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Title: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 12 November 2015, 09:14:55 AM
Well it seems sort of official as most of the GW stores in Australia have it on their Facebook pages and according to a couple pages have consent by the CEO to release the news that...

GW will be starting to release their Specialist Games ranges again

Deep down I am still doubtful but fingers crossed
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Leon on 12 November 2015, 09:42:48 AM
Hmm, that's a surprise to me!  I thought those were well and truly dead and buried, so bringing them back would be quite a turnaround by GW.  I always took their demise as a sign that they weren't profitable (or profitable enough) so could it be an indication that they've not quite hit the jackpot with Age of Sigmar and are looking for any way of bringing in new sales (and bringing old customers back)?
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 12 November 2015, 09:45:44 AM
One if the posts mentions  a new GW studio in association with Forge World. I wonder if its an attempt to lure some of their old sculptors and designers back
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Leon on 12 November 2015, 09:49:24 AM
Possibly, but there could be some interesting issues depending on how the original games systems were designed.  Were the designers paid as part of a studio purely to develop the rules, or were their royalties involved dependant on sales/printruns?  It would be quite funny if they relaunched Warmaster and had to start paying Rick Priestley again even though he's now working for Warlord.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 12 November 2015, 09:52:12 AM
I did notice on the original post that Warmaster was quite noticeable by its absence

And as I mentioned old designers and sculptors. SIT DOWN Phil your not going anywhere
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Techno on 12 November 2015, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: Fenton on 12 November 2015, 09:52:12 AM
And as I mentioned old designers and sculptors. SIT DOWN Phil your not going anywhere

I don't think there's any danger of that, Steve.  :P
Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 12 November 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: Techno on 12 November 2015, 10:36:03 AM
I don't think there's any danger of that, Steve.  :P
Cheers - Phil



Still can't pick the locks on your chains then!?
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Techno on 12 November 2015, 10:58:16 AM
It's being stuck to the chair with 'superglue' that's the bigger problem.  :P
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 12 November 2015, 11:01:41 AM
Isn't there a dremel attachment that could help?
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Techno on 12 November 2015, 11:07:08 AM
Yes......But I haven't got time for a trip to casualty today.
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 12 November 2015, 11:11:13 AM
Quote from: Techno on 12 November 2015, 11:07:08 AM
Yes......But I haven't got time for a trip to casualty today.
Cheers - Phil.
:) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Tawa on 12 November 2015, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: Techno on 12 November 2015, 10:58:16 AM
It's being stuck to the chair with 'superglue' that's the bigger problem.  :P
Cheers - Phil

Superglue. Yeah, right! You've been browsing the Top Totty thread again haven't you?  :D
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 12 November 2015, 11:55:26 AM
Quote from: Tawa on 12 November 2015, 11:52:53 AM
Superglue. Yeah, right! You've been browsing the Top Totty thread again haven't you?  :D
Thanks for that image

My brain has now shutdown
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ace of Spades on 12 November 2015, 01:45:53 PM
Unbelievable how quick an, in itself interesting and worthwhile, thread derailed again in pronographic insinuations and useless nonsense!  :o

I'm proud of you all! :D

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: NeilCFord on 12 November 2015, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: Tawa on 12 November 2015, 11:52:53 AM
Superglue. Yeah, right! You've been browsing the Top Totty thread again haven't you?  :D

Superglue and lube should definitely never be stored in the same place or in identical containers!

- Neil.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ithoriel on 12 November 2015, 02:01:21 PM
Quote from: Ace of Spades on 12 November 2015, 01:45:53 PM
Unbelievable how quick an, in itself interesting and worthwhile, thread derailed again in pronographic insinuations and useless nonsense!  :o

Unsubstantiated rumours about products I'm no longer interested in, being produced by a company I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw it ... into the teeth of a hurricane .... with one hand tied behind my back ... derail away :D

Don't GW have a big release for something they actually produce scheduled around now?

No such thing as bad publicity? Or am I being unduly cynical?
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Leman on 12 November 2015, 03:28:11 PM
Well I for one would be interested if Warmaster Empire figures reappeared.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ithoriel on 12 November 2015, 03:34:17 PM
There are so many cheaper options these days that I'm not sure I'd care. One or two Araby units maybe but that's about it.

I'm amazed if they are releasing all of these games at once - it used to be there were two or three fully available at a time. Also, I understood they were planning to move to entirely plastic and resin - not sure where that leaves all of the metal models Specialist games did.

Time will tell but if it turns out to be true I'm currently expecting it won't involve systems I'm interested in and/ or prices will be more ludicrous than ever.

I'd love to be proved wrong! 
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Leman on 12 November 2015, 03:40:06 PM
You never know, they might have had a consultant in from Aldi who's given them some tips on how not to price themselves out of the market, and the joys of diversification.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ace of Spades on 12 November 2015, 06:09:55 PM
I never understood why they quit all these games their 'old fans' loved; all the moulds and models were there; it was just a question of keeping it alive. Nobody expected anything new or extraordinary; it was just a question of keeping it rolling along... Ah well; we'll see what happens.

