With the new additions to the Flodden range, the current Landsknecht range, the Stradiots from the Elizabethan range and various codes from the late Medieval range, the Great Italian Wars are now almost within reach purely from Pendraken. I can only see three possible omissions, particularly from the early part of the wars: Spanish Genitors, Italian militia spearmen with pavise (possibly some of the Scots front rank pike, but I doubt militia would have much in the way of plate armour), and sword and buckler men (the Spaniard in the Elizabethan range is too late). Consequently I would like to put in a request for those three to complete what is now a superb selection of figures for this period.
I second this request, should be easy to squeeze in :)
cheers
Ian
They sound very useful additions
Why not, also useful for beating up contemp ammies.
IanS
This would be brilliant. Please add my vote to this request.
:) Rob
Count me in :).
Glaring omission - mounted arquebusiers! Can chop the arms off theountes xbows but proper ones would be nice :D
And some "new sculpt" style foot arquebusiers would be ace as well!
There's the mounted handgunner in late Medieval, but unarmored mtd arq would be nice, New foot arquebusiers in the Flodden range, plus original Flodden arquebusiers plus the Landsknecht arquebusiers.
Id discounted the new French Arquebusiers as too similar to the existing late medieval pack - the helmeted guy looked identical whilst the bloke in hat was very similar between the two. Are they much different in the flesh? If so I might add a pack ;)
The ELM mounted handgunner I thought was a bit too out of period? Or am I confusing him with another pack (super heavy cavalry with pistol?). Without piccies for them I'm always a bit hesitant... I think I thought he was too heavily armoured, hence chopping the relatively lightly armoured mounted xbows instead ;)
I'm not very keen on those landsknecte handgunners, they were a bit static and not up to the standard of current sculpts. Think the League of Augsberg stuff has spoiled me :D
Hi
If you do not like the Pendraken Landsknect arquebusiers then try
http://warmonger-miniatures.com/store/10mm-landsknechte/
Hey re exceptionally nice - I keep nearly going for their Kickstaters but the price is too much :/
Maybe...
I don't think they are that expensive. Factor in the exchange rate and the number of figures per pack.
Or compare to Warmaster prices!
Trouble is they are in pluderhosen which is more suitable for the Wars of Religion coming after the Italian Wars.
Quote from: fred. on 25 October 2015, 12:02:20 PM
I don't think they are that expensive. Factor in the exchange rate and the number of figures per pack.
Or compare to Warmaster prices!
Add in postage, duty and the Post Office's ridiculous handling charge and I'm happy to stick with Pendraken!
A third more expensive even being generous, then as others have noted there's then postage and duty... Makes it potentially very painful :/
Count with me for the Leman's proposal
I would love some Italian wars figures. In 10 mm you could have real pike blocks. In my 28mm figures I have 96 but they take up so much space on the table. So 10mm would be my preferred scale. Pereira lay with open hands and sell wire separately to be cut down and glued in
Well of course the new Flooded figures have made the Italian Wars a real goer now. I have acquired a number of figures from this range, the late medieval range, Warmaster Empire figures and a few MM, particularly Swiss and Italian pike. Even the Elizabethan sword and buckler and pike are acceptable as Spaniards, especially as some of them still sport tight hose and burgonet helmets. As far as I can tell, the only specific figure missing now is a Spanish genitor (jinete?). I am unable to see from the photos whether the Floodden border horse have shields - even if they do they will not be of the traditional Spanish shape. there is also the possibility of giving the demi-lancer figure a small Spanish shield of paper or green stuff, but as I say, this now seems to be the only figure missing. [re. the bagpiper in the Flodden Scottish command pack - the Swiss also used bagpipers.]
This topic arises every 18 months or so, I think. Understandably; the renaissance makes for super gaming.
The stupid autocorrect insists on writing Flodden as Flooded!!! >:( >:( >:(
However, great progress has been made in the last few months so that only one figure is now needed to round it out.
Yup, would agree with most of what has been said, my own hit list would be:
16th Century costume and armour
Mounted arquebusiers
Mounted crossbows
Petronnels
Reiters - late and early
Irish (Elizabethan period)- kerns with bows, darts and firearms; gallowglasses; bonnachts with pikes and firearms; redshanks; Irish horse. Basically what was in the late Pendraken 28mm range.
With what's available already it would push things into mid and late century in the British Isles and expand the possibilities for Italy- 'Rough Wooing', Pinkie, Yellow Ford, etc. IMHO
Whadda ya mean, Pendraken didn't have a 28mm range? :D:
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Hoka Hey do 'em now. They are on the 'heroic +' side of the scale.
