We're continuing to revamp some of our older vehicle models and this month we've had a remodelled T-34 arrive at Pendraken HQ. This is obviously one of the biggest sellers in our WWII Soviet range so it'll be good to get it brought up to our current standards.
We've also got three new turrets with this, both early and later 76mm turrets and then the 85mm on the right hand side. The smaller items at the front are early and later style fuel tanks.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/693/23255418390_87f8384d22_z.jpg)
And for those interested, here's a pic of the new model next to the current one. It's always interesting to see how much the modelling quality has come on in the 20+ years since we first started!
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5770/23442777252_d328f03147_z.jpg)
We've already got the Cannone da 90/53 on the back of our Lancia truck but we've now had a ground mounting done for it as well, to go along with some new Italian artillery crewmen we've had sitting here for a while. This is a three-piece kit and looks excellent:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5723/23468710501_59ae55d59f_z.jpg)
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Very spiffy, indeed !
Cheers - Phil
Very Nice. the Italian 90 will go on my wish list
Wow, that T-34 looks nice. Is it the photo or is it bigger? That AT gun looks great as well.
Very nice work boys!
No one spotted that one coming!
I'm sure that the new T34 is sightly bigger?
Lots of detail though!
Nice additions to the range.
Will they completely replace the old ones? Or will those still be available for those of us who already have a bunch and want to add some?
As said the new one looks bigger!
Quote from: Steve J on 06 December 2015, 08:25:27 AM
Is it the photo or is it bigger?
Quote from: fsn on 06 December 2015, 09:53:58 AM
I'm sure that the new T34 is sightly bigger?
Quote from: petercooman on 06 December 2015, 12:44:20 PM
As said the new one looks bigger!
Yep, the new one is bigger than the current, hence the comparison picture. There are a few of the older vehicles in our ranges that weren't properly scaled to the 1:150th that we work to these days, so they don't look right when they're on the table next to the other vehicles. We're going to slowly replace any that don't size up correctly, along with some of the older, less detailed models. The first vehicles to get this treatment are the Tiger, Panther, Shermans and T-34's here.
Quote from: petercooman on 06 December 2015, 12:44:20 PM
Will they completely replace the old ones? Or will those still be available for those of us who already have a bunch and want to add some?
They'll be replaced in the catalogue/website for all new customers, but we'll still be able to supply the older model if people still need any.
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I like the way the quality of the tanks is improving. I have a brigade (39 models) of T34/76 from Wargame South in which I've been planning to replace one of its regiments with a T34/85 regiment. This shpould fit the bill nicely.
Wow and an Italian ground fired 90mm AA gun. Pendraken must be the only company to make this in 10mm.
All super.
:) Rob
Quote from: Leon on 06 December 2015, 10:15:02 PM
They'll be replaced in the catalogue/website for all new customers, but we'll still be able to supply the older model if people still need any.
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Thanks, good to know!
Oh my! Am I glad I waited to start with my new project! :D :-bd
Cheers,
Rob
Another good reason for doing the T34 is so it can be converted to the Egyptian version with the 100mm and 122mm guns - strange looking vehicles!!!!
Dave
Will the KV line be remodelled? I always thought they looked a bit small (certainly compared to... other ones... from elsewhere... )
Still missing the proper turret for Kursk ;) ;)
Quote from: Dave on 07 December 2015, 09:13:38 AM
Another good reason for doing the T34 is so it can be converted to the Egyptian version with the 100mm and 122mm guns - strange looking vehicles!!!!
A T-34/122? That must be a bit nose-heavy!
T34/122
(http://i-am-modelist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/T-34122_4.jpg)
Just don't try to fire when pointing uphill! :)
It's like a poor man's KV-2 ;D ;D
That is one ugly looking tank!
Aw! It's parents loved it.
Is that really a 'proper tank' ?
Looks like the turret belongs to a much larger scale model.
Cheers - Phil
1960s Egyptian conversion from what I know!
The turret looks like it was put together from spare parts.
Badly.
Well...technically it's not a tank but a Tank Destroyer. It looks like a bit like the Russian T34/122 but with added protection for the crew.
The top of the sides and rear of the turret could be lowered. Don't know whether that was to improve visibilty or atmospheric conditions for the crew. Knowing it's origin it could be that it was done to make it easier for the crew to surrender? :D (Sorry, couldn't resist it...)
Cheers,
Rob
I thought is was an SP gun for indirect fire. When it was designed the Russians didn't have any of those
Iirc without checking, the Russian t-34/122 was an SPG prototype/test bed whilst the Egyptian one was intended for AT work and didn't have the same elevation & indirect fire ability...
Supposed to turn unusable for modern combat t34 chassis into a really handy mobile AT platform to counter superior Israeli armour...
Quote from: toxicpixie on 19 December 2015, 10:47:10 AM
Iirc without checking, the Russian t-34/122 was an SPG prototype/test bed whilst the Egyptian one was intended for AT work and didn't have the same elevation & indirect fire ability...
Correct indeed Toxicpixie!
