Hi, do any of you play 10mm Napoleonics
with black powder rules ? If so how does it work ?
What tweeks have you made ? and what size units do you use ?
Thanks Chalkie.
Hi,
I haven't played Naps with the Black Powder rules but they work very well for Seven Years War in 10mm. The only changes we make are to substitute centimetres for inches and half the basesize.
I see Dan , so what unit sizes would you recommend for British & French ?
As Dan J above. My standard unit is 4 25mm square bases for inf and cavalry. Depth varie for guns: BP game in progress
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20SYW/IMG_1439_zpswshpnho9.jpg)
Good stuff lads, much appreciated .
So is this right ? 6 reg inf to a base , 3 light inf to a base , 3 cav to a base and 1 gun to a base ?
For me a regular unit is 4 bases, 40mm x 30mm with either 4 cavalry or 8 infantry. A gun on a 40mm square.
The only change I make is to play in cm instead of inches
Number of figures on a base is irrelevant and up to the players. I started with 6 line to a base, but as SYW is close order warfare I now have between 8 and 10. I chose 3 cavalry because it looked good. BP is very clear that it is not a hard and fast competition set but a toolkit to be used among friends.
Our gaming group has used Black Powder rules quite successfully with 6mm
figures. As suggested earlier, just use cms instead of inches.
In this case, each battalion was just a single stand. The rules worked fine.
Phil
I use cm scale, works just fine!
Like Leman, my Pendraken minis are based on 25mm / 1 inch square bases (four bases = standard size unit). My Peter Pig 15mm minis are also on 1 inch bases (obviously less figs. per base). Didn't fancy the 1 cm = '1 inch' approach - although a good solution, reducing the measurements to 40% and screwing my eyes up to read centimetres on the tape measure was just too much for my old eyes. Instead, I use my own 2/3rds and half scale reduced measurement QR sheets (got the idea from the BP Forum) which means I can still use inches.
Great lads, your input has answered all my questions.
Can't wait to get started.
Thanks again.
Out of interest is there reason for the 25mm base. Is it preference or rules specific
Preference. When you read the BP rules the penny will soon drop that you don't have to follow the authors' preferred base sizes (which are for 28mm). Quote:-
As you have undoubtedly gathered by now, we are quite cavalier about basing conventions and unit sizes - and quite happy to field units of varying size on the same tabletop. We do sometimes field units of different frontages together or more likely opposing each other.
After many experiments, I went for 1 inch square bases because I can fit 8 Pendraken SYW 10mm foot (4 x 2) (an Old Glory 10mm strip of 5 also fits) giving me the close order look I want (a 1 inch/25mm square base accommodates 3 Pendraken cavalry btw).
This has two benefits (in my mind, at any rate). If i'm using other rules like Maurice which use base-widths as the standard unit of measurement, then I don't need to custom make a special ruler and can use an ordinary tape measure instead.
I also have issues with war-games units in march/road column being shorter than when in line. Square bases help prevent this anomaly plus it also means the unit perfectly fits on my movement trays whether in line or road column.
Off the top of my head I think I used 25mm square bases for my SYW with 6 Pendraken infantry per base, except for the command which due to reasons I can't remember (probably fitting the standard bearers and flags) I only put four figures on, two standards and two 'officers'. This gives a unit size of 34 figures for line infantry which looks about right, the cavalry are on 30x30mm.
To help speed up movement I used two 50x25mm bases and two 25x25mm bases, and I use steel bases as I like thin bases.
Here are a couple of battalions, some cavalry and some artillery. All are the excellent Pendraken figures, except for the battalion guns for which I used 6mm Bacus as the 10mm ones may be the right size but look a bit big.
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/SYW_Fr2.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/SYW_Fr2.jpg.html)