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Title: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Westmarcher on 03 December 2015, 05:40:24 PM
This will probably be 'old hat' to the FPW aficionados of the forum but if, like me, you are new to the Franco-Prussian War you might also find this French website as amazing as I do.

http://www.laguerrede1870enimages.fr/index.html (http://www.laguerrede1870enimages.fr/index.html)

[btw, if, like me, your French is poor (or non-existent), I suggest you dig out your French dictionary, try Google translate or just click at random! Enjoy!]
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 December 2015, 05:46:44 PM
Good site
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: cameronian on 03 December 2015, 06:14:43 PM
That's a very nice site WM, thank you. So, what about this one then.
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Steve J on 03 December 2015, 08:04:45 PM
Blimey, that cuirass has taken saome hits! I wonder what caused that?
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Subedai on 03 December 2015, 08:23:19 PM
Great site. (I really must get some more Germans so I can have a game).

I have found that over the years my knowledge of the French language has improved almost as much as my knowledge of Patagonian Basket Weaving Techniques. Luckily, I took French up until the Third Year at school (not a clue what the modern version of that is) so I can just about get by.
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 December 2015, 08:38:09 PM
Year 9 in modern speak Subedai!
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Subedai on 03 December 2015, 10:18:02 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 03 December 2015, 08:38:09 PM
Year 9 in modern speak Subedai!

Thanks for the clarification. My smalls learnt under this new fangled system from over the water but I could never get the hang of it...and I'm too old to change.
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 December 2015, 10:23:55 PM
Primary Reception, Year 1-6
Secondry Year 7-13

But just to be confusing, here in Bedfordshire, we have Lower Nursery and R-4 then Middle 5-8, then upper 9-13.

Basic rule, year =age-4 years, so year 1 are 5, year 4 are 8, year 13 are 17...
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Ithoriel on 03 December 2015, 10:44:46 PM
Up here in Scotland we have P1 - P7 then S1 to S6.

No idea what classes were called in 1870 though :)
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: mollinary on 03 December 2015, 10:52:58 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 03 December 2015, 10:44:46 PM

No idea what classes were called in 1870 though :)

Privileged?  :-\

Mollinary
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Leman on 04 December 2015, 07:35:47 AM
Very interesting site. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Westmarcher on 04 December 2015, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: Steve J on 03 December 2015, 08:04:45 PM
Blimey, that cuirass has taken saome hits! I wonder what caused that?
Yes, indeed. Dearie me. Who knows? Needle gun volley? (And these are the ones that hit the cuirass!) Hopefully quick for the poor guy.
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 December 2015, 10:34:33 AM
Must have been fairly close in then, any idea where its from?
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 December 2015, 10:34:45 AM
Clearly bayonette damage.
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: cameronian on 04 December 2015, 12:06:46 PM
Quote from: Westmarcher on 04 December 2015, 09:59:56 AM
Yes, indeed. Dearie me. Who knows? Needle gun volley? (And these are the ones that hit the cuirass!) Hopefully quick for the poor guy.


Nope, any takers ?
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Ace of Spades on 04 December 2015, 12:34:50 PM
Looks like an officers cuirass to me; so riding up front and with multiple hits at one time (I mean; you're bound to fall off after one of those hits!) my guess would be something like cannister... :-\
Another option is that it was used for target practice afterwards but I don't think it would be worthwhile to preserve it like that then...?

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 December 2015, 01:12:49 PM
Canister?
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: cameronian on 04 December 2015, 01:21:18 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 04 December 2015, 01:12:49 PM
Canister?

Getting warm Ace, officer's cuirasse, not canister nor bullets (French cuirasse, bulletproof).
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Ace of Spades on 04 December 2015, 01:28:31 PM
Oh, wait a minute...French...? Then it must be rust! :D
No sorry, silly remark but couldn't resist it... ;)

But reall'; the picture is rather small so the shape/size of the holes is hard to recognize. Would have to look up Prussian ammo types but maybe grape or shrapnel then?

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 December 2015, 01:31:29 PM
Swords from Vron?
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Ace of Spades on 04 December 2015, 01:32:24 PM
For as far as I can see the hole on the lower right of the picture seems rather 'round' and about 1,5cm wide so then my best guess would be grapeshot...

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: cameronian on 04 December 2015, 06:31:03 PM
Shell fragments.
According to Hardoin's Français & Allemands: histoire anecdotique de la guerre de 1870-1871, Archambault (or, to give his full name, Archambault de Beaune) was killed by a shell burst, which removed half his head. Apparently, neither this appalling injury nor the chest wounds indicated by the damage to his cuirasse killed him immediately and he lingered until 7 August, the day after Froeschwiller (Martimprey: Historique du 9e Régiment de Cuirassiers). The holes in the cuirasse shown on the photograph are more consistent with shell splinters than with rifle fire, especially since Archambault was charging on horseback when he was hit. Archambault was leading the regiment when he was mortally wounded because the colonel, Waternau, had already been unhorsed and captured.
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 December 2015, 06:34:50 PM
Wouch!
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: KTravlos on 05 December 2015, 10:55:45 PM
Poor man
Title: Re: The War of 1870-71 in pictures
Post by: Rob on 06 December 2015, 12:29:56 PM
I think this is such a good site it would be worth putting it into the Resources section.