAAAAAAAE7U/cp96fpXlhxo/s600/Warband4.jpg)
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Techno on 30 January 2016, 07:05:23 PM
I DO like those, Roy !  :-bd

No need to apologise, Matey.  :)....I didn't take that as criticism at all.
It's just worth pointing out to any new chums on the forum that the historical and fantasy scales are slightly different, in case there's any confusion.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 January 2016, 07:25:48 PM
Very nice work Roy! :)
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: fred. on 30 January 2016, 08:26:13 PM
Those Barbarians have turned out rather nice!!
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Roy on 30 January 2016, 08:26:47 PM
Thank you all. Off to start undercoating the Steppes Tribes now [aka. the not-Mongols]
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Bodvoc on 30 January 2016, 09:02:53 PM
They look really good Roy.
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Womble67 on 30 January 2016, 11:15:27 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Mostyn on 31 January 2016, 08:59:55 AM
Wow, those look great and were done really quickly. I guess doing the basing first is a big timesaver. I'm certainly finding it a faff to do after painting.
I think the differing dice frames add gravitas to the important units ;)
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Roy on 31 January 2016, 09:21:51 AM
Thank you all  :)

@Mostyn: They took something like 5 hours to paint [including a break to let the shading wash dry].

This information may help people:

I can't paint bases after the figures are done, as I mess up the finished figures - so I do the bases first.
With the bases being large it allowed me to space out the figures, which helps to paint them in-situ. That's a time saver.
I painted everything a dark brown as the undercoat, the basing just being contrasting layers brushed over it roughly, the figures skin colour being quite a close match.
Then I just blocked in the colours. Covered all the figures in [Games Workshop] Agrax Earthshade shading wash. Finished off just picking out some details like the bright red part of the shields, silver on the weapons, gold on the weapons, and then went over the grey loincloths and brown capes again.
Another big time saver is that I painted using paints taken straight from the pots - and I transfer Vallejo paints into old jam jars, so I don't have to mess about with dropper bottles.
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Subedai on 31 January 2016, 09:49:17 AM
Those Barbies have turned out well, nice bright colours on nice bright bases. Like them.

Looking forward to seeing those non-Mongols painted.
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Mostyn on 31 January 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Thanks for the breakdown. It's definitely a timesaver as I could probably paint the figures in 5 hours (aided by the fact they'd be seperate) but the basing is very time consuming. And demoralising when the brush goes astray and flocks a carefully painted miniature!
Title: Re: Samurai Apes [Warband]
Post by: Roy on 22 March 2016, 10:16:03 AM
I bought these at Hammerhead and have based them 60x30 to match Bodvoc's existing armies.

There was, originally, 7mm dice frames on these bases, but a mix-up by me when ordering more frames saw me purchase 5mm instead. Luckily, the 5mm frames work better on the smaller bases, so I've gone with them - I liked the look of the 5mm sitting inside the ruins of the older 7mm frames, hence the skirted frames.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nw7YcrGJYSI/VvBdpJvnvAI/AAAAAAAAFPo/gtzZdliCrmIplkfgG8WaNOCwojO_OO2cA/s1600/All_Sorts15.jpg)

Building ruins for Frostgrave saw my spirits tumble, so I took a break and painted up a couple of bases of troops for my Samurai Apes "Warband" army.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cLcwo60_7ZY/VvBdpQagSCI/AAAAAAAAFPw/ZTZXv1VLUeMp8cbDZZGaJ37vakuHUqXtA/s1600/All_Sorts16.jpg)

'Defensive' Samurai Apes with bows, behind 'bamboo palisade'. I didn't fancy painting the bamboo green, like I've done in the past.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xnMoEUCPLZc/VvBdpYkf66I/AAAAAAAAFPs/ocVyb3qE2eEGABNjdcXzP7O4_Xdf26BDw/s1600/All_Sorts17.jpg)

Water Elementals. Painted to look like they're shooting up from a body of flowing water. No, I didn't use any pure white highlights - when seen in the flesh they look good enough as is.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J7pkMtBtwnY/VvBdqNHXwaI/AAAAAAAAFP0/ovkj1pdJli8rY8M2YpWVr2zjvt-1UbJIA/s1600/All_Sorts18.jpg)

Due to the bamboo palisades taking up space on the base, I only used 5 bow-apes on the example shown. The other bases I have either feature 10 bows, or 9 naginata/katana, in two ranks.
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Techno on 22 March 2016, 10:53:02 AM
T'riffic !  8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 March 2016, 12:39:02 PM
Those are great!
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Bodvoc on 22 March 2016, 12:47:53 PM
Those are very nice, I look forward to duffing them up with my Elves.
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Roy on 22 March 2016, 01:37:58 PM
Thanks all  :)

Quote from: Bodvoc on 22 March 2016, 12:47:53 PM
Those are very nice, I look forward to duffing them up with my Elves.

Yep, the army is all glued up. I'll paint them bit at a time around Frostgrave stuff and those 28mm Ancient Germans.
Only think the Apes might need is another base of warriors (I've only 3) and some Centaur allies to get cheap cavalry troops.
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Mostyn on 22 March 2016, 04:31:26 PM
Nice.  What's not to like about samurai apes and they really don;t look like mongols at all ;)  I love the effect of the water elements rising from the stream and the paintjob whihc accentuates it.  In my nascent planning for a samurai ape army I'd envisaged something similar with a kraken mage gesturing on a jetty in the background. Planning for that hasn't got any further than an idea in my head of course!
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Roy on 22 March 2016, 04:52:25 PM
My Kraken are joined on their base with two sacrificial human females (or they could be Elves!  :d ). I like the idea of them directed the elementals, though. Don't worry, I won't be borrowing it  :)
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: fred. on 22 March 2016, 05:27:03 PM
I do like those water Elementals, very nice basing.
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Subedai on 22 March 2016, 06:13:54 PM
Agree with others, the painting of those Elementals is spot on. 
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Roy on 23 March 2016, 09:54:17 AM
Thank you.

I'm going to use a spare water elemental miniature as an ersatz 28mm ethereal undead for Frostgrave (Wraith rules in the main rules book). Also, since I've a few spare tiger (animal) models I'll use them as 'giant rats' for Frostgrave.
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Techno on 23 March 2016, 11:34:27 AM
Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 23 March 2016, 09:54:17 AM
I'm going to use a spare water elemental miniature as an ersatz 28mm ethereal undead for Frostgrave

I was going to write a tongue in cheek 'rant' along the lines of ........."I put my heart and soul into making 'soldiers' for you to use in games...and you bastardize them."
Whereas, in truth I genuinely enjoy seeing what folk.....erm ? :-\..... use them for....Change them into.

Really looking forward to seeing your 're-interpretation', Roy.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: They are Warband stuff - Honestly. Not Mongols at all :) [Warband]
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 March 2016, 07:54:11 AM
Quote from: Techno on 23 March 2016, 11:34:27 AM
I was going to write a tongue in cheek 'rant' along the lines of ........."I put my heart and soul into making 'soldiers' for you to use in games...and you bastardize them."
Whereas, in truth I genuinely enjoy seeing what folk.....erm ? :-\..... use them for....Change them into.

Really looking forward to seeing your 're-interpretation', Roy.  :)

Cheers - Phil


Well they gota be better than the originals !!!!  ;)

PHIL - WORK FASTER.

IanS