Cheers,
Rob
I am under the impression that after protoyping a 122mm armed StuG (the SG-122) the Russians opted for an amalgamation of the 76.2mm armed U-34 and and the SG-122 to create the SU-122. This was an assault gun armed with a short-barrelled howitzer.
The ISU-122 replaced the SU-122 after a thousand or so of the latter had been built.
The howitzer wasn't very accurate (it was designed as a bunker buster) but if it landed in the right place it would rip the turret off a Tiger.
The Egyptian version is an ad hoc mobile AT gun. A big ugly target but rather bigger teeth than the SU-122!
A 122mm armed StuG would be something to model! OK so there were only 10 and they probably never saw action but still ....
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhGCE0ePlBjmFwDp2Fc7xONGUhNlxcpYjCevLDxjVSqEil02TtAQ)
That's an interesting model too indeed!
Any more pictures anywhere?
Cheers,
Rob
I discovered the SG-122 when trawling t'internet for interesting things for my Pendraken 10mm Kursk era stuff.
Just type SG-122 into the Image bit of google and you turn up a variety of things such as:
An original photo
(http://www.romseymodellers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sg1.jpg)
Drawings
(http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/tanks/russiantanks/sg_122-36920.jpg)
Modern images
(http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/tanks/tanks-s/sg_122a-33191.jpg)
Interesting model and certainly 'buildable'... the question is of course of why you would want one ;)
Typical also that had this been a German built vehicle every big model firm would have it in it's inventory in every imaginable scale... somehow they're all very much attracted to German hardware... :-\
Cheers,
Rob
For gods sake don't tell Phil Yates - otherwise it will turn up in flames of war......
IanS
To be fair to the Germans a run of ten vehicles is quite big for their production capacity :D
I was thinking just the same thing...
And if it was German they would almost have to had to put it to use! ;D
Cheers,
Rob ;)
As a "what if" vehicle for table-top use it's more credible than things like the Maus. Further reading, sparked by this thread, suggests that up to 21 were built on PzIII and StuG chassis and that they were issued to combat units but lack of spares and problems of the German radios they carried operating on different frequencies from the Russian ones lead to them being transferred to training units.
21 ... that's more than ten times as many as Maus prototypes, roughly four times as many as completed Kugelblitz, half the production run of the Ostwind, 25% of the number of Jagdtigers, roughly the same as the number of SiG33Bs.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 20 December 2015, 09:46:07 AM
For gods sake don't tell Phil Yates - otherwise it will turn up in flames of war......
Looks like that would be perfectly historical! :)
I think I need to start an fsn style campaign for a Pendraken SG-122 :D :D :D
Quote from: Ithoriel on 20 December 2015, 03:23:04 PM
I think I need to start an fsn style campaign for a Pendraken SG-122 :D :D :D
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo
I can't see sharp enough in the picture... is the new t-34 turret in the middle "Mickey" type or another?
Quote from: Zbigniew on 21 June 2016, 08:23:57 PM
I can't see sharp enough in the picture... is the new t-34 turret in the middle "Mickey" type or another?
I think it is the T-34/76 obr 41 version with the single trapezoid hatch on top. I do hope they release a proper 42/43 version with the twin round hatches (the Mickey turret!) for Kursk.
~iPaint
Yeah, the picture appears to show an obr 40 and an obr 41 turret T34/76 and an obr 43 T34/85
Would be nice to get an obr 42 Mickey Mouse turret T34/76 for Kursk
It would need an obr 42 T34/76 with the commander's cupola to complete the set.
Thanks for information.
AFAIK "Mickey" type was introduced in late 1942 despite 43 symbol. In a book about winter 1942/43 Kharkov battle there are pictures of many "mickeys" in the snow.
Pendraken could probably make "Mickey" turret as well.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 29 June 2016, 11:38:23 AM
Yeah, the picture appears to show an obr 40 and an obr 41 turret T34/76 and an obr 43 T34/85
Would be nice to get an obr 42 Mickey Mouse turret T34/76 for Kursk
It would need an obr 42 T34/76 with the commander's cupola to complete the set.
Agreed, I need about 50 of em, so am patiently waiting for that turret variant.
~iPaint
Hi,
please let me ask a question about t-34 "Mickey" turet again.
Is it (will it) be available with the remodelled T-34 hull?
Quote from: Zbigniew on 04 February 2017, 06:38:33 PM
Is it (will it) be available with the remodelled T-34 hull?
Possibly, I will have to ask the modeller about this. It isn't something he has already got on the list, so we would need to fit it into the schedule.
Quote from: Leon on 04 February 2017, 09:50:21 PM
Possibly, I will have to ask the modeller about this. It isn't something he has already got on the list, so we would need to fit it into the schedule.
Good news, thank you! I hope for combined purchase of them with the new BCK rules in the Spring
Quote from: Zbigniew on 05 February 2017, 11:04:11 AM
Good news, thank you! I hope for combined purchase of them with the new BCK rules in the Spring
You have to love an optimist ;) ;D ;D
Quote from: Zbigniew on 05 February 2017, 11:04:11 AM
Good news, thank you! I hope for combined purchase of them with the new BCK rules in the Spring
It will probably be summer before we have the turrets ready, as the modeller already has other items to do first.