Having takemn the plunge on ACW I am looking for some suitable buildings. Obviously theere are the two Epsilom Barns, but what other buildings would members recommend, also what scale.
I know this sounds obvious, but the excellent Timecast buildings are built to a true groud scale and are realative large footprints, so I am looking for smaller footprints, but no so small that the doors etc look wrong
The pendraken ones are nice!
The 5 on the right on the first picture
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8873.0.html
Quote from: petercooman on 27 October 2015, 02:53:02 PM
The pendraken ones are nice!
The 5 on the right on the first picture
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8873.0.html
They are rteally nice - how on earth did I miss them on the webpage- DOH!
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 27 October 2015, 01:56:33 PM
Having taken the plunge on ACW I am looking for some suitable buildings. Obviously there are the two Epsilon Barns, but what other buildings would members recommend, also what scale.
If I hadn't opted for 15mm some years back, and opted for 10mm instead, I think I would go for 6mm scale buildings (with the emphasis on buildings more than 1 storey high). Why? Greater choice plus my own European 6mm buildings fit in fine with my Pendraken SYW armies. Total Battle Miniatures have a good choice of American buildings and other scenic items in 6mm (see link).
http://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/bigbattalions/6mm/americana.html (http://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/bigbattalions/6mm/americana.html)
Didn't know you were doing ACW - 10mm I take it. How you basing? I happen to know two guys at Tring have 10mm ACW...
I too would go down a scale. I bought 6mm buildings (TBM) for my 6mm ACW armies - way too big. The 6mm are going to my brother (who has 10mm ACW) and I now use the Altar of Freedom free 3mm buildings.
Buildings in Turmoil have some nice buildings. A lot of Gettysburg stuff and expanding into other battles.
As I say every time the subject arises: 6mm buildings for 10mm figures gives the best compromise.
Still struggling with the idea that anyone wants their figures brawling over the possession of a bunch of Wendy Houses. Seriously, if 24 figures is a battalion why can't one house be a village? 10mm figures with 6mm scenery ... does not compute!
Ithoriel, you do it your way and we'll do it ours.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1412_zpsflud3th0.jpg)
Small battle, with a battalion represented with 10mm buildings.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20SYW/IMG_1440_zpsxr68sf3d.jpg)
Large battle, with regiments defending a 6mm town.
All fine .... if this is the look you're going for :)
(http://photos.francisfrith.com/frith/beaconsfield-bekonscot-model-village-c1955_b609066.jpg)
Clearly not, as you can plainly see that the 10mm figures do not stand taller than the 6mm buildings.
I've been thinking about going with 6mm, but I think Ithoriel's right. :o
A model definitely isn't one building, its what the footprint represents - you go with the ground scale for footprint, so in BP a 2cm x 1cm building is actually 20 x 10 yards ( using cms not inches), with various buildings in. In 10mm, 10mm houses are still too often small in figure scale. the troops in Leman's town do look like people with pituitary problems. Even in 6mm the footprint is too big to be a single building.
Quote from: Leman on 07 November 2015, 10:54:16 AM
Ithoriel, you do it your way and we'll do it ours.
It's not that I necessarily expect people to do something just because I do but equally much I wouldn't want those who feel as I do (if there are any!) to feel they are in a minority of one.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 07 November 2015, 06:50:59 PM
I've been thinking about going with 6mm, but I think Ithoriel's right. :o
I'm gratified to hear it LH. Though ... agreeing with me? A dangerous precedent to set :)
Should've read this before posting the one above. Would've saved an edit :-)
You're worried? I'm booking a doctors appointment on Monday!
And I'm going to see the undertaker...
Quote from: Last Hussar on 07 November 2015, 06:50:59 PM
I've been thinking about going with 6mm, but I think Ithoriel's right. :o
A model definitely isn't one building, its what the footprint represents - you go with the ground scale for footprint, so in BP a 2cm x 1cm building is actually 20 x 10 yards ( using cms not inches), with various buildings in. In 10mm, 10mm houses are still too often small in figure scale. the troops in Leman's town do look like people with pituitary problems. Even in 6mm the footprint is too big to be a single building.
