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Title: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Nosher on 22 October 2015, 02:59:53 PM
Ive got a number of sci-fi armies in 6 and 10mm that havent seen the light of day for some time that I would love to get back on the table including space marine, space ork, squats, pax arcadian, kraytonian, aliens and colonial marines.

I primarily gamed with FWC but it didn't really float my boat :(

What other sci-fi rules are people using that they might recommend?
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Steve J on 22 October 2015, 03:21:43 PM
I like Angel Barracks free KR-16 rules. Simple and fun, but very much a skirmish game with individual bases. I tried Gruntz but despite rave reviews just didn't work for me.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Nosher on 22 October 2015, 03:56:45 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 22 October 2015, 03:21:43 PM
I like Angel Barracks free KR-16 rules. Simple and fun, but very much a skirmish game with individual bases. I tried Gruntz but despite rave reviews just didn't work for me.

Cheers Steve. Do the KR16 rules include vehicles and Titans/War machines etc?
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: NeilCFord on 22 October 2015, 05:15:23 PM
I am honour bound to suggest Gruntz, but only because the author is a friend. I've also heard good things about Tomorrow's War, but not actually used them.

As the Angel Barracks rules are free and they are designed for 6mm, IIRC, then I'd suggest starting with those - http://angelbarracks.co.uk/rules.html

- Neil.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Steve J on 22 October 2015, 05:59:14 PM
Thanks for putting the link up Neil :). KR-16 does cover vehicles, but not walkers from memory, but then I've haven't played the latest update. Osprey are bringing out some sci-fi rules soonish that look quite good from the demo game I saw at Blast-Tastic.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Genom on 22 October 2015, 06:01:48 PM
We still play Epic for all of our 6mm scifi, the net version is below.

http://www.net-armageddon.org/ (http://www.net-armageddon.org/)

The other one we quite liked (but admittedly haven't played in ages) was Dirtside by Ground Zero Games, takes a bit more work to get things ready, but it's primarily designed for vehicles with Infantry an Add on.  Their star grunts, is more for bigger scales and is Infantry based with the occasional vehicle.

We did try FWC and despite being big fans of BKC, it didn't quite feel right as scifi.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Glorfindel on 22 October 2015, 06:42:26 PM
A second vote for Epic.   Just love this game and our group usually play this
every Friday.

I particularly enjoy swapping the initiative back & forth throughout the turn
and the huge variety of tactical options this brings.

Some pics of my figures and games in progress :

http://s761.photobucket.com/user/glorfindel-666/library/#/user/glorfindel-666/library/Epic%20Armageddon?sort=3&page=0&_suid=144553926503303073492036476697 (http://s761.photobucket.com/user/glorfindel-666/library/#/user/glorfindel-666/library/Epic%20Armageddon?sort=3&page=0&_suid=144553926503303073492036476697)

Cheers,


Phil
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 October 2015, 07:21:54 PM
Another vote for Epic from me too.

Fun to play even if the rules are very retro and easy to slot in other manufacturers troops.

I'm eyeing up the Onslaught 6mm Battle Sisters and Okami Combine figures and trying to justify buying some despite having scores of Imperial vehicles and hundreds of figures still unpainted!

I've even played a couple of small Epic games in the past using 10mm figures on 30mm square bases - mainly old style Pendraken humies as Imperials vs assorted Giger-esque Aliens as Tyranids. Much fun was had ... even if my troops did largely wind up as lunch :(

Also - love your Epic stuff Phil!
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Steve J on 22 October 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Great looking Epic stuff old chap!
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: petercooman on 22 October 2015, 08:05:54 PM
Another vote for epic (i use epic 40k version)

sadly i only have a small army  :>

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC02251.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/DSC02251.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: fred. on 22 October 2015, 08:15:39 PM
I've enjoyed Epic Armageddon which I only started playing this year - built up a fairly large Tyranid army fairly quickly. And it has grown insect since the photo below. Some kind of freudian typo there...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CpdflCpUMQ8/VOpXVqfCjmI/AAAAAAAAETc/jZjEYGzmkDk/s1152-Ic42/FullSizeRender.jpg)

I quite like the basic rules, they give a good game. There are a few bits that take a bit of getting used too, and there are definitely some tactics that are non-obvious.  The army lists take a bit of getting your head around - partly in mapping units to figures, and partly due to the many special rules either for units, or just for constructing the army.

Also you will find there are umpteen (well at least 3) versions of Epic around and each has very different army lists, and somewhat different rules.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 22 October 2015, 10:04:07 PM
Hi

I've had fun with Seeds of War, written by Dark Realm Miniatures for their ranges, of course using what I had on hand and modifying. http://www.darkrealmminiatures.co.uk/downloads/ (http://www.darkrealmminiatures.co.uk/downloads/)

I've also used Get Some! Future Warfare. http://freewargamesrules.wikia.com/wiki/Get_Some!_Future_Warfare (http://freewargamesrules.wikia.com/wiki/Get_Some!_Future_Warfare)

I'd recommend going through the stuff listed at the Free Wargames Wiki http://freewargamesrules.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Science_Fiction (http://freewargamesrules.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Science_Fiction)

Tried Quadrant 13 by the Lardies but didn't like that rule set.