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 12 November 2015, 06:17:28 PM
There are rumours that Forgeworld will be looking after them so God knows what the prices will be like if any of it is true
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Techno on 12 November 2015, 06:51:43 PM
I doubt very much if the 'master moulds' still exist.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: NeilCFord on 12 November 2015, 06:57:14 PM
Any decision like this is going to have been driven by falling sales figures. I know from personal experience that independent retailers have been selling less. Whether that's because parents finally had enough of the rising prices or today's kids have finally moved on to something else, I'm not certain, but it was definitely happening.

Finding a way to attract older fans, those with their own disposable income makes sense, Whether they can pull it off is another thing.

- Neil.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Leon on 12 November 2015, 06:59:48 PM
If it's ForgeWorld looking after these then I wouldn't expect to see WM or Epic returning anytime soon.  The lower profits in smaller scales combined with added costs/hassle of producing everything in resin wouldn't add up for the moneymen in the boardroom.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Orcs on 12 November 2015, 08:16:18 PM
Had n't the warmaster stuff risen to £16 a unit just before its demise.


Oh no I should have not mentioned that Leon's Eyes have glazed over after he suddendly realised that if he converted Pendraken sales to GW prices he could afford that Ferrari.

Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ace of Spades on 12 November 2015, 08:17:35 PM
Ah well, still got tons of Epic in the attic so nog shortages for the next century I guess. Fir Warmaster we have our suppliers now :D Also not a very smart move of GW; first let everybody find a new and much cheaper supplier for thier gamers needs and then try to get them back to the overpriced stuff... we'll see!

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 November 2015, 12:26:08 AM
What is "pronography"? Images of people lying on their tummies?
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Leman on 13 November 2015, 08:07:03 AM
Someone's let the cat out of the bag again - switch your spellcheckers on please gents.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 13 November 2015, 08:58:29 AM
Just tried my spell checker. It is working fine. It's still choosing the completely wrong words when it's meant to
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ace of Spades on 13 November 2015, 09:43:41 AM
Typing English on a Dutch computer (No, I don't mean it was made in the Netherlands, it's the settings I refer to!) means the spell checker doesn't always work.... In this message for example it underlines the words 'don't', 'mean', 'it's' etc. So even even if I could be bothered it wouldn't do much good... (oh, apparently 'good' is not spelled correctly either!).
So I just switched the pc to 'whatever' and that seems to work just fine! For me that is... :D ;)

Cheers,
Rob (hey, the spell checker does accept my name!)
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 13 November 2015, 09:53:17 AM
Not quite the same but I do use Google translate when on the Dutch wargaming fb page.I have even thought about using it to list in Dutch but I would be afraid of starting some of international incident by mistake
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ace of Spades on 13 November 2015, 10:36:07 AM
Quote from: Fenton on 13 November 2015, 09:53:17 AM
Not quite the same but I do use Google translate when on the Dutch wargaming fb page.I have even thought about using it to list in Dutch but I would be afraid of starting some of international incident by mistake
Hahaha, we'll be sailing up the Medway again before you know it! ;)
Even so; the faults that occur are just mistakes/typos so I don't really mind. Actually found the description for 'pronography' very creative! ;D

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 13 November 2015, 10:47:04 AM
Maybe they were using it when the Dutch swapped the Island of Run for New Amsterdam. Maybe they thought they were getting something else instead
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: petercooman on 13 November 2015, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: Leon on 12 November 2015, 06:59:48 PM
If it's ForgeWorld looking after these then I wouldn't expect to see WM or Epic returning anytime soon.  The lower profits in smaller scales combined with added costs/hassle of producing everything in resin wouldn't add up for the moneymen in the boardroom.

Actually the forgeworld stuff for epic was (and still is) quite popular with the epic community, especially the titans and flyers.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 November 2015, 03:46:01 PM
More interested in Onslaught for Epic than FW myself. Delighted to see they have a UK distributor now.

Really, really want a pack or three of the Mercenary wolves once they are released. Though in that case it's for use with my 6mm Sumerians! There's currently a sad lack of wolves and sheep dogs in 6mm!

Now, just a couple of 6mm cheetah figures to find and I'm all set :)
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 13 November 2015, 03:50:37 PM
The onslaught stuff is nice but I like the defeat in detail range as well and some of them lok suspiciously like marines  and Imperial guard
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 November 2015, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 13 November 2015, 03:50:37 PM
The onslaught stuff is nice but I like the defeat in detail range as well and some of them lok suspiciously like marines  and Imperial guard

Yes, very convenient that Vanguard are UK suppliers of both, too.
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 13 November 2015, 04:02:31 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 13 November 2015, 04:00:46 PM
Yes, very convenient that Vanguard are UK suppliers of both, too.

Yup I am hoping they take the Microworld ranges on as well
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 November 2015, 04:13:16 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 13 November 2015, 04:02:31 PM
Yup I am hoping they take the Microworld ranges on as well

That would be nice, right enough. All the 6mm sci-fi ranges I'm interested in in one place!
Title: Re: Specialist Games
Post by: Fenton on 13 November 2015, 04:16:22 PM
Would be nice. I know Microworld are looking for someone in the UK to sell their range