Hi I am the madman who persuaded Phil and Leon to indulge my Flodden / Tudors Wars tendencices! I think both Leman and SV52 have made great suggestions to allow for expansion into Italian Wars, later Tudor such as Rough Wooing and Ireland and also Wars of Religion. Please count me as a definite supporter of these requests!
Scott
Great stuff. Today the Venetians didn't run away, and the might of the Habsburgs was chastised by the valour of French arms (well, the Swiss played a part, I admit).
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If this pans out it will be a great range, and steal a march on most of the other 10mm firms.
I'll add my votes for genitors, Italian city militia with spear, mounted arquebusiers, and add another for the earlier Italians - a carroccio.
Count me in as well. I like all the opportunities this will open up...Italian Wars, Conquistadors, Ireland, the Borders etc...
Getting a lot more takers than I thought. Surely this must be a goer! Now To the Strongest is working on a C16th variant.
Quote from: Leman on 31 August 2016, 02:34:18 PM
Getting a lot more takers than I thought. Surely this must be a goer!
I would replace my 6mm armies if they do
cheers
Ian
I'd be in for that.
I'd also like to see more poses for sword and buckler men (and other ranges where there's only the one pose).
Think I've already commented on S&B men and also mounted arquebusiers.
Major bump! Just bought the Furioso rules and the first Helion book. Watching Yarkshire Gamer doesn't help....
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What would also be interesting - and as far as I know nobody does these in any scale let alone 10mm - are early C16th armed peasantry.
They would be ideal for the German Peasants Wars, the Cornish Rebellions and Pilgrimage of Grace etc. As well as providing additions to the Italian Wars conflicts. And you'd need literally 'fousands of em, sah!
Just a thought
Quote from: Big Insect on 14 June 2023, 07:57:32 PMWhat would also be interesting - and as far as I know nobody does these in any scale let alone 10mm - are early C16th armed peasantry.
They would be ideal for the German Peasants Wars, the Cornish Rebellions and Pilgrimage of Grace etc. As well as providing additions to the Italian Wars conflicts. And you'd need literally 'fousands of em, sah!
Just a thought
You might need thousands of them you actually need them, but.... Will enough people actually want them?
They do sound quite handy, I must admit.
Quote from: toxicpixie on 29 June 2023, 11:34:50 PMYou might need thousands of them you actually need them, but.... Will enough people actually want them?
They do sound quite handy, I must admit.
I agree - a very 'niche' range :D
Artizan Miniatures do some really nice early C16th German Peasants revolt figure: https://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&cat=165&page=1
Not a huge range (considering, as you say, you'd need 'fousands of em! to make an army) but they can be mixed in with both Wargames Foundry and Artizans Landsknechts, and the open-handed figures have a lot of uses in a skirmish type game (such as Frostgrave etc.).
We need a bump here...
Do I hold off for the stuff i need here or wait for Baccus to finish their 6mm Italian wars range?
Quote from: Scorpio_Rocks on 19 September 2024, 11:03:57 AMDo I hold off for the stuff i need here or wait for Baccus to finish their 6mm Italian wars range?
There's nothing coming in our short-mid term plans I'm afraid, too many projects already on the go!
Leon I'm going to get shouted at but WORK FASTER :d :d
QuoteDo I hold off for the stuff i need here or wait for Baccus to finish their 6mm Italian wars range?
First announced, what, 18 months ago? 2 years? And they've only just released the first set of figures.
QuoteWe need a bump here...
Do I hold off for the stuff i need here or wait for Baccus to finish their 6mm Italian wars range?
I've gone up market(!) 15mm Venexia from Lancashire games.
https://www.lancashiregames.com/lg/the-great-italian-wars.html
QuoteDo I hold off for the stuff i need here or wait for Baccus to finish their 6mm Italian wars range?
This has reminded me that I picked up the Ravenfeast Viking army pack - at last years Colours - and done nowt with them.
So, break them out, see what I can build (probably) using the Age of Fantasy: Regiments ruleset.
Can I find them? Nope, nowhere to be seen. Clearly I've put them somewhere very safe indeed.
Quote from: Raider4 on 24 September 2024, 12:46:28 PMClearly I've put them somewhere very safe indeed.
Thank God! It's not just me. I've got a 15mm War and Empire Republican Roman Army tucked away somewhere so safe I can't find it at all! I've rummaged through box after box in the attic, can I find it? No.
I bought it about eight years ago, put it somewhere 'safe' about seven years ago and haven't seen it since! I mean come on the house isn't that big for goodness sake!
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