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Title: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: NeilCFord on 07 January 2016, 12:50:25 PM
So as well as contemplating SAGA Crescent and Cross, I'm looking at regular SAGA in 10mm. Obviously I'd like, where possible, source my figures from our good hosts. So far this is what I've come up with to replicate the Gripping Beast 4 point starter warbands:

QuoteAnglo-Danes
Warlord - AS1 Foot command
4 Huscarls (Axes) (Hearthguard) - AS2 Huscarls
4 Huscarls (Spears) (Hearthguard) - AS2 Huscarls
16 Ceorls (Warriors) - AS4 Great Fyrd??

Norman
Mounted Warlord - N10 General with mace
8 Mounted Milites (Hearthguard) N9 Medium cavalry spear kite shield or N7/8 Armoured cavalry spear kite shield??
8 Crossbowmen (Warriors) - N6 Light crossbow
12 Archers (Levy) - N5 Light archer

Viking
Warlord - NO3 Command
4 Hirdmen (Hearthguard) - NO4 Hirdmen
4 Berserkers (Hearthguard) - NO5 - Berserkers
16 Bondi (Warriors) - NO1 Bondi

Welsh - maybe use Picts??
Warlord
4 Teulu (Hearthguard)
16 Priodaur (Warriors)
12 Bonnedig (Levy)

Anyone care to weigh in on whether I'm spot on or wide of the mark? In a couple of places I'm not sure of the choices available.

This of course pre-supposes Leon being happy to fill a fiddly order for odd quantities of figures. I wouldn't blame him if he told me where to go.

As always, thanks in advance for any and all replies.

- Neil.
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: ciaphas on 07 January 2016, 01:04:23 PM
Your list is similar to mine, Normans can be used for Franks and Breton's too.

jon
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: Leman on 07 January 2016, 04:14:15 PM
The Saxon militia ARL16 (Late Romans) are great for ceorls.
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: NeilCFord on 07 January 2016, 04:42:51 PM
Quote from: ciaphas on 07 January 2016, 01:04:23 PM
Your list is similar to mine, Normans can be used for Franks and Breton's too.

jon

Thank you, that's useful information.

- Neil.
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: NeilCFord on 07 January 2016, 04:44:03 PM
Quote from: Leman on 07 January 2016, 04:14:15 PM
The Saxon militia ARL16 (Late Romans) are great for ceorls.

And this is why I ask these questions, because I would never have thought to look there for suitable figures.

Thank you.

- Neil.
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: fred. on 07 January 2016, 04:59:20 PM
How are you thinking of basing?

I was thinking of doing crescent and cross in 10mm, and was thinking 25mm round bases for infantry with a few figures on, and 40mm round bases for cavalry, again with a few figures on.

This seemed a way of getting the mass effect of 10mm, while keeping pretty close to the 28mm base sizes of the rules.
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: NeilCFord on 07 January 2016, 05:19:33 PM
I'm actually thinking of individual basing on 15mm circular for foot, with Warlords on 20mm. Reduce all measurements by 2.5 and you get 20mm, 40mm, 60mm and 120mm respectively. Was going to ask Leon if he could knock out some custom measuring sticks similar to the ones he did for me before.

- Neil.
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: Leman on 07 January 2016, 06:28:07 PM
I would find 10mm individually based figures very fiddly. I decided to do Dux Britanniarum using 10mm figures on 28mm bases, treating them as elements. I use pennies for infantry and tuppences (I am old) for command and cavalry:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20Dux%20Britanniarum/IMG_0858_zps68ffea0e.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20Dux%20Britanniarum/IMG_0857_zps7d01dcfd.jpg)

Top photo also shows a warband, not in shieldwall, in a Warbases skirmish base. 
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: NeilCFord on 07 January 2016, 07:07:53 PM
I can understand people finding individually based 10mm figures fiddly, but to me, skirmish games mean individual figures. I could multi base and use dice to mark casualties, but it just wouldn't feel the same.

At the end of the day, as long as the person playing with the finished figures is happy, that is all that matters.

- Neil.
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: fred. on 07 January 2016, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: NeilCFord on 07 January 2016, 07:07:53 PM
At the end of the day, as long as the person playing with the finished figures is happy, that is all that matters.

Absolutely !

With multi-basing for skirmish games - I (and I think the others) are suggesting that one base of 10mm figures functions in the rules as a single 28mm figure, i.e. it is the bases that you are counting, not the number of figures.

This way your 8 base Saga Warrior unit has around 30 10mm figures, rather than just 8 28mm figures
Title: Re: 10mm figures for SAGA - advice sought
Post by: Leman on 08 January 2016, 09:09:53 AM
Well using individually based 10mm for skirmish games won't cost much. I liked the concepts behind Dux Britanniarum but wanted units that looked like units.