Dirtside II is also fun http://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=category&cat_id=130 (http://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=category&cat_id=130)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Last Hussar on 22 October 2015, 10:15:05 PM
TFL do a SF version of IABSM called Quadrant 13
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Fenton on 23 October 2015, 01:13:50 AM
I just got a copy of Laserstorm from Nordic Weasel games and they are very good. Quick, simple and bloody  but with some interesting C&C and the unit design rules are excellent
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 October 2015, 01:21:40 AM
Laser Storm looks good but ... pdf only? Meh, not interested!
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Fenton on 23 October 2015, 01:37:12 AM
It's not ideal but I can it printed in black and white double sided and spiral from doxdirect for £6 if I need to
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Shedman on 23 October 2015, 08:53:56 AM
The Berkeley Vale club has played a few games of Laserstorm

http://twomarshals.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/laserstorm-at-blast-tastic-2015.html

It's fast and furious and uses card activation

The only downside is that there are no army lists

I have coded up a unit and weapon calculator at http://twomarshals.blogspot.co.uk/p/laserstorm-calculator.html

Alan
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Fenton on 23 October 2015, 09:09:42 AM
That's handy

Cheers
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: NeilCFord on 24 October 2015, 05:35:58 PM
So, asking my own question...

What rules would people suggest to use with Pendraken's range? I'm guessing FWC would be in the frame, but what else? I'm thinking especially of any rule sets that handle the Bugs particularly well.

- Neil.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: toxicpixie on 24 October 2015, 11:27:38 PM
Laser storm is a real old school almost an RPG type game which rewards a gentlemanly approach to having fun whilst working with and around the rather eclectic rules :D Good fun but requires some "applied handwavium" and campaign structure/set up.

You could go "Oldhammer" and break out original Rogue Trader, or Space Hulk or similar...
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Fenton on 24 October 2015, 11:39:05 PM
Been looking at Warpath as well

From a couple of test games it would work well at 15mm or smaller rather than28mm
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: toxicpixie on 25 October 2015, 08:04:31 AM
Damn, I'm thinking Laserburn, not laser storm! I'm assuming you want something more skirmish, more Aliens than Starship Trooper...
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 25 October 2015, 08:29:28 AM
If you are thinking Laserburn, do a search on Beamstrike....a developed version.

IanS
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Sean67 on 25 October 2015, 08:35:44 AM
Neil
If you want one to fit the Aliens a gentleman on here called Nick Harwood did and aliens army for the FWC set of Rules
Look up his blog
You'll see lots of inspiring stuff.
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Sean67 on 25 October 2015, 08:36:42 AM
http://nikharwood.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/september-sale-time-for-another-clear.html
Sean
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: paulr on 25 October 2015, 08:38:57 AM
Quote from: Sean67 on 25 October 2015, 08:35:44 AM
...a gentleman on here called Nick Harwood...

:-/ :-/ :-/ ;D

In fact
Quote from: Sean67 on 25 October 2015, 08:35:44 AM
...a gentleman on here...

:-/ :-/ :-/ ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Sean67 on 25 October 2015, 08:41:10 AM
Go to his wiki page and under FWC
You'll find his Aliens and marines for FWC with army lists.
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: NeilCFord on 25 October 2015, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 25 October 2015, 08:04:31 AM
Damn, I'm thinking Laserburn, not laser storm! I'm assuming you want something more skirmish, more Aliens than Starship Trooper...

I'm not actually certain. I'm quite drawn to the FWC scale of one base = one squad or vehicle. Much as I'm a skirmishes at heart, 4 figsures on a 50 x 20 base are so much quicker to produce.

- Neil.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Sean67 on 25 October 2015, 08:45:55 AM
If you're more into skirmish Micheal at Angel Barracks has a nice set of rules KR16 I beleive but Nick also has some units for them painted up on his main page Junkers are what they are called.
I also placed a breakdown on your other thread about the make up of weapons in a modern British unit.
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: NeilCFord on 25 October 2015, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: Sean67 on 25 October 2015, 08:35:44 AM
Neil
If you want one to fit the Aliens a gentleman on here called Nick Harwood did and aliens army for the FWC set of Rules
Look up his blog
You'll see lots of inspiring stuff.
Regards
Sean


Thanks Sean. I should have thought to look on Nik's site first, I have it bookmarked!

Time to have a word with Leon I think...

- Neil.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: toxicpixie on 25 October 2015, 09:26:11 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 25 October 2015, 08:29:28 AM
If you are thinking Laserburn, do a search on Beamstrike....a developed version.

IanS

Ta Ian, I think I will!
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: NeilCFord on 25 October 2015, 09:29:54 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 25 October 2015, 08:29:28 AM
If you are thinking Laserburn, do a search on Beamstrike....a developed version.

IanS

It would seem all the download links to Beamstrike 404 these days. Time to see if the Wayback Machine has anything...

- Neil.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: NeilCFord on 25 October 2015, 09:31:59 AM
To make Beamstrike less frustrating for others to find:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150107123847/http://www.neilandannettec.myby.co.uk/beamstrike.htm

- Neil.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 25 October 2015, 10:11:36 AM
There is also a yahoo group for it, should finds them there.

IanS
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Fenton on 25 October 2015, 10:39:32 AM
I presume its a sign of the times but that QRS looks scary now
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: toxicpixie on 25 October 2015, 11:08:47 AM
Cheers Neil!

And yes, a twelve page "QRS" is a bit terrifying :D
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: Leon026 on 25 October 2015, 12:04:37 PM
I've always had a soft spot for Epic: Armageddon. Felt those rules were some of the best.
Title: Re: Sci-fi rules
Post by: NeilCFord on 25 October 2015, 04:30:08 PM
Of course, what I should have done was search for "alien" on here, because then I would have found the following:

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12814.0.html

To make matters worse, the new issue of Miniature Wargames is now in the shops, so I'll have to order a back issue.

- Neil.