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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: Sunray on 28 December 2015, 07:10:36 PM

Title: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Sunray on 28 December 2015, 07:10:36 PM
I am a frequent visitor to Plastic Soldier Review website.   There is a rich nostalgia in viewing those little Airfix figures that introduced me to wargaming.

Occasionally one sees something that might inspire a 1/150 version.   In this case the Caesar H006 Partisans or Underground Resisters.

A couple of the sculpts caught my eye

1.  The chap in a suit (first row) with MP 40 - change that to a Tommy Gun and you have a gangster figure

2.Last Row - trench coat and pistol -  secret agent or again a gangster ?

3. a few of the other sculpts like the petrol bomber (Hungarian Uprising ?). 

Have we enough interest amongst  forum members to commission a small range of generic partisans with a few who have gangster potential ?

Cheers
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: fred. on 28 December 2015, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Sunray on 28 December 2015, 07:10:36 PM
There is a rich nostalgia in viewing those little Airfix figures that introduced me to wargaming.

Me too - I often find myself looking through many packs that I owned a long time ago!

And looking at all the new packs, and wishing they had been available back then.

But I'm not keen on buying any - the soft plastic is just too hard to work with.
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Steve J on 29 December 2015, 07:14:29 AM
I would have thought that a lot of the SCW stuff could be used as is, with the odd simple conversions here and there.
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 29 December 2015, 12:06:39 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 29 December 2015, 07:14:29 AM
I would have thought that a lot of the SCW stuff could be used as is, with the odd simple conversions here and there.

I have found some figures from various Pendraken ranges, from SCW to sci-fi, to use as WW2 Soviet Partisans but specific figures would be very welcome. 1940's armed civilians could do for gangsters, volksturm, various partisans, VBCW and, no doubt, other things too.
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Sunray on 31 December 2015, 02:27:54 PM
Ok, I will place this as a formal request - a small range of say 6 resistance fighters with a few who have the dress, sculpt and weapons to double as gangsters or secret agent types.   
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 31 December 2015, 08:57:18 PM
Hello Sunray

I know what you mean about visiting the PSR site. I generally have a scan through the old sets like this one:-

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1256/airfixboxstyles0014.jpg)

As far as the partisans/resistance goes, we need to find out the plans for the Gangsters, although the news in August was:-

"8.   1920's/1930's Gangsters - Unfortunately an unlikely one to appear any time soon.  As people have said, it's not the most viable range to look at producing, so we'll have to wait and see."

Maybe if we can put in some ideas for multi-use figures, we can move it up the food chain a bit. Maybe if we also suggest some peripheral figures like generic civilians, unarmed, that might be attractive for railway modellers. I'd be happy to see some civilians with rifles but do we request UK, Soviet or German weapons for others?

This has enthused me now to get out 'Allo 'Allo rules I got from the Yahoo group and see what I need  :D.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 December 2015, 09:33:33 PM
Civilians with German weapons would do for Soviet and French partisans with captured weapons and for Volksturm.

Of course, ideally, I'd like to see figures with Sten/ MP40/ PPSh/ Tommy Gun and with Bren/ MG34/ DP LMG. Possibly same basic figure with different weapons for each nation, if that would make sculpting easier/ less expensive? Prefer LMG walking to prone but maybe that's just me?

In 10mm I'm tempted to say,"a rifle is a rifle is a rifle."
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 January 2016, 09:32:37 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 31 December 2015, 09:33:33 PM
In 10mm I'm tempted to say,"a rifle is a rifle is a rifle."

No - if H&R can make obvious No4's, SLR, AK47 etc in 6mm even Mr Lewis can manage in 10mm  ;)

IanS
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Techno on 01 January 2016, 12:12:13 PM
I've already managed it in 6mm.  ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 January 2016, 02:26:26 PM
2mm?
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 January 2016, 05:24:28 PM
Not a comment on the quality of sculpting, just an attempt to cut down on the figures needed!

Less obvious difference in 10mm between rifles than say MP40 and PPsh or Bren and MG34

(http://www.ltwerner.com/wwii/images/all-rifles.gif)
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 January 2016, 06:23:04 PM
Most people have ducks on the wall Ithorial!
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Techno on 01 January 2016, 06:34:33 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 January 2016, 02:26:26 PM
2mm?

Nope.....Never made anything smaller than 6mm.......Apart from teeny weeny little animals......Like 'Tufty'.  ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 January 2016, 06:39:40 PM
How is the meerkat?
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 01 January 2016, 10:14:22 PM
Hi All

Maybe if the Gangsters were renamed to Armed Civilians it might expedite their emergence. Let's face it, a figure in this scale with a fedora, civilian suit and rifle could cover from the 1880s to the 1960s  :). Then LMGs and HMGs could follow later. A figure with a BAR or Thompson could also fit in a lot of different locations as well as the original gangster idea. Generic figures with molotovs or demolition gear would also work. Then WW2 German and Russian specifics could be added.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Zdzis%C5%82aw_de_Ville.jpg)(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/e/e3/TFBIS_12.jpg/500px-TFBIS_12.jpg)(http://texashideout.tripod.com/clydeandbar.jpg)(http://mrdomingo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/5073w.jpg)(http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/dillinger-with-guns.jpg#dillinger%20thompson%20250x398)(http://mrdomingo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/tumblr_m81hmv18o21qznvi3o1_500.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 January 2016, 12:02:39 AM
You missed the 'Peaky Blinders' off your list!
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Sunray on 03 January 2016, 04:25:29 PM
Fair point by Grumpy. I just want a modest range of WW2/post war onwards civilians with guns.  Don't care what they are called.

The Caesar range has some inspiring figures. And the sculpts  by Techno will allow character type games in 1/150.  Two characters in  trench coats or suits - one with a Thompson, one with a Luger , a freedom fighter with a petrol bomb, a female with an SMG, a demolition man with a plunger type detonator ...
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Womble67 on 04 January 2016, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 02 January 2016, 12:02:39 AM
You missed the 'Peaky Blinders' off your list!

i really enjoyed Peaky Blinders. i'd like to see some partisans

take care

andy
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Sunray on 04 January 2016, 07:28:29 PM
Quote from: Womble67 on 04 January 2016, 04:40:00 PM
i really enjoyed Peaky Blinders. i'd like to see some partisans

take care

andy

Andy - have a wee look at FRE 16 - two Peaky Blinder types - on the shelf already
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 January 2016, 08:56:39 PM
Excellent spot, and the left hand one wouldn't take too much work to file down either! :)
Title: Re: Caesar 1/72 figures - an inspiration for 1/150 ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 04 January 2016, 09:12:41 PM
An, as yet unpainted, conversion of the leftmost figure consisted of slicing the top off the helmet and filing the top with a v-shaped file to create a passable(IMHO) trilby-type hat.

Once I've finished the 6mm Sumerians, Armada period ships and the rest of my Pendraken WW2 Germans I have a WW2 Soviet partisan force to paint up ... along with a raft of other projects :(