I say, gentlemen of the forum!
Being the sort of butterfly I am, I've been reading about Marlborough's sieges.
I'm now contemplating some sort of siege game - either horse and musket or medieval. What I'm short of are some walls.
My modelling skills being what they are (about as rare as an unaccompanied female at a wargames convention) I wonder if anyone has any advice about either easy scratch building or perhaps even commercially available units at a reasonable price?
If you are one of those forum members who likes their figures to brawl over Wendy Houses then Magister Militum does some Vaubanesque pieces in 1:285 scale.
Or you could do the whole thing in 2mm scale courtesy of Irregular Miniatures :)
Well, I was kind of hoping for something a bit bigger.
Kallistra do some which look quite good for the medieval and ancients.
http://paperterrain.mybisi.com/product/vauban-fortress-with-4-sides
http://paperterrain.mybisi.com/product/5-sided-vauban-fortress-expansion-kit
http://paperterrain.mybisi.com/product/vauban-fortress-outer-works
No need for painting!
Wee Wars has some nice medievalesque castle parts.
How much are you looking to shell out?
Quote from: petercooman on 17 November 2015, 07:31:55 PM
http://paperterrain.mybisi.com/product/vauban-fortress-with-4-sides
http://paperterrain.mybisi.com/product/5-sided-vauban-fortress-expansion-kit
http://paperterrain.mybisi.com/product/vauban-fortress-outer-works
No need for painting!
I say, they're rather splendid!
Quote from: Duckman on 17 November 2015, 07:40:05 PM
How much are you looking to shell out?
Don't know really ... wait! Is that just another duck pun? :-\
Quote from: fsn on 17 November 2015, 07:45:31 PM
I say, they're rather splendid!
Yes, i've been drooling over some of their european buildings
http://paperterrain.mybisi.com/product/ste-mere-eglise-church
http://paperterrain.mybisi.com/product/european-farmhouse-complex
Never really taken to paper buildings. Too flimsy, fiddly and frustrating in my experience. Some of them do look good when built by those with the patience and dexterity required though. Give me resin, metal, mdf or substantial chunks of plastic. :)
The KAllistra stuff is fabulous, Well worth the money
Leven 6mm; they've got medieval and other fortifications that look very plausible on the field. Magiter Militum also do a super crusades-friendly 6mm castle, though at 15 pounds it's not cheap.
Hello FSN
My personal card model favourite for a castle model is:-
(http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm374/mauther/house%20building/castedom.jpg)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3in2o_l5JOPUnVlbTNFa0dEZFE/edit (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3in2o_l5JOPUnVlbTNFa0dEZFE/edit)
There's also the Brumbaer Warmaster models:-
http://www.brumbaer.com/Wm/Build/ (http://www.brumbaer.com/Wm/Build/)
(http://www.brumbaer.com/Wm/Build/images/Mauer.gif)(http://www.brumbaer.com/Wm/Build/images/BurgFrei.gif)
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Try tosach
http://www.toshachminiatures.com/Free.htm
Some nice stuff certain there's a free castle download
Regards
Sean
Or our own Marvellous Michael...
Depending on the period and area of course; N-scale railwaybuildings by Faller are ideal for late medieval up to the Napoleonic era in large parts of Europe.
They can be picked up quite cheaply often second hand on the internet; meaning they're built and there's no need for painting. Also a bit more sturdy than paper models.
Downside is that they are indeed typical for certain periods and parts of Europe...but then again; so are most models.
Cheers,
Rob
You still have the opportunity to be the first Pendraken Forum member to own a 10mm castle model whose design was built upon the requests of members of the Pendraken Forum.
To quote Grease, 'tell me more, tell me more'.
Quote from: fsn on 19 November 2015, 06:28:40 AM
To quote Grease, 'tell me more, tell me more'.
"I got very far.
But I haven't designed a car." Yet.
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11664.270.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11664.270.html)
http://www.supremelittleness.co.uk/castles10mm.htm (http://www.supremelittleness.co.uk/castles10mm.htm)
If, like me, you prefer to do bigger battles with 6mm buildings, then Total Battle Miniatures do a very nice walled town with crenelated citadel in their 6mm Big Battalions Pike and Shotte range. It looks to me as though it would also suit later Medieval.
Quote from: Leman on 19 November 2015, 05:25:12 PM
If, like me, you prefer to do bigger battles with 6mm buildings, then Total Battle Miniatures do a very nice walled town with crenelated citadel in their 6mm Big Battalions Pike and Shotte range. It looks to me as though it would also suit later Medieval.
Like Leman, I am a proponent of using 6mm buildings (or Wendy Houses as they are SO amusingly termed by some forum members) for big battles, rather than sharing the illusion of some that London consists of a pub, a church, and a cowshed, each of which is large enough to conceal at least a brigade within its footprint. :D So much more realistic!