Just to mess with your mind, the next issue is "boats." What scale to use for ACW ships, gunboats and river steamers etc.? Thinking of actions which involved or could involve naval forces (e.g., Shiloh).
Don't.
That's that one solved.
Hmmmm. I've never tried 6mm buildings with 10mm figures, mostly because I play a lot of modern conflicts at 1:1 figure scale. Can't say the idea of 6mm building ever occurred to me.
Sorry, Ithoriel, I have to agree with you. 10mm buildings for 10mm figures.
Current posts suggest the forum may feel that 1:3000 scale ships would be best.
I offer this prooif that this true scale :D
(http://www.houseoftheorangemonkey.co.uk/monkey/trips/images/trip941906q.jpg)
(http://inthefastlaneevents.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Manpowered.jpg)
(http://www.thescarboroughnews.co.uk/webimage/1.6782723.1407924220!/image/3081063355.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/3081063355.jpg)
to further confuse matters I use 10mm ships in my 15mm games.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Longstreet/IMG_0966_zps7cbf4852.jpg)
Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 November 2015, 09:39:47 PM
Didn't know you were doing ACW - 10mm I take it. How you basing? I happen to know two guys at Tring have 10mm ACW...
I am basing on 25 x 25mm for normal infantry stands (Normal fire and fury bases) but 6 figures in two ranks. So they will be close enough to yours and Sunjesters
Thanks for all the ideas. I really like the TBM buildings so may be tempted with 6mm Buildimgs, but I will wait till i see them in the flesh at a show.
It will be a while before the ACW stuff hits the painting table
Quote from: Westmarcher on 08 November 2015, 10:53:16 AM
Just to mess with your mind, the next issue is "boats." What scale to use for ACW ships, gunboats and river steamers etc.? Thinking of actions which involved or could involve naval forces (e.g., Shiloh).
What ground scale are you using? How big will your rivers/sea be :-\
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 08 November 2015, 02:38:58 PM
I am basing on 25 x 25mm for normal infantry stands (Normal fire and fury bases) but 6 figures in two ranks. So they will be close enough to yours and Sunjesters
SJ has his in 2 x 3. I'm using 7/8 for a more ragged/dynamic look. Allow us to introduce you to They Couldn't Hit an Elephant.
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 08 November 2015, 02:46:00 PM
Thanks for all the ideas. I really like the TBM buildings so may be tempted with 6mm Buildimgs, but I will wait till i see them in the flesh at a show.
I'm not sure if anyone carries the 6mm ACW line at the shows, might be worth popping them an email to check?
Orcs, are you going to Warfare? I am taking some TBM 6mm ACW buildings there to pass on to my brother, who has just got into 10mm ACW. I'll be there in my Lance and Longbow polo and a Leman lanyard (carnation in lapel?).
Quote from: Leman on 09 November 2015, 09:49:41 AM
Orcs, are you going to Warfare? I am taking some TBM 6mm ACW buildings there to pass on to my brother, who has just got into 10mm ACW. I'll be there in my Lance and Longbow polo and a Leman lanyard (carnation in lapel?).
Bugger ! I am not going to make it as I start a week of nights tonight, but thanks for the offer.
Life's a botch!!
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 08 November 2015, 02:46:00 PM
Thanks for all the ideas. I really like the TBM buildings so may be tempted with 6mm Buildimgs, but I will wait till i see them in the flesh at a show.
It will be a while before the ACW stuff hits the painting table
About 5-6 years based on the painting time for the British WSS!!! ;) :d :d
Quote from: sunjester on 10 November 2015, 12:26:52 PM
About 5-6 years based on the painting time for the British WSS!!! ;) :d :d
Thats OK, plenty of time acording to my lead mountain I am going to live to 183.
Anyway its not my fault.
We did lots of BKC at club so I had to paint up the Western Desert stuff then the pOles then the germans to go against them =.
They did a Chain of Command league at club, so I had to get early war stuff painted, then they did a Saga campaign so I had to paint up Vikings for Saga.
I didn't realise until Sj told me tonight you hadn't even started painting the figures. A little early to worry about buildings.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 12 November 2015, 12:27:14 AM
I didn't realise until Sj told me tonight you hadn't even started painting the figures. A little early to worry about buildings.
:o
;D =O 8-}