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Title: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: Lord Raffles on 23 November 2015, 02:23:34 PM
Width and Height please!
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: Steve J on 23 November 2015, 03:54:34 PM
They all vary by a few millimetres from memory. A lot depends upon the manufacturer and what they feel is right visually. I've scratch built some accurate 1/144th scale buildings that have looked too small and have to scale them up a bit so that they look right. Ditto for doors and windows.
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: NeilCFord on 23 November 2015, 05:28:33 PM
The Kestrel railway station I'm currently putting together has doors 8mm wide by 15mm high. The Wargame Mods MDF terrace houses, 6mm x 13mm. Metcalfe seem to favour 6mm x 16mm. So anywhere around those values should work fine. Also depends on whether you are doing a one to one building representation or not.

- Neil.
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: Luddite on 23 November 2015, 05:59:40 PM
10mm = 5-6' right?  So surely a door should be around 12-14mm?
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: Leman on 23 November 2015, 09:22:59 PM
Strangely the doors on my 10mm buildings are 10mm scale. I also have 28mm scale buildings with 28mm doors, 15mm buildings with 15mm doors etc. Have I missed something here?
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: Leon on 23 November 2015, 09:44:20 PM
At 10mm scale (1:150th) 1ft = 2mm, so a door would be 13/14mm high.
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: Lord Raffles on 23 November 2015, 09:46:07 PM
Just found this interesting page:

http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news/what-is-scenery-scale-and-how-big-should-my-doors-be/

QuoteHere are the sizes for some other common wargames figures:

18mm (1/89) = 11.2mm x 24.9mm            (base = 1.9mm)

15mm (1/107) = 9.3mm x 20.7mm            (base = 1.6mm)

10mm (1/161) = 6.2mm x 13.8mm            (base = 1mm)

6mm (1/268) = 3.7mm x 8.3mm                 (base = 0.6mm)

(http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/scale-doors.jpg)

EDIT: Pic resized.
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: Leon on 23 November 2015, 10:02:25 PM
That's a handy pic, very useful.  The '10mm' version comes out to about right then, being just under 14mm high.  They seem to be off on a some of their scales though, 15mm is commonly accepted as being 1:100th, 6mm being 1:285th or 1:300th depending on which manufacturer you go to and we take 10mm as being 1:150th. 
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 November 2015, 10:31:35 PM
I believe 1:150 is UK N-gauge and 1:160 is US N-gauge when talking model railways. Maybe that explains the difference?
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: WeeWars on 25 November 2015, 10:44:46 AM
Can't imagine anything's changed since I posted this 4 years ago:

www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost06.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost06.htm)
Title: Re: What scale are your doors in 10mm?
Post by: Westmarcher on 25 November 2015, 11:55:34 AM
Good stuff, Wee Wars - and a very interesting and useful link, Raffles. Bottom line is - use a visual trick.

If you try to find out what "N" scale is, you'll see it is complicated. As Ithoriel says, it ranges from 1:148 to 1:160 but confusingly, both use "N" gauge tracks at 1:160 (the 'gauge' is the distance between the rails). As I understand that UK model railway "N" scale uses 1:148, in my mind, that means that UK trains / rolling stock models must be taller than they should be (as for length, I don't know).

However, as this seems to work well with railways, from a wargaming perspective, it shows how we can get away with a slightly higher vertical scale than the ground scale for not only our model doors but for the whole building also.