Anyway, getting back to serious matters, if you are willing to conside 6mm buidlings, you might do worse than to pop an e mail into the ether to Mick at Leven Miniatures. He has a beautiful range of walls and towers in development, and might be able to produce some in a reasonable timescale for you. Certainly worth an ask. They look great!
Mollinary
Just go online to Google Earth look at the castle/Fort if it is still there then build it I did Fishguard Fort in 28mm just for a static display I also have ground plans of
Manobier castle
Pembroke castle
Cillgerran Castle
Carew Castle
All these paper castles and Laser cut and current resin but none of them look anything like a real castle
so pick a real one and build it :D :D
Quote from: mart678 on 19 November 2015, 06:20:11 PM
so pick a real one and build it :D :D
:o Yeah ... but no, but ... that's not going to happen.
Quote from: mollinary on 19 November 2015, 05:57:55 PM
Like Leman, I am a proponent of using 6mm buildings (or Wendy Houses as they are SO amusingly termed by some forum members) for big battles, rather than sharing the illusion of some that London consists of a pub, a church, and a cowshed, each of which is large enough to conceal at least a brigade within its footprint. :D So much more realistic!
I'm definitely looking at 10mm.
I don't see any problem using smaller scale buildings. Evidence indicates that buildings in medieval times were much smaller than we give them credit for.
http://www.istockphoto.com/vector/siege-of-jargeau-35045516 (http://www.istockphoto.com/vector/siege-of-jargeau-35045516)
See. :P
Quote from: mollinary on 19 November 2015, 05:57:55 PM
Like Leman, I am a proponent of using 6mm buildings (or Wendy Houses as they are SO amusingly termed by some forum members) for big battles, rather than sharing the illusion of some that London consists of a pub, a church, and a cowshed, each of which is large enough to conceal at least a brigade within its footprint. :D So much more realistic!
<snip>
If it works for you, go to it. I remain bemused by people who can get their heads around a 24 man battalion (or worse still brigade!) but can't make the same adjustment for terrain. Not saying you're wrong, just that it doesn't work for me ... Oh, OK, so maybe not saying you're wrong just that you're weird :D
Quote from: Ithoriel on 19 November 2015, 07:42:33 PM
If it works for you, go to it. I remain bemused by people who can get their heads around a 24 man battalion (or worse still brigade!) but can't make the same adjustment for terrain. Not saying you're wrong, just that it doesn't work for me ... Oh, OK, so maybe not saying you're wrong just that you're weird :D
Seems to me we're all weird (well, we knew that anyway .. except fsn ... and Fiercekitty .... and ......)
Whether we use 10mm or smaller scale buildings for our 10mm figures, how many of us really use 10mm scale terrain? For example, the typical heights of Oak, Beech and Pine trees are 20-30m (Oak), up to 50m (Beech) and 15-45m (Pine). This means if we choose to "match" our 10 mm miniatures with 10mm scale buildings, our matching "10mm" model trees should therefore be between 2 inches (5cm) and 10 inches (25cm) high - i.e, on average, some 6 inches (15cm high). How many of us use model trees as tall as 10 inches for our 10mm miniatures?
And then there's the height of hills ..... ~X(
A voice of reason which it would well behove us to heed.
Quote from: Westmarcher on 19 November 2015, 10:41:18 PM
How many of us use model trees as tall as 10 inches for our 10mm miniatures?
40' - 90' palm trees to go with my 6mm Sumerians. If anything, a little on the big side!
Not to mention how big your model of Humbaba will have to be!
Fortunately I'm going more for Eannatum's era than Gilgamesh's so only have human sized foes to deal with.
No BAMs in my planned forces ... so far :)
Quote from: Westmarcher on 19 November 2015, 10:41:18 PM
Seems to me we're all weird (well, we knew that anyway .. except fsn ... and Fiercekitty .... and ......)
Whether we use 10mm or smaller scale buildings for our 10mm figures, how many of us really use 10mm scale terrain? For example, the typical heights of Oak, Beech and Pine trees are 20-30m (Oak), up to 50m (Beech) and 15-45m (Pine). This means if we choose to "match" our 10 mm miniatures with 10mm scale buildings, our matching "10mm" model trees should therefore be between 2 inches (5cm) and 10 inches (25cm) high - i.e, on average, some 6 inches (15cm high). How many of us use model trees as tall as 10 inches for our 10mm miniatures?
And then there's the height of hills ..... ~X(
Think i'm good on the tree front :D
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/bkc/DSC02776_zps08fcbb56.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/bkc/DSC02776_zps08fcbb56.jpg.html)